wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
This is what the left wing media and the liberals think of our troops and their families. They should be ashamed. Copy the link and it will take you right to the picture.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nico-pitney/a-mosaic-4000-americans_b_93044.html 3/25/2008 4:56:11 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is what the left wing media and the liberalsone person with too much time and an internet connection think of our troops and their families. They should be ashamed. Copy the link and it will take you right to the picture." |
3/25/2008 4:58:04 PM |
wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
Hey IMStoned420 you seem to be on the internet alot too, what is your excuse or your job that allows you to be on this much 3/25/2008 5:01:55 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I'm in college. What's your excuse 23 year old dude with nothing better to do? 3/25/2008 5:02:29 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
Are you kidding me? Thats fucking DISGUSTING and an OUTRAGE.
Those who politicize our lost service men and women are TREASONOUS and their actions are INEXCUSABLE.
oh wolfpack72, you won't find much sympathy here. The soapbox is full of people who would sooner dance on the grave of our soldiers than salute the flag.
see evidence here
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=519784
[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM. Reason : FUCK HUFFINGTON POST FOR THIS OUTRAGE] 3/25/2008 5:05:28 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^OH SHIT.
ALL POLITICIANS ARE SCREWED. 3/25/2008 5:06:33 PM |
wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
Im in college too, the only difference is that I'm from what you call the real world and your still in daddy and mommies world and in fantasy world 3/25/2008 5:07:21 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
So the liberal outrage is manifested by wanting to get the soldiers out of the war while the the outrage displayed by the right is to leave them there for 100 years if need be. Yeah... that makes total sense.
Dude, I haven't lived in mommy and daddy's fantasy world since 7th grade but yeah keep going where you're with that...
[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM. Reason : ] 3/25/2008 5:08:37 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The soapbox is full of people who would sooner dance on the grave of our soldiers than salute the flag." |
3/25/2008 5:16:18 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
MEGADITTOS 3/25/2008 5:20:07 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I fail to see how what anyone who would be considered "liberal" here has said could be implied that they would "sooner dance on the grave of our soldiers than salute the flag." That's a terribly ignorant accusation. 3/25/2008 5:20:46 PM |
wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
so IMStoned420 does that mean your mom and dad abandoned you at 7th grade, probably cause they realized how far left and out of touch with the real world you were 3/25/2008 5:40:01 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
I strongly disagree with this war...
and I also think this "art" is disgusting. 3/25/2008 5:53:19 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this "art" is disgusting." |
3/25/2008 5:55:22 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Now lock this stupid fucking thread.
3/25/2008 6:03:10 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
did you idiots forget that it was George Bush who took us into this war and led these soldiers to their deaths? You do realize that almost all of these people would still be alive today if it wasn't for Bush needlessly invading Iraq, right? 3/25/2008 6:10:03 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
here: look at portions of the picture only. forget about the "art" or whatever the mosaic is supposed to be. Look at the faces of these kids, most of them younger than most of us, who died because of lies and deceptions. What positive has come from their deaths?
3/25/2008 6:15:48 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The soapbox is full of people who would sooner dance on the grave of our soldiers than salute the flag." |
3/25/2008 6:27:24 PM |
johnny57 All American 624 Posts user info edit post |
^ The smart ones realize both actions are rather pointless at the end of the day. 3/25/2008 6:29:29 PM |
wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
getting rid of a dictator that killed hundreds of thousands close to millions of his own people, a man that invaded Kuwait, wanted to destroy our ally Israel, providing democracy and freedom to a whole country...is that not enough or do you want more. You would rather have obama as president who wants to go to countries like Iran who is providing weapons that are killing our troops and give them hugs and talk to them and ask them nicely to stop their hateful regime. And give hugs to Syria who is funding Hezbollah to attack Israel with rockets and providing weapons to terrorists in Iraq. 3/25/2008 6:36:17 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
i hate to point this out but if you start from the bottom left corner, go 3 right, and 7 up you'll see the same guy's picture posted three times in a row 3/25/2008 6:45:39 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
for a second it thought it was all white people who died then i realised they put the blacks in bush's hair, this mosaic is just not right 3/25/2008 6:47:41 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ oh sure. i love it when you war hawks all of a sudden turn into humanitarians - "OH MY GOD, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" Do you remember why we supposedly went into this war? Was it because Saddam was a brutal dictator who killed his own people? Umm, no.... he has been a brutal dictator for 40 years and we never went after him, instead often allying with him, then after Iraq War I our infinitely wise Secretary of Defense correctly reasoned that entering Baghdad and removing Saddam would turn Iraq into a quagmire (what what that guys name.....? something Cheney, perhaps?). Is that why we went in? No - we went in on the trumped up premise that Saddam posed a clear and present danger to us - the US. But guess what - he didn't.
Therefore, the entire rational and justification for the war was flushed down the drain, so you had to think of another reason - oh right, we've always wanted to save the people of Iraq! That's why we went in to begin with, don't you remember? They were suffering so badly and it just breaks my little heart that these Muslims I've never met are living in a dictator for the past 40 years and we've never done anything about it except sell the dictator weapons and kick him out of a different country, and forget that there are dozens of other countries in the world who have dictators actively killing their own people (which it's not clear that Saddam has done in many years, at least since we left the Kurds fending for themselves after the first war) - we have to act now!! We'll be greeted at liberators! We'll be gone in 6 weeks, 6 months at most! Iraq will return to the Garden of Eden after we leave and everybody will love each other again!
Fine - let's buy that. It's worth it because we "liberated" a country, and the people are now "free". We lost 4000 and counting Americans in doing so, and Americans will be paying out the ass for it for generations to come. Let's say it was all worth it. Shouldn't you be clamoring to go into Sudan now? And North Korea? What about Saudi Arabia and China, who despite being some of our best trading partners are some of the most repressive countries in the world? Do you want to just want to invade all these countries, accept 5000 dead Americans and 100,000 wounded and $3-5 trillion each on credit as the cost of liberation, and call it a day? Or don't you care about those people too?
[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM. Reason : .] 3/25/2008 6:57:58 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
BRING 'EM ON 3/25/2008 7:15:29 PM |
wolfpack72 Starting Lineup 53 Posts user info edit post |
we should do something about those countries...your letting your wallet speak with comments like they are big trading partners so we shouldn't do anything rather than speaking with your heart and doing what is right and stopping these communist red countries from oppressing their people and the world,they only reason China is produces so much is cause they pay their people nothing and they have no rights. I'm not saying the GOP is perfect but they would do a hell of alot more than the democratic party with making the world a better place 3/25/2008 7:25:05 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
agentlion, i love you [no homo]
you show these hypocritical lying bleeding-heart rightwingnuts their own damned lies and after-the-fact feigned sympathy.
make no mistake: NONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF THE WAR gave a DAMN about any Iraqi being oppressed under Saddam, nor do they give a DAMN about the 100,000-500,000 Iraqis killed in this war, who would be alive now were it not for the war of aggression. 3/25/2008 7:45:11 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wanted to destroy our ally Israel, providing democracy and freedom to a whole country" |
i think we could add Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebannon, Oman, Iran, Egypt, etc to this list as well
most of those would also fit into the human rights aggressions also. Honestly i don't give a fuck if iraqi's are being oppressed by Saddam. That is Iraq's problem. When we decided that we were tired of England's bullshit in the 1770's we took care of our own deal. We didn't sit around in oppression hoping one day Spain would invade and liberate us from the tea taxes!!
[Edited on March 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM. Reason : l]3/25/2008 8:02:45 PM |
Redstains441 Veteran 180 Posts user info edit post |
"Honestly i don't give a fuck if iraqi's are being oppressed by Saddam. That is Iraq's problem. When we decided that we were tired of England's bullshit in the 1770's we took care of our own deal. We didn't sit around in oppression hoping one day Spain would invade and liberate us from the tea taxes!!"
Well we did have some help from France. But yes, American is unique. If Spain did show up to help overthrow British rule in America, you are telling me we would have turned them back? 3/25/2008 9:45:46 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Well France didn't invade the US to liberate americans. they just kinda showed up mid-revolution providing support. Kind of like US showing up to help S. Korea repel N.Korean invaders. Needless to say if Spain rolled up through Georgia and was occupying our cities in the good fight to liberate us from england you damn well bet we'd be pissed; especially when the english had been gone for 4.5 years!!! 3/25/2008 11:35:42 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did you idiots forget that it was George Bush who took us into this war and led these soldiers to their deaths?
Look at the faces of these kids, most of them younger than most of us, who died because of lies and deceptions. " |
This is a common point of view among the fringe-left that bothers me, and its presumptuous and disrespectful to make the soldiers out like you are.
You speak of the soldiers like theyre all mindless slaves sent into battle against their will.
Theyre all people who volunteered to join the military. If you asked them whether they want to be in Iraq, most of them say they do. Some of them even joined the military to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. They enjoy their job. They are proud of what they do.
They are not the victims they are made out to be by you and this despicable image.3/26/2008 1:38:55 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
^ What?
People volunteer for the service to defend the United States and the Constitution.
Please explain how any of those boys in agentlion's picture died defending either.
[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 2:03 AM. Reason : defense, offense, whatever. how many hooksaw aliases do we need?] 3/26/2008 2:01:30 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ STFU, you idiot.
Quote : | "jesus christ
hooksaw is not an alias" |
marko
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=490935&page=4
I have ONE username--hooksaw--and no others. Know it, learn it, live it.
Concerning the topic, yes, the image is outrageous. And its creators should be ashamed of themselves--except they obviously have no shame.3/26/2008 4:20:10 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What positive has come from their deaths?" |
A stable country3/26/2008 7:27:25 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
.... what country are you talking about? 3/26/2008 7:38:32 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
the US and Israel
the only 2 that matter*
*geopolitically... because lets face it, ireland > all. 3/26/2008 7:43:19 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
ok, say he was talking about US and Israel (i don't think he was), but really - is the US better off for this war? are we "more stable"? Are we safer or able to better defend ourselves because of this? 3/26/2008 7:55:07 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
sure we are.
i have nothing that leads me to believe otherwise. 3/26/2008 8:11:57 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Theyre all people who volunteered to join the military." |
Seriously, can we stop using that word? We spent what, $500 billion last year on military spending? Raise your hand if you're in the military and aren't being paid for your services.
No one?
Ok, you're not a volunteer.
[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 8:31 AM. Reason : one of these days, i'll learn]3/26/2008 8:28:49 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
uhhh
There is no draft fyi. 3/26/2008 8:30:42 AM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ok, you're not a volunteer." |
If you guys are so anal about it, then let's just call them federal employees instead volunteers. But heck, they could have turned down the offer. Their deaths are just part of the job. I'm sure they read the job description... right?
Not trying to be insensitive, but I believe they did the right thing. Whether the war was justified or not doesn't matter. No need to make a mockery of them by making a mosiac of Bush/Cheney. I think if I was a father to one of these guys, I wouldn't appreciate my son's face being turned into a political statement.
[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 8:40 AM. Reason : insensitivity]3/26/2008 8:35:43 AM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
of course they did. they are trained to kill and know the hazards of collecting their paychecks. I dont know one soldier who doesnt. 3/26/2008 8:37:57 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sure we are.
i have nothing that leads me to believe otherwise." |
you see no evidence to the contrary, so you assume the claim (that we're better off, or safer) is true? WTF kind of logic is that?
If the claim is that we're better off because of this war, then it is up to you to provide evidence of such. It's not rational thinking to assume we're better off simply because you see no reason that we're not.3/26/2008 8:49:31 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I am going to assume we are. And the reasoning behind it is that it makes me feel better, therefor I cant be wrong. 3/26/2008 9:00:34 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK BUSH WOW HE IS SO DUMB WITH HIS UNJUST WAR BASED ON LIES
LETS DISRESPECT THOUSANDS OF DEAD AMERICAN HEROES SO WE CAN MAKE FUN OF BUSH SOME MORE] 3/26/2008 9:03:54 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
how many of you know someone who died in Iraq. i want to see a raising of hands. 3/26/2008 9:43:02 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
*raise* 3/26/2008 9:48:09 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i know somebody who died in iraq, and i also know people who served in afghanistan and iraq and made it home safely
the huffington post probably jerks off to dead US soldiers though 3/26/2008 9:50:09 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I'm willing to bet these fuckstains who take offense to that image have not had a single friend die in Iraq. I find it extremely egregious for them to criticize someone like me, who is adamantly opposed to this war; because I don't "support the troops." Some of those faces in that picture are friends of mine. So they need to quit taking offense on behalf of my friends and their families and their friends. They can come back to me when they've had friends and family die in Iraq and tell me exactly why I'm less of an American because I oppose this nonsense. 3/26/2008 9:55:59 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
only people who personally know someone that died in iraq can take offense to that pathetic picture...gotcha 3/26/2008 9:59:10 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Only whiny bitches can take offense to it. 3/26/2008 9:59:41 AM |