nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Predict when this is going to happen and why if you feel like it?
~40 years (about 1 1/2 generations) because of massive backlash against media Indecency 4/28/2008 9:24:02 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
wut? 4/28/2008 11:25:21 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly everything does go in cycles. But it is late for me and I cannot recall where we currently are on the cycle... Is society today conservative or liberal when compared to earlier cycle periods? 4/28/2008 11:29:23 PM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
personally, I'm surprised the ftc or fcc hasn't mandated that government spyware be installed on every computer built
OR HAVE THEY??
^ that post makes me picture a wheel, half blue, half red, rolling towards hell
"cycle", my ass!
the two party system is simply a one-party system in democratic [sheep's] clothing
sorry to piss on anyone's cake, but america has become the bad guy,
and the destruction of the 2-party system and a return to constitutionalism, I fear, is our ONLY HOPE 4/28/2008 11:37:43 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
Soon. 4/29/2008 3:20:54 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Most nations have already done it to a certain extent (from the Great Firewall of China to banning Nazi memorabilia in France), so it's going to happen here sooner or later as we try to enforce laws, whether justified (like kiddie porn) or dangerous (Patriot Act).
I don't see why people should be so shocked by this. Those who thought that the Internet would be free and wide frontier were probably a bit naive. The best analogy would be the Wild West, where it was near anarchy initially with great potential and immense freedom, but as more people moved in, order was enforced and the frontier was tamed. 4/29/2008 3:40:45 PM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
^ the difference is, the "wild west" was an actual geographical location, in real life
that obviously bordered other regions, interacted with them, and had to coexist
the internet creates the possibility of "regions" that don't have to border other (safe, family-friendly) regions
there's really no legitimate excuse to impose the massive regulations, censorships, and prohibitions that will, sadly, likely happen
[/keep danger safe and legal] 4/29/2008 4:01:25 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Main_Page
show this to a congressman and SEE WHAT HAPPENS 4/29/2008 4:03:57 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Uh... 15+ years ago? 4/29/2008 4:18:15 PM |
Honkeyball All American 1684 Posts user info edit post |
8-12 years... with the expectation that it's fueled by the next large-scale terrorist attack in the U.S. (Which, I'm also betting will be a domestic group, not foreign.)
The level of intervention is debatable, but I'd imagine the USGov would be looking for something flexible and easily scalable. Something like a remotely controlled v-chip. 4/29/2008 4:33:33 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
40 years? Will the internet even be relevant by then? 4/29/2008 6:14:08 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^ what?
what do you expect by then, massive mindmeld? 4/29/2008 6:20:06 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
What did people in 1967 expect out of today? Massive mindmelds? 4/29/2008 6:24:16 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
^ Maybe. Computer-brain brain interfaces will be mainstream. The technology already exists. The information networks of 2048 will make our current internet look like a cave painting. 4/29/2008 6:26:26 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
you're insane if you actually believe any of that 4/29/2008 6:34:18 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Haha. I wonder what someone from 1968 would say about our day if given a peek at today's technology?
Nah, they'd probably just staple some stupid index card to their local street corner bulletin board asking people when they thought the government would start restricting what could and couldn't be said in "talkies".
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM. Reason : -] 4/29/2008 6:37:54 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Then I'm insane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-computer_interface
As I said, the technology exists. We just need to refine it. As for my other point, consider the state of information technology in 1968. We're light-years beyond that. They didn't even have microprocessors. Information technology has improved dramatically even in my short lifetime. Why assume the trend will stop? 4/29/2008 6:39:44 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
oh, I knew about that
make it use TCP/IP an then give me a call
...
and who are you going to do massive trials on?
where are your test subjects? 4/29/2008 6:41:38 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and who are you going to do massive trials on?" |
Uh, humans? The disabled first, obviously. This is already happening. Honestly, what's shocking about a headband laptop that obeys your thoughts? I'd buy one. I can't wait.4/29/2008 6:44:37 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "headband laptop that obeys your thoughts" |
ahahhahahhahah
ok4/29/2008 6:48:21 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
What's the big deal? We already have computers that size. They'll get smaller and smaller. Brain-computer interfaces will improve astronomically. Do you dispute this?
By 2048, the keyboard should be considered an archaic torture device. 4/29/2008 6:55:20 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
we'll see
I wouldn't put money on it 4/29/2008 6:56:05 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
That would be a much smaller change than between now and 1968. While eliminating the keyboard would be sweet, it's no fundamental shift. Nothing like the internet revolution we've all witnessed. 4/29/2008 7:00:00 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and who are you going to do massive trials on? where are your test subjects?" |
Agree with GoldenViper; the physically disabled would probably be one of the first groups to benefit from this technology. Think about it, you develop a robotic prosthetic and tell a disabled vet or accident victim who lost a limb and say, "Hey, interested in trying an experiment where we give you a new robotic limb? We'll pay all expenses..." I'm sure you'd have plenty lining up. Expand to those who lost their sight, then maybe push it to a military user interface for some new weapon system, and we're there.
Hell, Duke University's already got monkeys plugged into robotic arms, and they've picked it up fast. Apparently, they get a kick out of moving the arm around to do all sorts of random stuff.4/29/2008 7:04:06 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Oh I think it can be stopped.
Just like any other government policy... 4/29/2008 7:07:24 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
I think the idea bothers people mainly because it undermines traditional notions about the mind. Folks consider telepathy and the like simply science fiction or magic. While rejecting such fantasies, they ascribe undue power and mystery to the brain. In reality, it's made of elements and atoms like anything else. 4/29/2008 7:11:41 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
My comment: To the thread since [OMF gov't censorhip of it is inevitable]
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 7:13 PM. Reason : ...] 4/29/2008 7:13:17 PM |
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/09/google-censors-block-access-to-counterpunch-and-other-progressive-sites/
Quote : | "Under its new so-called anti-fake-news program, Google algorithms have in the past few months moved socialist, anti-war, and progressive websites from previously prominent positions in Google searches to positions up to 50 search result pages from the first page, essentially removing them from the search results any searcher will see. Counterpunch, World Socialsit Website, Democracy Now, American Civil liberties Union, Wikileaks are just a few of the websites which have experienced severe reductions in their returns from Google searches. World Socialist Website, to cite just one example, has experienced a 67% drop in its returns from Google since the new policy was announced." |
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