terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously, FUCK YOU Mexico.
I was all about some illegal immigration, and I always thought the YOU TOOK OUR JOBS complaints were stupid.
But I'm with Lou Dobbs now
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8410111/
3/6/2008 10:37:01 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Dude that's like 2 years old. 3/6/2008 10:38:33 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but I just saw it 3/6/2008 10:41:53 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, but I just saw it and needed a new cause" |
[Edited on March 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : filled in the blank]3/6/2008 10:43:58 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh snap 3/6/2008 10:44:59 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^^ OK, I'll be sure to forward you any articles I see about republicans against gay marriage 3/6/2008 10:46:45 AM |
Socks`` All American 11792 Posts user info edit post |
3/6/2008 11:00:26 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
if mexicans didnt hate black people so much they'd vote for obama...according to my mexican sources they find blacks lazy and ignorant 3/6/2008 11:01:40 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I saw a reference to this stamp in a blog on why mexicans aren't voting for Obama 3/6/2008 11:23:27 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Obama ain't lazy. Obama's half white! 3/6/2008 12:14:59 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I'm with Lou Dobbs now" |
That's a good sign that you're an idiot3/6/2008 12:31:33 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
there was actually a survey in durham taken last year some time. hispanics did a vote and an overwhelming percentage of them said they believe blacks are lazy. 3/6/2008 12:35:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
clinton(women/lations)/obama(men/smart people/blacks) 08! 3/6/2008 12:43:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
you misspelled socialists3/6/2008 12:52:08 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/2004-02-12-notebook-mexicans-crowd_x.htm'
That's when I said fuck you to mexico.
Quote : | "GUADALAJARA, Mexico — The jeers from the crowd of 60,000 and the chants of "Osama, Osama, Osama" quieted Tuesday night when Mexico took control of the Olympic qualifying game against the USA at Estadio Jalisco. The 4-0 victory eliminated the U.S. under-23 men's soccer team from the Athens Games this summer." |
Bitches chanting osama.... yeah if osama ever hit them... they'd be just like the FRENCH... "OH SORRY GRINGO! YOU KNOW WE JUST KEEEDIN!"3/6/2008 12:56:57 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's a good sign that you're an idiot" |
touche3/6/2008 1:29:03 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080306/pl_bloomberg/ar7wd5nircc;_ylt=AunM2n9y1r9s9Hc2CbSBETes0NUE
Quote : | "Race played a significant factor in Ohio,'' said Cuyahoga County Commissioner Timothy Hagan, who supported Obama. The state's white voters aren't ``bigots, but the image they see every day of black America is drugs, crime, guns and violence.''" |
haha3/6/2008 2:06:00 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Longtime prejudices, not economic rivalry, fuel tensions. By Tanya K. Hernandez, Tanya K. Hernandez is a professor of law at Rutgers University Law School. January 7, 2007
THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend's black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.
Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods. Just last August, federal prosecutors convicted four Latino gang members of engaging in a six-year conspiracy to assault and murder African Americans in Highland Park. During the trial, prosecutors demonstrated that African American residents (with no gang ties at all) were being terrorized in an effort to force them out of a neighborhood now perceived as Latino.
For example, one African American resident was murdered by Latino gang members as he looked for a parking space near his Highland Park home. In another case, a woman was knocked off her bicycle and her husband was threatened with a box cutter by one of the defendants, who said, "You niggers have been here long enough."
At first blush, it may be mystifying why such animosity exists between two ethnic groups that share so many of the same socioeconomic deprivations. Over the years, the hostility has been explained as a natural reaction to competition for blue-collar jobs in a tight labor market, or as the result of turf battles and cultural disputes in changing neighborhoods. Others have suggested that perhaps Latinos have simply been adept at learning the U.S. lesson of anti-black racism, or that perhaps black Americans are resentful at having the benefits of the civil rights movement extended to Latinos.
Although there may be a degree of truth to some or all of these explanations, they are insufficient to explain the extremity of the ethnic violence.
Over the years, there's also been a tendency on the part of observers to blame the conflict more on African Americans (who are often portrayed as the aggressors) than on Latinos. But although it's certainly true that there's plenty of blame to go around, it's important not to ignore the effect of Latino culture and history in fueling the rift.
The fact is that racism — and anti-black racism in particular — is a pervasive and historically entrenched reality of life in Latin America and the Caribbean. More than 90% of the approximately 10 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas were taken to Latin America and the Caribbean (by the French, Spanish and British, primarily), whereas only 4.6% were brought to the United States. By 1793, colonial Mexico had a population of 370,000 Africans (and descendants of Africans) — the largest concentration in all of Spanish America.
The legacy of the slave period in Latin America and the Caribbean is similar to that in the United States: Having lighter skin and European features increases the chances of socioeconomic opportunity, while having darker skin and African features severely limits social mobility.
White supremacy is deeply ingrained in Latin America and continues into the present. In Mexico, for instance, citizens of African descent (who are estimated to make up 1% of the population) report that they regularly experience racial harassment at the hands of local and state police, according to recent studies by Antonieta Gimeno, then of Mount Holyoke College, and Sagrario Cruz-Carretero of the University of Veracruz.
Mexican public discourse reflects the hostility toward blackness; consider such common phrases as "getting black" to denote getting angry, and "a supper of blacks" to describe a riotous gathering of people. Similarly, the word "black" is often used to mean "ugly." It is not surprising that Mexicans who have been surveyed indicate a disinclination to marry darker-skinned partners, as reported in a 2001 study by Bobby Vaughn, an anthropology professor at Notre Dame de Namur University.
Anti-black sentiment also manifests itself in Mexican politics. During the 2001 elections, for instance, Lazaro Cardenas, a candidate for governor of the state of Michoacan, is believed to have lost substantial support among voters for having an Afro Cuban wife. Even though Cardenas had great name recognition (as the grandson of Mexico's most popular president), he only won by 5 percentage points — largely because of the anti-black platform of his opponent, Alfredo Anaya, who said that "there is a great feeling that we want to be governed by our own race, by our own people."
Given this, it should not be surprising that migrants from Mexico and other areas of Latin America and the Caribbean arrive in the U.S. carrying the baggage of racism. Nor that this facet of Latino culture is in turn transmitted, to some degree, to younger generations along with all other manifestations of the culture.
The sociological concept of "social distance" measures the unease one ethnic or racial group has for interacting with another. Social science studies of Latino racial attitudes often indicate a preference for maintaining social distance from African Americans. And although the social distance level is largest for recent immigrants, more established communities of Latinos in the United States also show a marked social distance from African Americans.
For instance, in University of Houston sociologist Tatcho Mindiola's 2002 survey of 600 Latinos in Houston (two-thirds of whom were Mexican, the remainder Salvadoran and Colombian) and 600 African Americans, the African Americans had substantially more positive views of Latinos than Latinos had of African Americans. Although a slim majority of the U.S.-born Latinos used positive identifiers when describing African Americans, only a minority of the foreign-born Latinos did so. One typical foreign-born Latino respondent stated: "I just don't trust them…. The men, especially, all use drugs, and they all carry guns."
This same study found that 46% of Latino immigrants who lived in residential neighborhoods with African Americans reported almost no interaction with them.
The social distance of Latinos from African Americans is consistently reflected in Latino responses to survey questions. In a 2000 study of residential segregation, Camille Zubrinsky Charles, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, found that Latinos were more likely to reject African Americans as neighbors than they were to reject members of other racial groups. In addition, in the 1999-2000 Lilly Survey of American Attitudes and Friendships, Latinos identified African Americans as their least desirable marriage partners, whereas African Americans proved to be more accepting of intermarriage with Latinos.
Ironically, African Americans, who are often depicted as being averse to coalition-building with Latinos, have repeatedly demonstrated in their survey responses that they feel less hostility toward Latinos than Latinos feel toward them.
Although some commentators have attributed the Latino hostility to African Americans to the stress of competition in the job market, a 1996 sociological study of racial group competition suggests otherwise. In a study of 477 Latinos from the 1992 Los Angeles County Social Survey, professors Lawrence Bobo, then of Harvard, and Vincent Hutchings of the University of Michigan found that underlying prejudices and existing animosities contribute to the perception that African Americans pose an economic threat — not the other way around.
It is certainly true that the acrimony between African Americans and Latinos cannot be resolved until both sides address their own unconscious biases about one another. But it would be a mistake to ignore the Latino side of the equation as some observers have done — particularly now, when the recent violence in Los Angeles has involved Latinos targeting peaceful African American citizens.
This conflict cannot be sloughed off as simply another generation of ethnic group competition in the United States (like the familiar rivalries between Irish, Italians and Jews in the early part of the last century). Rather, as the violence grows, the "diasporic" origins of the anti-black sentiment — the entrenched anti-black prejudice among Latinos that exists not just in the United States but across the Americas — will need to be directly confronted." |
Just thought it would be an interesting read.3/6/2008 3:02:28 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, it's a different culture.
Had this for breakfast quite often (different latin american country).
and that was the conservative image. I can't find the funny one.
[Edited on March 6, 2008 at 4:19 PM. Reason : -] 3/6/2008 4:18:54 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Immortal Technique raps often about how racist lots of his culture is
(Crackas on Univision) 3/6/2008 4:21:41 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
wow.
i didnt realize it was that bad, with the latinos and the blacks.
it is interesting tho, to watch Univision... all their tv personalities and stars look like Spaniards ... basically they all look pretty much white. hardly any of them look like an average mexican I know or encounter on a daily basis. 3/6/2008 5:48:34 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States." |
-Vincente Fox3/6/2008 5:58:36 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
i think that's a fairly true statement. broadly speaking. 3/7/2008 4:17:08 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hip hop culture? 3/7/2008 4:18:01 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Mexican slaves 3/7/2008 4:18:49 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
no its just an economic fact that immigrants will take the jobs the natives don't (or won't) do. its been like that throughout human history.
my experience with Mexicans in the construction industry is that they are for the most part eager and hard working, will take the least-glamorous jobs, work long hours, live frugally and in cramped conditions, and send every bit of extra money they make back to their family across the border.
you've got to respect that. 3/7/2008 4:24:25 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
its all the legal immigrants taking my jobs. One of my ECE classes is a hybrid grad level class and i am the white minority. Perhaps i should get an affirmitive action scholarship for white people to attend grad school 3/7/2008 4:26:31 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my experience with Mexicans in the construction industry is that they are for the most part eager and hard working, will take the least-glamorous jobs, work long hours, live frugally and in cramped conditions, and send every bit of extra money they make back to their family across the border.
you've got to respect that." |
If you're a commie loving terrorist.3/7/2008 4:37:07 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "One typical foreign-born Latino respondent stated: "I just don't trust them…. The men, especially, all use drugs, and they all carry guns." " |
This could also be said of Latino men, perhaps to a lesser degree, but still.
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This makes me think of what will happen in 2050 when minorities are projected to make 50% of the US population.
Will the huge numbers of blacks and Latinos (80-100 million blacks and 120-150 million Latinos) fight it out on the streets of the US in order to subjugate each other?
That will be terrifying.3/7/2008 5:47:00 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i prefer "terrorist loving commie"
^^^ yeah, HUR, us white folks are *so* downtrodden and oppressed. its a crying shame, really. too bad we're basically all stupid, fat, and lazy, and jus wannan play vidya games. otherwise, maybe some white kids could get accepted into ECE.
[Edited on March 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM. Reason : ] 3/7/2008 5:51:11 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my experience with Mexicans in the construction industry is that they are for the most part eager and hard working, will take the least-glamorous jobs, work long hours, live frugally and in cramped conditions, and send every bit of extra money they make back to their family across the border.
you've got to respect that. " |
Joe, that as basically been my experiences as well. As ive stated before, the migrant workers I see are some of my very best, appreciative patients.3/7/2008 6:37:35 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
So I guess we're sharing racial humor here.
I have a Chinese friend who told me the most popular brand of toothpaste in China is called "black person toothpaste". On the tube there is a picture of a very black faced dude with brilliant white teeth.
I think you can find it at Grand Asian Market if you look for it. Of course they have not translated the label correctly, go figure. 3/7/2008 8:37:16 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Will the huge numbers of blacks and Latinos (80-100 million blacks and 120-150 million Latinos) fight it out on the streets of the US in order to subjugate each other?" |
Unlikely. Yes, racism remains a problem in Latin America, as in the rest of the world. Many Latinos struggle against it daily. I fail to see how vilifying the entire culture improves the situation.3/7/2008 11:23:24 PM |
Scary Larry Suspended 644 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahaha
niggers 3/8/2008 9:45:31 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have a Chinese friend who told me the most popular brand of toothpaste in China is called "black person toothpaste"." |
Is it gold colored spray-paint?3/8/2008 11:11:21 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Will the huge numbers of blacks and Latinos (80-100 million blacks and 120-150 million Latinos) fight it out on the streets of the US in order to subjugate each other?
That will be terrifying." |
Where are all the black people coming from? Last time I checked (which admittedly was maybe a year ago), the black population in the US was still dropping.
Also, I don't think that latinos are particularly more racist towards the black as that article implies, because there could be other factors that account for the results.3/8/2008 2:51:07 PM |
wolfpack914 All American 1644 Posts user info edit post |
cost of illegal immigration > cost of iraq war 3/8/2008 4:49:31 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
don't most mexicans have some african ancestry anyways?
I mean a huge percentage of slaves basically disapeared in to the general population 3/8/2008 6:10:31 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where are all the black people coming from?" |
Vaginas.3/8/2008 6:29:58 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cost of illegal immigration > cost of iraq war" |
Too bad dead people in Iraq can't pick our crops.3/8/2008 10:28:02 PM |