you find the link lol

5/4/2008 6:05:07 PM

old fucker probably deserved it

ATTN OLD PEOPLE:
- get out of the far left lanes
- speed up
- be in the proper lane for exiting
- don't switch lanes unless completely necessary
- don't use busy/large highways and interstates
- Anything else you do that annoys me, well, don't do it anymore

5/4/2008 6:09:09 PM

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/16102256/detail.html

5/4/2008 6:12:52 PM

^^ right so she deserved to be beaten to a pulp for driving like one under the speed limit in the FAR RIGHT lane? I didn't read the article cause i had just heard about it but that teen was just psycho

5/4/2008 9:34:14 PM

GSF 4 life

5/4/2008 9:35:05 PM

I'd hit it...with my car

5/4/2008 9:36:17 PM

too much GTA i say

5/4/2008 9:36:33 PM

She's 19? Looks like late 30s to me...gross.

5/4/2008 9:37:44 PM

too much meth i say

5/4/2008 9:38:03 PM

[/quote]"I don't have anything to explain to you," Vasquez said. "I hope she's feeling better tomorrow."[quote]

ROFL

5/4/2008 9:43:49 PM

so what's the point of taking the time to beat someone up

I thought the whole thing about road rage is that people want to get where they're going at a faster rate

5/4/2008 9:45:52 PM

Stupid Bitch

5/4/2008 9:49:19 PM

and this is why i have concealed carry license

5/4/2008 10:00:49 PM

Stupid bitch

5/4/2008 10:01:11 PM

Permanently strip her of her license. She won't have to think twice about controlling her road rage because she'll never be on the road again.

5/4/2008 10:05:44 PM

Ugh.

5/4/2008 10:08:14 PM

too much meth i say

5/4/2008 10:12:30 PM

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"Page's face was bloodied and her leg was broken in 14 places, 6News' Jack Rinehart reported. She will also have to undergo knee replacement."

5/4/2008 10:13:15 PM

i love how the video says she broke her leg in three places, but the article says 14
fuckin drive by media

5/4/2008 10:14:40 PM

^ Either way, what a batch

But yeah, it'd be nice for them to check their facts

[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM. Reason : /]

5/4/2008 10:15:20 PM

It's not like her wagging her tongue at the cameras helps her case...

5/4/2008 10:19:00 PM

three young kids in the 19 y/o's car..

people like this should be beat within an inch of their life

5/4/2008 10:19:52 PM

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"and this is why i have concealed carry license "

so then instead of having a really awful situation, we'd have a really awful situation in which someone was killed.

5/4/2008 10:23:07 PM

Uh, if someone was gonna intentionally pull in front of me only to hit the brakes, pull me out in traffic and beat me, yeah, my next action would not be "killing" when it comes before the judge.

5/4/2008 10:24:16 PM

no, because if some dumb cunt pulls this shit and tries to gank me out of my car and beat the shit out of me I can just save us both a lot of time and put a few in her

not to mention i'd be doing the world a service by cleaning up the gene pool a little

5/4/2008 10:24:53 PM

if someone was gonna intentionally pull in front of me only to hit the brakes, pull me out in traffic and beat me, yeah, my next action would in fact be "killing" when it comes before the judge.

5/4/2008 10:26:10 PM

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"my next action would not be "killing" when it comes before the judge."

this may or may not be true. and yes it still would be killing. someone would be dead. it wouldn't be murder. and it may or may not be self defense. i'm not defending the girl, i'm just saying that i think if everyone had guns a lot more people would end up hurt or dead because of poor/rash decision making. just taking out a gun and firing--especially since it was in busy traffic apparently--could have some bad repercussions. and i mean, people do bad things....AWFUL things. like in this case, but that doesn't mean that the girl is necessarily awful. and even if she is, it doesn't mean she deserves to die. how can we judge that? i just don't think policing ourselves is necessarily the best idea. sounds good on paper i guess, but in practice i think it would cause more harm than good.

5/4/2008 10:42:38 PM

who said anything about killing her.. I'd fucking shoot her in the knee, i hear that shit hurts

5/4/2008 10:51:13 PM

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"how can we judge that? i just don't think policing ourselves is necessarily the best idea. sounds good on paper i guess, but in practice i think it would cause more harm than good."

Because the robots do it so much better? There's only so much one can do to non-violently protect themselves, sometimes it is necessary to dispatch lethal force in dire situations.

This may have been murder, we don't know yet because the old woman hasn't gotten out of the hospital yet. A lot of elderly people die from surgery complications, which may very well be what happens here. Most likely she'll now be confined in the prison of a nursing home until she dies.

5/4/2008 10:54:14 PM

right and i get that the woman may die, i'm not an idiot. i was just saying that policing ourselves probably isn't the best solution to violence...it just seems like it will cause more violence. and i was saying in any given situation, when using a gun for "self defense" it may not always be "self defense" in a court. i just don't think people realize that sometimes.

5/4/2008 10:56:05 PM

Quote :

"i think if everyone had guns a lot more people would end up hurt or dead because of poor/rash decision making. just taking out a gun and firing--especially since it was in busy traffic apparently--could have some bad repercussions. and i mean, people do bad things....AWFUL things. like in this case, but that doesn't mean that the girl is necessarily awful. and even if she is, it doesn't mean she deserves to die. how can we judge that? i just don't think policing ourselves is necessarily the best idea. sounds good on paper i guess, but in practice i think it would cause more harm than good."

i bet you're one of those misguided people who believe that the police are there to protect you personally and that it's ok if someone who is >2x stronger assaults someone weaker.

shame shame. either that or you haven't given much thought to your argument.

if that person who was assaulted died b/c of the attack, that would be ok with you?

also are you aware of the amount of training necessary to carry a concealed weapon on your person in the state of north carolina? lets say you do have to draw your weapon and use it in 'self-defense', the courts will most likely be harsher on you than someone who is able to pick up a (insert random object here) and kill their attacker.

[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 11:04 PM. Reason : k]

5/4/2008 11:00:03 PM

The author here states that in most cases people are charged with homicide in self-defense killings until they are found innocent by a jury. Also stating that if a non-violent means can be used to solve a conflict (a throw down stash for robberies), it should be used as self-defense killings are generally looked upon unfavorably by society and can have serious repercussions in life.

I personally believe that the decision making involved in self-defense are usually fight or flight; fight being premeditated and "rash" and flight being a fast or hazy judgment.

5/4/2008 11:08:07 PM

obviously i would feel bad if that woman died. and i don't think i'm that "misguided" or that my argument is thoughtless. just because i disagree with you doesn't mean that i'm not educated or haven't thought through my position on the issue.

5/4/2008 11:14:52 PM

5/4/2008 11:17:28 PM

i'm telling you

shoot her in the knee

the most they'll get you with is aggravated assualt

5/4/2008 11:18:58 PM

^ NOT true. its all so fact sensitive.

and i agree, shoot her in the knee, whatever, but my point is when you are in the heat of the moment you probably aren't going to sit and calculate your moves rationally. that is why i said what i did in my first post. to ME it just seems that it might make society more dangerous. i realize people disagree and again i'm not an idiot. i don't sit around all day thinking that the police are here to protect me and that we live in a flawless society where everything works perfectly. it was just an opinion.

[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

5/4/2008 11:24:43 PM

Quote :

"obviously i would feel bad if that woman died. and i don't think i'm that "misguided" or that my argument is thoughtless. just because i disagree with you doesn't mean that i'm not educated or haven't thought through my position on the issue."

I don't mean that you haven't thought your position through or that you are misguided. I just believe you haven't thought through what you would do if you were being chased by someone trying to kill you.

You can call me paranoid.

5/4/2008 11:26:37 PM

^ no i no, my post was more in reference to the person that posted above you, not to you directly. i realize that if i was fearing for my life, i would probably wish i had a gun. i just don't want to start making exceptions. like...no we shouldn't have guns UNLESS i'm being chased, then its ok.

5/4/2008 11:32:26 PM

Quote :

"obviously i would feel bad if that woman died."

but you think it's ok that she not be able to protect herself based on your belief that self-policing is a bad idea.

[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM. Reason : seems like someones got a case of the "i haven't thought it throughs".]

5/4/2008 11:32:41 PM

i mean would an 81 year old woman really be in the demographic that would be carrying concealed weapons anyway? it is just sort of a freak accident. its not like she's working in a convenience store where it would be more probable that she would use a gun.

dude...i'm sitting here studying for my criminal law final, i've thought it through. two people can differ in their opinons and both have good reasoning. i understand your side, too...i get it.

[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM. Reason : .]

5/4/2008 11:34:51 PM

Quote :

"shoot her in the knee"

if you shoot somebody it should be shoot to kill, not shoot to injure

if you shoot her in the knee then you are proving to yourself and to the jury that you didnt need to use deadly force to stop her. you just wanted to injure her. you dont point a gun at a target that you dont intend to kill and you sure as hell dont pull the trigger to injure someone.

5/4/2008 11:36:08 PM

Quote :

"and this is why i have concealed carry license "

so then instead of having a really awful situation, we'd have a really awful situation in which someone was killed.

5/4/2008 11:37:53 PM

Time to start sending letters to the prison after her sentence is handed down. I'll be there for the conjugal!

5/4/2008 11:40:31 PM

once again: a crime that deserves the death penalty. if you are going to beat an 81 year old woman to death for "driving too slowly," then you clearly do not deserve to live.

5/4/2008 11:40:51 PM

I hate old people as much as the next guy....BUT

Quote :

"once again: a crime that deserves the death penalty. if you are going to beat an 81 year old woman to death for "driving too slowly," then you clearly do not deserve to live."

5/4/2008 11:50:25 PM

haha yall seriously think this deserves the death penalty? i mean i love the death penalty just as much as the next guy but she didnt even murder anyone...i thought that was kinda the point of the death penalty...i think yall are just trolling or over reacting or something

5/4/2008 11:52:27 PM

Quote :

"i mean would an 81 year old woman really be in the demographic that would be carrying concealed weapons anyway?"

actually they are more likely to carry small purse guns. derringers and smaller revolvers.



[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 12:03 AM. Reason : g]

5/4/2008 11:55:19 PM

No, this bitch has failed at life.

Beating an 81 year old should get you a needle in the arm.

5/4/2008 11:55:36 PM

it's not a matter of the crime here. it's this woman has clearly shown that she does not deserve to live.

5/4/2008 11:55:42 PM

damn yall are some hardcore nigs...i'm guessing you are not christian??

5/4/2008 11:56:53 PM