quickly as we would like to, because we as a species cannot stop killing eachother.


If every mother fucker on earth was left alone to some peace of mind of his own..... we'd be alot further along this evolution thingy.

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Oh shit....I just figured out what I was trying to do earlier. I was able to see this idea on a big scale. Meaning I could think of why we as a people aren't moving forward very quickly. I think the answer is because we stay at war and keep stressing other countries out with the threat of death and destruction. But I couldn't look at that on the personal level. Like....why I as a person might not become successful in life as quickly as I would like to. Maybe its because we hate ourselves.

5/22/2008 10:25:02 PM

You need to read a fuckin book, homey.

5/22/2008 10:32:26 PM

fake.

5/22/2008 10:44:10 PM

^^too busy thinking for myself..... but thank you

[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2008 10:46:48 PM

but seriously

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"You need to read a fuckin book, homey."

5/22/2008 10:47:57 PM

survival of the fittest

5/22/2008 10:52:24 PM

So happy to be free and unprogrammed.

5/22/2008 11:03:50 PM

You've noticed that conflict and competition bring about more new technologies than peace, right?

Regardless, evolution is going to slow down as society advances due to easier survivability of the weak.

I'll go ahead and assume that you made this thread while drunk.

5/22/2008 11:06:51 PM

5/22/2008 11:15:31 PM

chit chat called - it's missing it's thread

5/22/2008 11:16:14 PM

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"Regardless, evolution is going to slow down as society advances due to easier survivability of the weak. "

This is not necessarily the case. "weak" doesn't have an absolute meaning. You have extremely frail people like Stephen Hawking who would have died, but if he can reproduce, his genes, at least for his intelligence, would be passed on.

We are just going to evolve probably to be more intelligent, instead of more aggressive/big/strong. And in any case, considering we don't really compete for resources in a feedback loop, we just expand and use technology to become more efficient, the selective pressures that "survival of the fittest" is based on dont really work the same way. The rate of mutation just has to stay relatively constant, and we'll increase the potential gene expressions as the population just grows (as opposed to the high/low cycle other animals undergo), which means new paths of evolution will persist, just not permeate through society as quickly.

5/22/2008 11:24:39 PM

I see exactly what you mean, but as far as becoming more intelligent I thought that it was pretty common for stupid folks to have more kids.

As far as people like Stephen Hawking, I don't consider him weak, just disabled. Hundred of thousands of years ago I imagine that intelligence could still outweigh physical attributes in many cases, like the nerd who invented flint tipped spears kicking the shit out of people with sharpened sticks. Regardless, aren't analytical geniuses like Hawking usually aberrations in that the majority of people in his specific gene pool won't share the same type of intellect?

5/22/2008 11:33:42 PM

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"but as far as becoming more intelligent I thought that it was pretty common for stupid folks to have more kids."

Poor people have more kids, but just because someone is poor doesn't mean theyre "stupid" and just because your parents are stupid doesn't mean you will be (that's what recombination and mutations are for). In any case, according to the flynn effect, the average IQ rises by about 3 points every 10 years, so something is making us smarter, at least by the way we measure IQ.

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"aren't analytical geniuses like Hawking usually aberrations in that the majority of people in his specific gene pool won't share the same type of intellect?"

They are aberrations, but it might still require a certain set of genetic conditions to even allow for them, which means the likely hood of geniuses like them might increase.

5/22/2008 11:41:01 PM

I think evolution includes physical and mental growth.


New ideas allow new tehcniques and the ability to adapt more schools of thought at once.

Kinda like Bruce Lee. He started studying all schools of martial arts.

I think we will eventually move back into the consonance of our ancestors......but with our newly found intelligence. From this new position we will really start to break it off right.

5/22/2008 11:49:44 PM

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"chit chat called - it's missing it's thread it said it doesn't want this thread"

[Edited on May 23, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ]

5/23/2008 12:26:17 AM

what a fucking retarded thread. moron is the only reason i haven't locked it, yet.

5/23/2008 12:46:16 AM

killpups, aren't you supposed to be sticking it to the oil companies by not buying gas on Wednesday or some such?

5/23/2008 12:57:31 AM

5/23/2008 1:19:25 AM

the human population is too big and too mobile. you need isolated, relatively small groups for evolution to happen. and when a species is successful (like us) then evolution might not happen at all. roaches, alligators, and sharks haven't changed much since 60 million BC

5/23/2008 9:44:15 AM

there's only one thing that can save this thread

http://youtube.com/watch?v=igaERNSGyzY

5/23/2008 10:06:02 AM

no war = no evolution



bitch

5/23/2008 10:08:29 AM

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"quickly as we would like to, because we as a species cannot stop killing eachother. "

it could easily be argued that it's because of this that we are evolving so quickly.

5/23/2008 10:12:07 AM

If reading a book is too hard for you, killpups, maybe you can at least watch a movie for a different perspective:

5/23/2008 10:12:34 AM

there exists a perfectly way to approach a quantification of modern evolution of humans.

How it's different, how it'll change what humans look like in 100s of years. All populations have some depletion and production rate of individuals, along with a host of relevant selection parameters. We could be said to be thrown "off balance", but this isn't the first time Earth has seen a species EXPLODE into new niches all over the world.

But this thread...

is crap.

5/23/2008 10:18:45 AM

and BY THE WAY, could you....
point out 1 war going on? just one?

really. a war. a real war. not some occupation that occasionally gets into a small arms fight, or some random rockets shot from town to town or a bunch of unorganized murderers and thieves that have been wondering around for years doing it so much the casualty count is high

show me an army vs army scenario. a real war please.

at most we are simply a police force at the moment vs. a loosely knit group with no single unified objective other than to cause chaos. africa is in the same situation, but with an even more unorganized effort on all ends of the fight.

and the only reason we'll ever lose such a conflict is giving up before the viruses of this planet are eradicated b/c of liberal pussies with mindsets that give up in the face of adversity and require a babysitter.

5/23/2008 10:23:42 AM

Technological progress should make genetic evolution irrelevant. Natural selection requires vast amounts of time to produce significant change. Science takes you from mud huts to skyscrapers in decades.

5/23/2008 10:25:59 AM

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"show me an army vs army scenario. a real war please."

semantics. ask any soldier what a small arms battle is or a hand to hand battle is. he'll tell you it's war, plain and simple.

5/23/2008 10:27:02 AM

^^i'm guessing the requirement to keep growing at that pace will one day in the future require solar system mining efforts OFF this planet.

that'd be pretty cool to see started in my lifetime. i'm sure there's plenty of elements to be had in moons/comets/asteroids and other bodies in the solar system once we can get some dependable space programs with machines to grab them. with no life on those places, maybe the environmentalists will finally shut up. lol

^true, war = war. so would you consider police brutality war? or any random gang shoot-out? or even domestic violence?

[Edited on May 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM. Reason : .]

5/23/2008 10:30:11 AM

Hey, we're planning on returning to the moon soon. A lunar base by one of the poles. I know it at least has helium-3. That'll be worth mining if we ever get fusion power to work.

5/23/2008 10:33:00 AM

You know a good example?

Korea.

People in the North sided with the communists. And since then, a lot of them died, and South Korea's population increased more. They were the exact same ethnic group to begin with, those people in the north must have not had as good of genes.

I always think that the leadership of a country is a good selection method of the quality of the genes of the people.

5/23/2008 10:38:43 AM

You gotta fight. For your right...

5/23/2008 10:47:15 AM

^^ Are you serious? You think half of Korea went to the communists because they mysteriously had inferior genes?

5/23/2008 10:49:42 AM

so by that logic you are proving that you think black people are far inferior because they were enslaved a couple hundred years ago

5/23/2008 10:58:24 AM

this thread

is a horrible horrible thread

it must die

5/23/2008 11:06:55 AM

^^ And what about them Russians? First czars, then Stalin.

(Not mention America and Dubya.)

5/23/2008 11:11:16 AM

so basically liberals have been genetically inferior for the last 40 years except for the short period of carter and clinton?? lol

5/23/2008 11:17:15 AM