nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "GOP strategist Rich Galen also said Tuesday that Obama did the right thing in denouncing the statements. Galen said he would urge Obama to "get on the phone with, of all people, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, to say ... let's let this thing blow over." |
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/obama.wright/index.html
it's subtle, but there are going to do this sort of thing over and over and over again4/29/2008 6:26:47 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
They're trying to win an election? How dare they! 4/29/2008 6:27:38 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
the GOP going to ride that race line as hard as they fucking can
it's a pretty dangerous game they're playing
i'm interested to see how it all turns out 4/29/2008 6:29:05 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Campaigns play up the other side's mistakes all the time. I can think of Sen. Allen and his macaca statement, when Richard Petty bumped a car out on 40 when he was running for Sec. of State...sometimes the best thing you can do is to sit back and allow your opponent to win the race for you. 4/29/2008 6:31:54 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
what mistake did Obama make?
that he was born black? 4/29/2008 6:33:29 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
That his pastor and close confidant of over 20 years is an anti-American rambling nutcase. 4/29/2008 6:34:27 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
so... that's he goes to church? that's his mistake? 4/29/2008 6:35:05 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure americans are not gonna fall for this and still vote for a dem 4/29/2008 6:35:13 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
It's the church he picked to go to. Or are you insinuating that the black church in general is as batshit crazy as Rev. Wright? 4/29/2008 6:36:34 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
besides you're deviating from the original point of the thread, that the GOP is going to connect Obama with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to stir up racist sentiments
they know white people don't trust AL and Jesse, that's why they've been keeping such a low profile lately
but the GOP is going to try as hard as they care to make Obama = Al and Jesse
just watch 4/29/2008 6:36:56 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the GOP going to ride that race line as hard as they fucking can" |
Likewise, the Dems will play the victimization line as hard as they fucking can.
That's a dangerous game as well.
Both strategies will ultimately backfire with a lot of independents and moderates. I honestly think the side that loses the general election will be the one that overplays their hand.
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM. Reason : "racism" meaning victims of racism]4/29/2008 6:36:58 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
i'm not insinuating anything
what are you talking about
should Obama not go to church?
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:37 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 6:37:33 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
honestly i think people are just gonna vote against the war and economy 4/29/2008 6:38:02 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
I don't think the Democrats are going to do any such thing
they want race to be a non-issue
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 6:38:16 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^
yeah, cause that totally what they did last time 4/29/2008 6:39:31 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
I have read numerous editorials lately about the "racist media" and the "racist attacks on Wright / Obama".
This thread is a good example as well, considering that it's pretty clear that you are misinterpreting Galen's comments to paint the GOP as race baiters. 4/29/2008 6:40:42 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
the GOP are and will be race baiters
they are the right wing party, IT'S WHAT THEY DO 4/29/2008 6:43:02 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
Obama should go to church, of course. He should do a better job of picking the church he attends, and one that isn't ran by a raving attention whore of a lunatic.
As for connecting Obama with Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, I think you're reading too much into that. This guy is saying that they are more mainstream, perhaps, and he should use their prowess to distance himself from his pastor. 4/29/2008 6:43:38 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, ok
I would like to introduce you to the last 30 years of race politics 4/29/2008 6:44:25 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
You're crying wolf in order to use race to your advantage, not the other way around. 4/29/2008 6:45:31 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
no, I'm doing no such thing
I just want to point out what Is going to happen up till November
just watch
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 6:46:19 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah, cause that totally what they did last time
" |
ummmm yeah...and...that was fucking 4 years ago, and bush was the incumbant...not to mention the candidates were shitty...yeah this is totally the same situation4/29/2008 6:47:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148384 Posts user info edit post |
two of the people in this thread title are two of the most notorious race baiters in us politics in the last 10 years...neither of them have anything to do with the GOP, to say the least 4/29/2008 6:48:35 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they are
but they are NOT Obama
that's the point 4/29/2008 6:49:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148384 Posts user info edit post |
but you said its what the GOP does and i was pointing out that Al and Jesse are basically the opposite of the GOP 4/29/2008 6:49:54 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the GOP are and will be race baiters
they are the right wing party, IT'S WHAT THEY DO" |
And it will backfire among a lot of independents.
Likewise, the Dems will play the "racism" card in response to any criticism of Obama on race issues. If they overdo it (and they usually do), it will turn off a lot of independents who are tired of hearing the victimization mentality of the left.4/29/2008 6:50:19 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^
I don't give a shit about Al and Jesse
the GOP is going to try to attach then to Obama
to raise up the sentiments that YOU JUST EXPRESSED in voters
that's the entire point
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 6:51:05 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
^^
oh, I know
it's going to be fun 4/29/2008 6:51:45 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
You are misreading the statement by Galen. He is saying that Obama should encourage black leaders not to throw fuel on the fire of this Rev Wright media mess.
It is actually very good advice. 4/29/2008 6:52:18 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not misreading anything
all I see there is blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
you're going to start seeing a lot of that in the future 4/29/2008 6:53:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148384 Posts user info edit post |
so nastoute, you're basically saying the GOP is going to race bait until November...by tying two of the biggest race baiters to Obama 4/29/2008 6:54:31 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
yes 4/29/2008 6:54:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148384 Posts user info edit post |
ingenious 4/29/2008 6:55:47 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all I see there is blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson." |
exactly.
Now go back and re-read the quote. He's saying that the best thing Obama could do would be to make sure that Jesse and Al don't jump into the fray.
Quote : | "the GOP is going to try to attach then to Obama" |
This is true. But it hasn't happened yet.
BTTT this thread when you have a legit example.4/29/2008 6:56:26 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care what the quote says, this thread has nothing to do with it nor does it have anything to do with Reverend whoever.
...
this was said by a GOP strategist
this is a legitimate example
they're probably not going to be overt about it
[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 6:58 PM. Reason : .] 4/29/2008 6:57:16 PM |