moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121755336096303089-rDRt3DuRFMKq0mLoZD5zZkaZy8E_20080830.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top
Quote : | " Speaking to donors at a San Diego fund-raiser last month, Barack Obama reassured the crowd that he wouldn't give in to Republican tactics to throw his candidacy off track.
"Listen, I'm skinny but I'm tough," Sen. Obama said.
But in a nation in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability? ... " |
ha
he is pretty skinny though7/31/2008 11:59:25 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
8/1/2008 12:05:34 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
8/1/2008 12:14:58 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 4 out of 5 reasons why Obama is a man of the people
(1) thats a $500 bike (2) no bike shoes or spandex shorts (3) is he riding tandem w/ one of his daughters behind him? (4) i think his rear tire is low on air. (5) SS agent in the car to his left.
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 1:08 AM. Reason : ] 8/1/2008 12:58:35 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
have we gotten to the point as a country where we think "not overweight" = "skinny"? 8/1/2008 1:02:35 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
my god, yes, we have.
look around you, when youre not on a base, at all the fatbodies .... everywhere. You want to see the typical fatass americans? go to any Wal-Mart. its like their natural habitat.
the more i ride my bike and watch what i eat, the more i see a bunch of fatasses everywhere around me. especially where I work on the Eastside suburbs. Seattle proper, people are generally in decent shape.
all sorts of things are even being reengineered for "american ass sizes"
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ] 8/1/2008 1:14:34 AM |
deerpark101 All American 773 Posts user info edit post |
Obama is ......black AND skinny?! 8/1/2008 1:21:44 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
they call him "Slim" back in the South Side P.J.s 8/1/2008 1:24:25 AM |
LickHer All American 1580 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(4) i think his rear tire is low on air." |
good point8/1/2008 3:28:52 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^Yes. Especially for men.
And I'll admit there have been times he's looked a little weak to me.
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 5:22 AM. Reason : sss] 8/1/2008 5:21:32 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But in a nation in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability?" |
Shit like this is exactly why I quit watching the news.8/1/2008 9:53:25 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
obviously he doesn't represent the population... (physically speaking) 8/1/2008 10:14:24 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "have we gotten to the point as a country where we think "not overweight" = "skinny"?" |
probably
I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and every once in awhile someone's like "You're so skinny!" and I have a decent amount of flab on my stomach.8/1/2008 10:42:26 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ you're a tub of lard
I'm about 5'11 and 145 after a good meal with all my clothes on. 8/1/2008 11:29:00 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
That can't be healthy. 8/1/2008 11:36:17 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
^^I'd never want to be that skinny. I have a decent amount of muscle mass anyway. 8/1/2008 12:09:52 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
The god's MUST be crazy!
8/1/2008 1:28:33 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
for a 5'11" 25-y.o. male, the medically recommended weight is between 135-175 pounds. that puts a person in the 19-25 range of BMI, which is considered healthy.
so moron is healthy, and ShinAntonio is on his way to becoming a fatbody by the time he hits his 30's and his metabolism slows down.
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ] 8/1/2008 2:01:15 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
except as, I said, I have a decent amount of muscle mass. BMI's been shown to be irrelevant when in that situation. My body fat percentage has been measured at 14.6% which is pretty good by medical standards. But nice try. 8/1/2008 2:06:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
5'11 145 sounds like a beanpole 8/1/2008 2:13:24 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm about 5'11 and 145 after a good meal with all my clothes on." |
That's technically on the low side of the 'normal' BMI range. But even with just this mass, someone could feasibly have a large body fat content. This shouldn't be, and isn't, skinny by any means.
Someone who is 6 foot-ish and 180+ pounds is either hitting the gym everyday like it's their job, or packing some serious pork. The unhealthy kind. The fact is, most of us are not particularly physically active, though there are plenty of exceptions. But the application of the typical American diet to a fairly non-active lifestyle was never medically appropriate. It is patently unhealthy.
I'm guessing that Obama would be in like the top 0.5% of physical fitness in America. Maybe better than that. But this is not going to hurt him. Why? How fat are newscasters on average? politicians? corporate leaders? Public figures are vastly disproportionately skinnier than the average person. Americans may be fat, but that doesn't mean they are proud of that fact.8/1/2008 2:17:23 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
its true. successful people tend to be physically fit or at least in good shape.
poor folks and losers tend to be fat slobs.
there's always exceptions, but this is the trend of modern society. 8/1/2008 2:26:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 6'0" 180 lbs is unhealthy? i dont get this thread 8/1/2008 2:36:12 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
in most every country besides america, it is borderline "fatass".
unless you're some kind of bodybuilder, thats pushing the BMI. fatty deposits around your organs lead to all sorts of health problems. 8/1/2008 3:09:57 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
weight inflation... a pound of fat just isn't worth what it used to be.
^ you don't have to be a body builder, you just have to work out a LOT. There are all kinds of flavors of body building and exercising anyway. If you plan on looking like a football lineman, then you'll pound down the protein shakes and weight gainers and put on weight quick. What it is you gain is disputable.
There's also healthy and not healthy fat. Belly fat has been shown to be unhealthy. In just about all cases and quantities. Just because you're not bulging doesn't mean you wouldn't have fewer health risks 10 lbs lighter and without the belly.
In order to have the lowest health risk possible, you would... need to look like Obama.
[Edited on August 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ] 8/1/2008 3:11:49 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I fully acknowledge I need to exercise more, and I am a little flabby around the waist. 8/1/2008 3:13:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "in most every country besides america, it is borderline "fatass"." |
is that just because you have some 3rd world countries where the norm is completely emaciated and on the verge of dying of starvation? maybe i'm off, but i seem to remember when i was a kid, "6 foot, 180 lbs" seemed like the typical dimensions of an "average man"]8/1/2008 3:22:54 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^I agree....seems like alot of people have a skewed view of health (i.e. skinny = healthy, which is not necessarily the case).
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18594089/
Quote : | "Just because someone is lean doesn’t make them immune to diabetes or other risk factors for heart disease,” said Dr. Louis Teichholz, chief of cardiology at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey, who was not involved in Bell’s research.
Even people with normal Body Mass Index scores — a standard obesity measure that divides your weight by the square of your height — can have surprising levels of fat deposits inside.
Of the women scanned by Bell and his colleagues, as many as 45 percent of those with normal BMI scores (20 to 25) actually had excessive levels of internal fat. Among men, the percentage was nearly 60 percent." |
the BMI is very misleading in alot of cases...granted there are alot of fat slobs out there, but going solely by height/weight or BMI doesn't give anywhere near a complete picture of one's overall health.8/1/2008 3:32:48 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, BMI isn't the end-all (for example, I'm 5'8" and 185 lbs, and am not fat)...but if you don't do some significant working out, BMI is probably a pretty good reference (i.e., for the vast majority of the population, it's gives a pretty decent estimate. i'd wager there are more people who go and play around in the gym once and a while and think they're ok despite their BMI than there are people who legitimately aren't accurately represented by their BMI). 8/1/2008 5:12:45 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
i think you guys are missing the real point here - it's not that Obama may r may not be too skinny.... it's that the Wall Street Journal wrote a fucking article about it. And where did the intrepid reporter who thought this was such important breaking news get some of her opinion and quotes from? A Yahoo Message Board thread that she started herself, asking just that question. http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/10322.html jesus f'ing christ. should we put this in one of the many threads about how the media sucks Obama's dick? 8/1/2008 10:43:01 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's not that Obama may r may not be too skinny.... it's that the Wall Street Journal wrote a fucking article about it. And where did the intrepid reporter who thought this was such important breaking news get some of her opinion and quotes from?" |
well, what the fuck did you all expect, when Rupert Murdock and Faux News bought the WSJ?
why did you think it was going to remain credible?
and hey, i'm 5'10" and 190.
im fatter than all you fuckers.
[Edited on August 2, 2008 at 1:49 AM. Reason : ]8/2/2008 1:47:37 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's not that Obama may r may not be too skinny.... it's that the Wall Street Journal wrote a fucking article about it." |
is this something even remotely new? not trying to be a dick but...are you trying to tell us that media outlets cover bullshit stories and over-analyze candidates???]8/2/2008 2:35:18 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
i think we would all expect the Wall Street Journal to be a bit more respectable than the other rags out there. Not to mention, this "reporter" actually put out flame bait on a Yahoo Message Board, was properly flamed by most of the respondents, then offered to call the guy who responded "Yes I think He is to skinny to be President.Hillary has a potbelly and chuckybutt I’d of Voted for Her.I won’t vote for any beanpole guy." 8/2/2008 11:46:58 AM |
Str8Foolish All American 4852 Posts user info edit post |
America too fat? 8/2/2008 12:08:51 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
As many reasons as there are to not vote for Obama, his weight is not one of them. 8/2/2008 12:21:06 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
As many reasons as there are to vote for Obama, his weight is not one of them 8/2/2008 12:56:57 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think we would all expect the Wall Street Journal to be a bit more respectable than the other rags out there." |
why do you expect WSJ to be respectable?
it was bought by Rupert Murdock's NewsCorp, remember?
now they're being run just as another subsidiary like Faux News8/2/2008 12:59:32 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
William Taft, now there is a damn president
8/2/2008 11:22:13 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
lol.
the good ol days
before television and internets. 8/3/2008 1:06:41 AM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Obama kinda reminds me of a turtle. Big head, skinny neck.
He could use to put on some muscle weight. He should hook up with the governator for a few tips. 8/3/2008 4:14:44 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
he's like 44 with a 9 year-old daughter.
would be the most youth the White House has seen in ages. 8/4/2008 11:41:20 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
He'll actually turn 47 soon, making him the same age Bill Clinton was when he was elected. 8/4/2008 11:49:35 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
oh right, 44 was his wife. never mind.
still only 17 years after the minimum. or 24 less than McCain. 8/4/2008 11:52:18 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
^^ today, actually 8/4/2008 12:24:40 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
^ Wikipedia was already updated. 8/4/2008 12:28:56 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
^^^minimum age to be president is 35 8/4/2008 12:55:42 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
13
why can't i do math today... 8/4/2008 9:14:48 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
5'11 145 sounds like a fatty to me as well. im only 128, but im sexy so its fine.
obama is a fatty too.
[Edited on August 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM. Reason : sigh] 8/4/2008 9:32:33 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
8/4/2008 9:48:06 PM |
jessiejepp All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
omg does this topic seriously exist? people think wayyy too far into some things. 8/5/2008 6:23:30 AM |