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evan
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should i get one? i can get it for like $399 shipped w/ the mail in rebate

a tivoHD would run me around $299

the $100 is worth the new remote and display on the front alone (for me at least)



or...

i'm hearing rumors that they're trying to get rid of their stock of series3's because they're making a "premium" tivoHD with all the features of the S3 but on the new tivoHD platform... anyone know if there's any truth to this?

1/8/2008 3:46:09 PM

sheldavie
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You may have already found this, but it's a great comparison:

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"Conclusion
There is no way we can imagine someone buying a Series3 over a TiVo HD if they have to pay MSRP -- $500 is just way to much of a premium. That being said, if we go by the street price it's something to consider. For example, using Amazon as a reference, the Series3 can be had for $349 after rebate compared to $253.88 for theTiVo HD. The Series3 is most definitely a premium unit and the additional features make it a no brainer for only $100 extra -- especially when you consider that TiVo sells it's remote for $50 and the extra 70 extra gigabytes of space you get. However, we wouldn't pay any more than $100 extra for it.

Side note: We believe that TiVo has discontinued production of the Series3 and is simply waiting for them to sell-out before releasing the another version of the TiVo HD with the same premium options as the Series3. Let use know if you have a Series3 with a manufacturer date later than July 2007."


http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/10/23/tivo-hd-vs-series3/

I've been tempted to go this route for a while, but decided I'm going to wait for the SDV adapter before I do it. Otherwise, I'd get the series 3.

[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/8/2008 5:41:21 PM

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will that work w/ directv? i have a tivo for directv and it's beginning to die... I'm not sure if they'll send me another one when it does or make me "upgrade" to their not as nice dvr (my bro has that one, and though older, and less storage we both still prefer my tivo)

1/8/2008 5:55:19 PM

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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070801-updates-show-more-signs-of-new-love-between-tivo-DirecTV.html

i just read that, if they'll do that I'll wait for them... don't have cable out here in randolph county

1/8/2008 6:02:33 PM

evan
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tivo and directv ended their partnership a while ago, and yes, they're slowly rekindling it, but i wouldn't expect much.

if you ditch your current DirecTiVo, you'll get a HR-20 directv DVR which sucks, but hey... it's something... and it can get the new MPEG-4 HD channels.

tivo series3 and tivoHD will NOT work with satellite.

and yeah, i read that engadget article - i can get the S3 for around $100 extra, so i can completely justify it... but they're right on... MSRP for the S3 is $800... wtf?

also the SDV adapter will be made available through your cable company, so you'd be safe getting a tivo now. they are indeed going to make one available - the question is WHEN. luckily not much is SDV (yet...) in cary/raleigh.

1/8/2008 11:08:54 PM

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^ - If you get the series 3 keep us informed on how the install goes. I was curious about what exactly IS on SDV yet in our area and found this.

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"Added on SDV in October:
TBS-HD (282)
Golf/Versus HD (283)
A&E HD (284)

Moved to SDV on November 15th:
ESPN2HD (289)
MTV HD (292)
Universal HD (295)

non SDV (as of late November):
PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX HD (which we can get in the clear or OTA anyway)
Discovery HD Theater (280)
TNT HD (281)
ESPN HD (290)
MOJO HD (291)
HDNET (293)
HDNET Movies (294)"


http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=372255

Unfortunately, as a sports-junkie, the ESPN2HD is the deal breaker for me (until the adapter goes live).

1/9/2008 10:48:24 AM

evan
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okay so best buy had one for $699... open box... i talked the manager down to $599

AND THEN FOUND OUT THEY DIDNT HAVE THE BOX OR REMOTE



oh well

i think amazon still has a few in stock

1/10/2008 7:47:43 PM

evan
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yay

Quote :
" #34540

TiVo Series3 HD DVR
Digital Media Recorder
Availability: In Stock
Fulfilled by OneCall.

$579.99



$579.99
Subtotal: $579.99
(Estimated Delivery by Wed. Jan. 16 2008) 3-day FedEx Delivery: $12.92
(If shipping to ID, WA, or WV) Tax: $0.00

Order Total:
$592.91
"

1/10/2008 8:16:47 PM

joe17669
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evan you sure do spend a lot of money

1/10/2008 8:34:27 PM

evan
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naaaaah

there's a $200 rebate on it

bringing it down to $379

1/10/2008 8:55:10 PM

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I just got the Tivo HD and plan to get a 500 gig hard drive for it eventually but I don't see the big deal with the series 3 over the HD except for more hard drive space. I got a lifetime subscription too so i plan to keep this box for a while.

1/12/2008 9:24:05 AM

evan
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series3 = better remote and OLED display on the front
plus it's THX certified

1/12/2008 12:48:11 PM

evan
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GUESS WHAT CAME YESTERDAY!!!!!!!111!!!!!11









1/16/2008 10:47:43 AM

Grandmaster
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will tivo work with suddenlink?

the SA 8300HD kind of sucks balls

1/16/2008 10:52:33 AM

GraniteBalls
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that's a mighty old dell over there.



what do you use it for?

1/16/2008 10:53:58 AM

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does this thing have the horsepower to stream h264 from your desktop? I'd buy one and pay for lifetime service if it could and I could update the codecs

1/16/2008 11:51:54 AM

evan
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^^tis my router/wireless AP

^it has the horsepower, but you can't natively edit the codecs, and it won't stream, only download from desktops

1/16/2008 11:58:26 AM

GraniteBalls
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you should mod that bitch to high hell



or at least paint it black and/or hide it.

1/16/2008 12:08:29 PM

evan
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yeah, i need to stick it in a new case

i have a small shuttle box i could have used but it only has 1 pci slot and i have 3 PCI NICs and a PCI wifi card

it was hidden, i just didn't have another place to put it

1/16/2008 12:16:22 PM

GraniteBalls
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where are the pictures of this "home theater thing" you speak of?

1/16/2008 12:17:56 PM

smoothcrim
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ah ok, I was almost having buyers remorse about buying this apple tv to hack. I'll probably buy a tivo hd or series3 eventually, especially if the esata works as easily as it does on the SA8300HD

1/16/2008 12:23:09 PM

GraniteBalls
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im thinking about a tivo



my porn would look much better on the TV.

1/16/2008 12:24:18 PM

evan
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esata is a breeze

power down box, unplug it, plug in esata drive, plug tivo in, hold down pause button, until the tivo logo comes up, hit 62 on the remote, wait a few minutes, voila

"your second drive is now ready for use."

1/16/2008 12:24:36 PM

evan
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if you get a tivo

plz put my email in the box where it asks for the person that referred you

e.k@ncsu.edu

1/16/2008 12:25:14 PM

GraniteBalls
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how's the UI in contrast to a standard suddenlink DVR?

1/16/2008 12:27:26 PM

evan
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rofllllll

there's no comparison

tivo is the end all be all of DVR UIs

i've had a tivo in some shape or form (series1/2/3) for almost 6 years now if that tells you anything

i had a SA8300 dvr for all of a week before i said "fuck that" and went back to tivo

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=tivo+interface&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

1/16/2008 12:30:25 PM

GraniteBalls
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so you buy the box and pay $15 to tivo

or you lease the box and pay $20 to suddenlink




am i getting this right?

1/16/2008 12:31:31 PM

evan
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i didn't think suddenlink had tivo boxes

but tivo service is $12.95/month

you buy the box, you own it, you just have to pay for service

1/16/2008 12:35:22 PM

GraniteBalls
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yeah, i meant suddenlink's DVR box


i'll be looking into this.


any deals out there?

1/16/2008 12:38:14 PM

evan
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the series3 is $799 MSRP

you can find one for around $579 shipped, and if you order before jan. 26th, there's a $200 rebate, bringing the price to $379, which is a damn good deal

you can get a tivoHD for around $269

if you don't care about HD or digital via cablecards, you can get a series2 dual tuner for next to nothing, even free if you time it right.

1/16/2008 12:39:56 PM

GraniteBalls
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i already have the suddenlink DVR



i love it



but i dont know about the grass on the other side.

1/16/2008 12:43:58 PM

quagmire02
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$380 at buy.com with google discount:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203305032

1/16/2008 2:54:12 PM

Grandmaster
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is the 8300HD the only one suddenlink offers?

btw what do you pay per month granite if you don't mind my asking, i think our shit is 120ish for HD/DVR/HBO/8mbit

So you buy a tivo HD and get a cable card for it via your provider to bypass the shit receivers?

[Edited on January 16, 2008 at 8:21 PM. Reason : .]

1/16/2008 8:19:53 PM

aaronburro
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the only thing I don't like about the Series3 boxes is that they take FOREVER to boot. If you have trouble getting the CableCARD stuff to work, you are going to hate your life whenever you reboot the thing. You would think that they could make the thing take less than 15 minutes to load up.

1/16/2008 11:04:51 PM

sheldavie
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Congrats Evan - are you going the cablecard route or no?

1/17/2008 9:42:50 AM

GraniteBalls
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Quote :
"i think our shit is 120ish for HD/DVR/HBO/8mbit
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sounds about right, although just a bit high.


i don't have HBO, though.

1/17/2008 10:50:09 AM

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