Anyone have to deal with these little cretins? I think my sister is dating one (and indeed, may be one herself), and I can't shake the desire to simply be mean to him. Not because he's with my sister (that's their business), but for fuck's sake, I want to sit him down and lay out a few ground rules:

I will begin to respect you when you begin to respect yourself.

Lightly grasping my fingertips as a handshake doesn't make me respect you. It makes want to squeeze off a fart.

Finally, Homosapiens are not members of the great ape family. Please look me in the eye when you're talking to me.



Your opinions please

7/4/2008 3:14:03 PM

be an adult about it.


being a dick to him will only make him worse.


lead by example.

7/4/2008 3:49:37 PM

be a dick to him.

7/4/2008 3:53:39 PM

sometimes they aren't emo, but are hipsters.

7/4/2008 4:38:06 PM

Give him a chance and don't start with a negative attitude.

7/4/2008 5:47:44 PM

Thats just it. I completely want to like the guy but he's not making it easy.

Its like being in a room with a personality vacuum

7/4/2008 7:15:42 PM

tell him to change it up or your gonna stomp his face in just on the principle of he's tryin to get into your sister's panties.

7/5/2008 1:04:10 AM

Quote :

"sometimes they aren't emo, but are hipsters."

this distinction only matters if you see either as real people.

7/5/2008 10:12:50 AM

The handshake would really, really creep me out.

7/5/2008 11:31:04 AM

ha ha, i a friend of mine that teaches high school says all the emo kids dot thier i's with an 'x' (as opposed to a heart or circle a la cheerleader bubble script)

7/5/2008 2:58:42 PM

exactly. I've never seen such pathetic results from genuine effort to be a social outcast.

epic fail, if you will.

7/5/2008 10:44:25 PM

perg, is your sister hot?

7/6/2008 12:52:34 AM

she can be with a real man like duke.

7/6/2008 12:03:29 PM

use words in his presence like "emo fag" and "those emo fairies"

7/6/2008 7:45:07 PM

Present yourself as that strong father figure that will absolutely dismember him if he doesn't respect your sister. Once he's afraid of you, you can use that subtle bit of angry-father-type persuasion to slowly get him to remasculate himself so you don't feel so moved to curb stomp him.

Dropping subtle criticism without being a total dick could be effective too. When he shakes your hand like a pussy, make a comment to such effect. If he gets particularly whiny in a conversation, drop a clever line to shut him down/make him look like he's just being a total fucking attention whore (as he is, right?). When he's not looking at you when you're talking to him, say something about it.

Come off as being firm and not taking any bullshit, but don't be a dick (don't wanna piss off your sister if you want to get him to change). I'm having a hard time thinking of stuff you could say to him without being a dick, though. It'd be so tempting to call him a nancy after he gave you the limp dishrag handshake. I suppose you could just crush the hell out of his hand too when he shakes it like a little girl.

7/7/2008 2:57:27 AM

They're gone & I can feel the life returning to the house

^Good words and I could dig the tough love approach..except for dropping a line to shut him down. As it was, I think he only directly said maybe 15 words to me the entire time they were here.

The last day before they left he said he was walking to the beach (about a mile away) and was gone for almost 4 hours. No cell phone, no $, no sun screen. I asked my sister if he would be smart enough to ask for directions, and her reply was "enh, he doesn't really ask for directions."

When we found him he looked like a stop sign. Still had that same serial-killer nonchalance. Like that kid from Sin City but with brown eyes.

Quote :

"perg, is your sister hot?"

I think the question would be better phrased as "perg, is sex with your sister worth risking a child that would link you to me for the rest of my life" ?

That answer sir, is of course no.

7/7/2008 7:15:11 AM

Just mention to him that you're debating with other people on the internet whether you should beat the shit out of him or otherwise because he's a pussy and maybe he'll man up.

7/7/2008 8:49:48 AM

or pay $ and smite me with his awesome internet troll skills

7/7/2008 11:31:40 PM

so whats "OS"?

7/8/2008 10:43:39 AM

I'm gonna go with Old School

7/8/2008 11:35:56 AM

You could always draw a comparison with Hitler. Every argument seems to devolve into an accusation of Hitler and the Nazis anyways.

7/8/2008 11:41:46 AM

Haha, that's a pretty good chop.

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"As it was, I think he only directly said maybe 15 words to me the entire time they were here. "

Oh. I suppose you'll just have to be that annoying father-type figure then. "So my boy, what are you going to do with your life? I know you want to make an honorable woman out of my sister one day, but before I can sign off on that I need to get to know you a bit better."

Being completely honest and fair like that could get your sister to elbow him if he's a dick and doesn't answer your question, unless she's acting like one of those crazy types (a girl with relationship issues). As long as she's reasonable, and you're not a dick, I imagine you'll either get him to open up a little more or he'll be scared off by the thought of having to get to know you (omg, conformist).

[Edited on July 8, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : eh, fuck it, i don't want the pic]

7/8/2008 4:45:18 PM

try focusing on the person you can actually influence and talk to your sister

ask her what she likes about him and what she dislikes. plant the seed of doubt in her mind and if she really is too good for him, point out all her good qualities that are stifled by him. is he getting in the way of her doing something thats important to her? bring that up too

you sound concerned for your sister so i assume you have a decent enough relationship with her to bring this stuff up in a non obvious manner.

7/8/2008 5:21:17 PM

She's young. He's young. Odds are it's a phase for him. Odds are the relationship won't last, either.

7/8/2008 5:38:31 PM

^^ Wouldn't being manipulative just allow for the opportunity for everything to go completely sour if his sister is smarter than a bread box?

If she's emo and her BF is emo and they're both young, it'll be hard as hell to get them to break up unless one of them gets over the emo phase.

7/8/2008 7:24:07 PM

Yeah I figure its a phase and here's hoping it ends soon but she definately would see through the faux sublty. I definately care about her & of course hope she is happy, whomever she chooses.

It's turned out to be a finer line to walk than I had originally thought- between voicing concern as a brother and not imposing myself on her life.




[Edited on July 8, 2008 at 7:58 PM. Reason : grammar nazis be nice]

7/8/2008 7:57:43 PM

so... what really defines someone as "Emo" ?

like, what's the major characteristic(s) that says someone is "emo"?

and do they consider themselves "emo"? is that the group identification they attach to their self image?




[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 1:04 AM. Reason : ]

7/10/2008 12:46:31 AM

Quote :

"Just mention to him that you're debating with other people on the internet whether you should beat the shit out of him or otherwise because he's a pussy and maybe he'll man up see that you are just as emo"

The correct answer is to treat the kid and your sister with respect, to act like you trust their judgements, and to accept them (in the absence of any evidence of real harm). They will appreciate it and come to respect you in time.

Any attempt to mold either of them will yield the opposite results. Actions speak louder than pushy words. Most of the advice in previous posts will just cause both of them to resent you.

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 1:12 AM. Reason : .]

7/10/2008 1:06:01 AM

Quote :

"I think the question would be better phrased as "perg, is sex with your sister worth risking a child that would link you to me for the rest of my life" ? That answer sir, is of course no."

i cant figure this statement out.

is it demeaning to yourself, your sister, or duke?

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 3:52 AM. Reason : e]

7/10/2008 3:51:48 AM

fuck emo
im so goth i shit bats

7/11/2008 6:55:18 PM

I have to agree with LowJack, as much as I hate to say it. I think a little passive-aggressive attacking is in order.

7/11/2008 11:14:35 PM

I didn't know what to expect from the guy, save for a little self respect. I was down for meeting this kid and enjoying their company.

I try not to judge based off a first impression...I was willing to overlook the dead fish handshake, but as the next few days wore on, it was like spending time with an "I'm cold" cartoon.

I'm also all about not trying to knock how a cat swings, but fuck: how do you drive 6 hours to the beach and still manage to be such a downey the entire time you're there?

7/11/2008 11:51:54 PM

heres what you do:

every time your sister isnt around: glare at the kid with a death-stare and tell him in a low voice that you're going to kill him. if you have time, briefly describe the manner in which you'll do him in. switch it up with a different method each time you do this.

every time when your sister (or parents, other friends, anyone else) is around: smile and be extremely friendly, and act like you think hes the coolest dude on the planet. put your arm around him. give him light guy-punches on the shoulder. Proclaim to all around, "Man, I love this guy!"

then, when no one else is looking, glare at him again, and draw your finger across your throat while staring at him. Point at your eye, then point at your nose.

7/13/2008 2:25:14 AM