Do any of you guys have experience teaching part-time at NC community colleges?


I was just offered a spot for ~25k

I'd be teaching 2 online courses this fall. (~8hrs a week)


is that 25k salary regardless of how many classes I'm teaching? That seems like a whole lot of money for a little work on the weekend....

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM. Reason : i plan to keep my regular 9-5. this is just side money. im afraid it might be a ton of stress]

7/14/2008 3:30:08 PM

You dont have to have lectures taped correct? My wife is in classes and all there are are posted readings and assignments with two tests. Should be pretty easy I would say go for it.

7/14/2008 3:43:19 PM

yeah.


i was just curious whether this was hourly or salary thing




I guess I'll ask this week.

7/14/2008 3:47:56 PM

How could it be hourly? There is no limit on what you have to put into preparation or grading correct?

7/14/2008 3:50:00 PM

true, true


i heard someone say once that they got paid per class, and not a flat salary. That's what had me wondering.

7/14/2008 4:02:04 PM

i'd say it's highly doubtful that you'll get paid $25k for 2 online classes for a community college - fulltime staff doesn't start much above 30k i'd bet

7/14/2008 4:05:06 PM

that's what i thought


I'll find out more tommorrow when i go in.


She definitely said 25k/year though.

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM. Reason : she also mentioned that she had to go by a "pay scale" that was in front of her. hmmm]

7/14/2008 4:08:41 PM

interesting.

7/14/2008 8:02:31 PM

sounds like a good deal. what kind of class is it?

7/14/2008 8:42:45 PM

i have a friend who did it. if you dont have a lot of extra curriculars going on its definitely doable, but make sure you put the time in to the prep work or it will kick your ass

she taught government

7/14/2008 8:51:57 PM

Part-time instructors are paid a set amount per course.

I doubt that 25K is for only 2 online courses. Faculty positions start in the 30s.

7/14/2008 9:04:39 PM

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"what kind of class is it? "

SEC 110 Security Concepts 3 0 3
Prerequisites: NET 110 or NET 125
Corequisites: None
This course introduces the concepts and issues related to
securing information systems and the development
of policies to implement information security controls. Topics
include the historical view of networking and
security, security issues, trends, security resources, and the role of
policy, people, and processes in information
security. Upon completion, students should be able to identify
information security risks, create an information
security policy, and identify processes to implement and enforce policy.



NOS 110 Operating System Concepts 2 3 3
Prerequisites: None
Corequisites: None
This course introduces students to a broad range of operating system
concepts, including installation and main-
tenance. Emphasis is placed on operating system concepts, management,
maintenance, and resources required.
Upon completion of this course, students will have an understanding of
OS concepts, installation, management,
maintenance, using a variety of operating systems.




both intro classes. Nothing i couldn't teach in my sleep.

7/15/2008 12:15:19 AM

From the talk in my department here at NCSU, the pay is $3-5k per course section taught.

7/15/2008 3:24:55 AM

^what's available around here that us TED folks might qualify for? i know wake take offers welding courses. not sure what else.

sounds like that 25k number could be right if you're teaching a few sections of two classes...

7/15/2008 3:46:03 AM

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"i'd say it's highly doubtful that you'll get paid $25k for 2 online classes for a community college - fulltime staff doesn't start much above 30k i'd bet"

OmarBadu

Sorry--you'd lose that bet.

NC Average 9-Month Community College System Faculty Salary [2006-2007]

Quote :

"$41,517"

http://ncccfa.org/legislation/salary_facts.htm

And I've seen lecturers at State make less than $25K.

In any event, keep in mind the DE can have a comparatively large roll. It may only be two courses, but you could possibly have 100 to 150-plus students.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 8:06:33 AM

interesting stuff.

thanks guys

7/15/2008 8:19:58 AM

Going to the meeting with the dept head and hiring lady today at 12


I'll let you guys know how it goes.

7/15/2008 10:11:40 AM

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"Sorry--you'd lose that bet. NC Average 9-Month Community College System Faculty Salary [2006-2007] $41,517"

what does average salary have to do with starting salary? your numbers don't really prove anything except that you don't know what your talking about

7/15/2008 11:07:44 AM

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"From the talk in my department here at NCSU, the pay is $3-5k per course section taught."

that could easily give you 25k if you're teaching a few sections of two courses. it also seems to be fairly in line with the poking around i've been doing today, though maybe a touch optimistic. depends on your qualifications and prior experience though.

7/15/2008 11:33:13 AM

I'm officially employed at the community college.

The pay based on my BS degree is 25/hr

A family member saw the job listed on their website and told me. I mailed an app to HR.

I'm teaching 1 section of 2 classes to start (both online, no taped lectures req, total 8 paid hours a week)

This is gonna be a cake walk. The curriculum for these classes is already done, too.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM. Reason : extra pay dirt]

7/15/2008 1:37:43 PM

so it's capped at $200/week?

or is that the max for the lecture part and grading/helping/office hours/etc is all added on as additional hours

7/15/2008 1:53:01 PM

capped at 200 a week


they call them "contact hours", i believe.


so yeah, $200/week for ~4 months, then i might take an addition section or two in the spring.


[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 2:21 PM. Reason : so yeah, im excited.]

7/15/2008 2:19:09 PM

how many students per section?

is it safe to assume for them to be taking those courses they must be at least computer literate - 1 of them doesn't have any prereqs though so you might get screwed on that one

7/15/2008 2:23:26 PM

I talked with one of the other instructors about the courses


he said average online section in our dept is about 13 students.


and yeah, im expecting morons for the OS class.



I pretty much have free reign to do what i want with these classes. There are curriculum's and policies in place from the last instructor, but i was encouraged to change them how i pleased.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM. Reason : the security class is what im most excited about]

7/15/2008 2:25:08 PM

not a bad deal

7/15/2008 2:25:46 PM

ive often considered this if I move away from the DC area, teaching government or an intro political science class based on my work exp and masters degree...easy extra couple $k

7/15/2008 2:48:39 PM

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"..easy extra couple $k "

srsly

7/15/2008 2:50:26 PM

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"The meaning of the word professor (Latin: professor, person who professes to be an expert in some art or science, teacher of highest rank[1]) varies. In some English-speaking countries, it refers to a senior academic who holds a departmental chair, especially as head of the department, or a personal chair awarded specifically to that individual. For example, in the United Kingdom , Australia and New Zealand it is a legal title conferred by a university denoting the highest academic rank, whereas in the United States, Brazil, Canada, Hong Kong, individuals often use the term professor as a polite form of address for any lecturer, or researcher employed by a college or university, regardless of rank. In some countries, e.g. Austria, France, Romania, Serbia, Poland and Italy, the term is an honorific applied also to secondary level teachers. Professors are qualified experts, of the various levels described above, who may do the following: * conduct lectures and seminars in their field of study (i.e., they "profess"), such as the basic fields of science, humanities, social sciences, education, literature or the applied fields of engineering, music, medicine, law, or business; * perform advanced research in their fields. * provide pro bono community service, including consulting functions (such as advising government and nonprofit organizations); * teach campus-based or online courses with the help of instructional technology; * train young or new academics (graduate students). The balance of these five classic fields of professorial tasks depends heavily on the institution, place (country), and time. For example, professors at highly research-oriented universities in the U.S., and as a general rule in European universities, are promoted primarily on the basis of their research achievements as well as their success in raising money from sources outside the university."

HOLY SHIT, AM I PROFESSOR GRANITEBALLS NOW?

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : i like the sound of that.]

7/15/2008 3:22:50 PM

major props to you on this thread, thanks to it i may be in a similar part time deal myself soon. sent resume/application today and spoke with the dean of the department. w00t. i was pretty specific with him as to what i want to do though, so he said i might have to wait for an opening depending on how fall registration turns out.

guess i might put my education degree to work a little after all. i can't fathom why i never thought of doing this when i was job hunting after graduation. it seems like most positions require you to have a either a couple years of industry experience or an advanced degree though. there's some stuff that doesn't even require a bachelor's degree though.

for anyone that's considering going into teaching but you don't have an ed degree or licensure, definitely don't overlook cc's. everything seems to be as competitive if not better than the k-12 arena and you have none of the lateral entry or full licensing crap to go through. from the little bit of reading i did, they're making big changes throughout the system in terms of facilities, course offerings, salaries, benefits, etc.

7/16/2008 12:25:46 AM

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"what does average salary have to do with starting salary? your numbers don't really prove anything except that you don't know what your talking about "

OmarBadu

Thanks for the --at least it doesn't feel like a dry hump.

But I've worked in and around the NCCCS, and a significant number of instructors start a good bit "above 30k"--their salaries obviously depend on education, location, discipline, curriculum or continuing education, and so on.

7/16/2008 8:23:11 AM

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"everything seems to be as competitive if not better than the k-12 arena and you have none of the lateral entry or full licensing crap to go through."

bingo.

7/16/2008 9:41:57 AM

I know that I do contract work for WTCC and based on my education and experience I get $29/hour

but that's in continuing education not curriculum

7/16/2008 11:23:26 AM