BigPapa All American 4727 Posts user info edit post |
Group Stage Draw was Today
Group A
Chelsea (ENG) AS Roma (ITA) Bordeaux (FRA) CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
Group B
Internazionale (ITA) Werder Bremen (GER) Panathinaikos (GRE) Anorthosis Famagusta (CYP)
Group C
FC Barcelona (ESP) Sporting Lisbon (POR) FC Basel (SUI) Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Group D
Liverpool (ENG) PSV Eindhoven (NED) Marseille (FRA) Atlético Madrid (ESP)
Group E
Manchester United (ENG) Villarreal (ESP) Celtic (SCO) Aalborg BK (DEN)
Group F
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) Bayern Munich (GER) Steaua Bucharest (ROU) Fiorentina (ITA)
Group G
Arsenal (ENG) FC Porto (POR) Fenerbahce (TUR) Dynamo Kiev (UKR)
Group H
Real Madrid (ESP) Juventus (ITA) Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS) BATE Borisov (BLR)
Group H could be an interesting group.
The ManU and Chelsea should win their groups 8/28/2008 1:26:18 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
my early favorite would have to be bayern munich. should be another good season, and i'm interested in seeing how teams like barcelona do with new management, and chelsea after last years dissapointment.
[Edited on August 28, 2008 at 3:48 PM. Reason : ] 8/28/2008 3:46:58 PM |
EZ2Score21 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
^I like where your head is at.
Any thoughts on Liverpool, asshat? 8/28/2008 4:11:01 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
welp, the only team that should give them any trouble in the group stage is atletico madrid, which is a matchup that i want to see: fernando torres vs his old team. they should advance, and they are ALWAYS a hard team to beat in a 2 leg format. i don't see them making the final but they could easily be on of the final four teams in the tournament, especially if players like kuyt and xabi alonso are still on top form to help steven gerrard out. 8/28/2008 4:21:29 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
No Milan 8/28/2008 6:16:22 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Liverpool won't make it out of the group stages, and Rafa will be out of a job by November.
[Edited on August 28, 2008 at 7:17 PM. Reason : .] 8/28/2008 7:11:37 PM |
Kev4Pack All American 25272 Posts user info edit post |
BATE Borisov (BLR)
Poor bastards. 8/28/2008 8:15:24 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I don't envy them at all 8/28/2008 8:24:47 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
match day 1 today 9/16/2008 3:37:22 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Chelsea go over easily on Bordeaux at the Bridge
Cluj with the huge upset beating Roma at Stadio Olimpico
Inter wins easily over Panathinaikos
Bremen and Famagusta draw
Shakhtar Donetsk beat Basel
Barca win easily over Sporting Lisbon but concede a goal
Atlético Madrid wins easily of PSV
Liverpool escape Marseille
[Edited on September 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM. Reason : .] 9/16/2008 8:15:11 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ werder bremen 9/16/2008 9:54:22 PM |
sleepyhead All American 820 Posts user info edit post |
bayern munich are back in the champions league 9/17/2008 12:00:12 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
ronaldo should be on the bench tonight for united 9/17/2008 12:01:13 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
so Keane finally opens his account, Kuyt keeps scoring in Europe, and...
Gerrard scored his 100th in a Liverpool shirt, I fucking love him
(homo) 10/1/2008 5:25:32 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
CFR Cluj hold Chelski to a 0-0 draw
The DJ at the game played "Glory Glory Man United" and the crowd rolled out a banner that said "United is Red, and Chelsea is Blue - My grandmother could take better spot kicks than you"
I think I've found a new team to root for 10/1/2008 6:59:30 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Well a 0-0 draw is not what I wanted to see. Cluj has played well but will crash and burn eventually. Chelsea will still win the group (They still lead based on GD and they haven't conceded a goal in regulation since the Liverpool game last year in the CL)
As far as Cluj being on Manure cock thats fine they can cheer for another squad they won't win the CL.
Injuries are starting to mount for Chelsea. Essien out until at least early 2009 possibly longer. Carvalho out for 2 months. Drogba goes down today granted he hasn't been very good this year. I see Scolari looking for a striker in the next transfer window. 10/1/2008 7:21:39 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I love it when people are too blind to be realistic. 10/1/2008 7:35:06 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^^ this is seriously Liverpool's chance in England
Chelsea/United are both hurting from injuries and Arse is losing to Hull
they REALLY need to take advantage while all these teams are reeling 10/1/2008 7:40:47 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Liverpool's biggest problem is Rafa Benitez.
How he holds onto his job due to Champion's League performance every year is atrocious.
Liverpool have the depth and the talent to be a force in the BPL, but he doesn't know what to do to win. It's why they struggle to beat teams like Stoke, but show up for the big games. 10/1/2008 7:53:27 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with most of that, but until Torres, they never really had a true goalscorer and were playing many players out of position. The defense hasn't been as deep as Rafa would like it to be either until this year.
No real good excuse but you can't argue with the Champions Leagues titles and to be fair, whether he or any Liverpool fan wants to admit it or not, he only obviously cared about CL and now he's supposedly putting England first, so this is his make or break year in my opinion.
I pull for Liverpool but it's pretty much 98% because of Gerrard, 1% Torres, and 1% Anfield... so it doesn't really hurt my feelings when they don't win the title. I'd just really like to see Gerrard get something in England. 10/1/2008 8:05:29 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
kiljadn I guess you are never blindly optimistic. Anyways Cluj played a good style today Chelsea dominated possession had one more good chance but the backline played excellant for Cluj. 10/1/2008 8:07:14 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^^the problem is, he's won one UCL because Milan took their foot off the gas - I know that will get you riled up, but it's true - and lost another by being severely outclassed by a Milan team who refused to take their foot off the gas a second go round.
While I'll agree that there's never been a true goalscoring threat the caliber of Torres, I'll counter with the fact that had Gerrard been played in his proper position, he'd have hit 100 goals well before now. Rafa has the unique ability to minimize and/or completely destroy a striker's confidence by letting him score a hat trick one game and then not even including him in the team the next (See Peter Crouch).
He has made a joke of his position in comparison to teams like Real Madrid - this is a team that builds the class needed to be able to win their domestic league without even thinking. Even then, Madrid does not take games off in their domestic competition because they've got a UCL game coming up the same week. That is how a team should be built - win your league, win the champion's league, become a legitimate force. It's why Capello lost his job there even after hauling them up from the doldrums by the scruff of their necks - because he did not progress in the UCL.
I agree that it's make or break for Benitez this year, but it's too bad it took this long. Liverpool deserve better than what he's given them, and it's too bad that the American owners don't know what they're doing.
^Nope, I've seen my teams lose too many games they should've won to be blindly optimistic. 10/1/2008 8:30:26 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they haven't conceded a goal in regulation since the Liverpool game last year in the CL) " |
it was 1-1 going into pk's in the finals. Ronaldo scored on the last good cross wes brown has served10/1/2008 9:30:48 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the problem is, he's won one UCL because Milan took their foot off the gas - I know that will get you riled up, but it's true - and lost another by being severely outclassed by a Milan team who refused to take their foot off the gas a second go round." |
True, but who expects any team to turn a 3-0 deficit around in 15 minutes, in the Champions League final? While the credit definitely goes mostly to the players and their captain, you have to give some credit to the coach for inspiring his team at halftime some how and for the decision to bring on Hamann to settle the team down. Regardless of why they won/how they fared in the final, actually making it to 2 CL finals in his time as head coach is pretty remarkable in itself.
Quote : | "While I'll agree that there's never been a true goalscoring threat the caliber of Torres, I'll counter with the fact that had Gerrard been played in his proper position, he'd have hit 100 goals well before now. Rafa has the unique ability to minimize and/or completely destroy a striker's confidence by letting him score a hat trick one game and then not even including him in the team the next (See Peter Crouch)." |
I agree with all of this, especially because I am a really big Peter Crouch fan. I think he is so freaking underrated. The rotation policy Rafa has is extremely frustrating, no doubt.
Quote : | "I agree that it's make or break for Benitez this year, but it's too bad it took this long. Liverpool deserve better than what he's given them, and it's too bad that the American owners don't know what they're doing." |
Chelsea has had some league success the past couple of years but ask them how bad they want to win in Europe. It's a tradeoff for sure, and what ManYoo did last year isn't the norm. And the owners aren't all bad. They gave Rafa the money he wanted to get Torres last year, and this year, they gave him money for Keane and to shore up the defense. They're annoying and all the speculation bullshit over Rafa's job security was getting old but they've made some kind of effort.10/1/2008 10:35:06 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
back today
man utd and celtic on espn2 juve and real madrid tape delay on espn classic
I am a united fan but would like to have these games switched 10/21/2008 1:51:41 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
post the times of the games 10/21/2008 2:31:08 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
watching The Bhoys right now...go Celtic! 10/21/2008 2:59:30 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Arsenal up 3-1 25 minutes in lol 10/21/2008 3:15:24 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
ManU up 1-0 on an offsides goal 10/21/2008 3:24:08 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Most goals in one Champions League day set 10/21/2008 4:43:22 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
epic 2 offsides goals for bebatLOLv 10/21/2008 7:35:48 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Liverpool really blew it today...gave up a goal in the 83rd minute and ended up tying Atletico Madrid 1-1
[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .] 10/22/2008 4:36:07 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Yep and Madrid had the goal called off for offsides, but he looked onside. 10/22/2008 4:44:47 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, and unlike the Celtic game yesterday, that missed call could have changed the outcome
[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .] 10/22/2008 6:21:43 PM |
Colemania All American 1081 Posts user info edit post |
The liverpool game was pretty awful. I think both teams should have had an add'l goal due to bad offsides calls. Also, they both had questionable non-penalties. Disappointing finish though, liverpool had control most of the game. 10/22/2008 7:10:18 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
As much as i love Celtic, they were never going to go to Old Trafford and get a point. They've lost 19 out of the past 20 away UCL games.
They're playing for a UEFA cup spot now, and they'll have to play top-drawer with the way Villareal's playing.
I can't believe how shitty Roma is this year - they're saying Spalletti will be out of a job if they do anything less than shellac Udinese this weekend.
Funny how Claudio Ranieri was in the same boat at Juve until they won v Madrid this week. 10/24/2008 9:49:44 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lolverpool get a late late penalty decision to tie that game, i thought it was a little dubious seeing how gerrard made one of his patented reckless runs into the box and was definitely looking to draw a pk more than actually playing the ball
atl madrid's goal in the first half was nice though 11/4/2008 4:52:43 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
that Liverpool PK was a BS call. I love how Chelsea lost to Roma. 11/4/2008 5:19:16 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ronaldo gerrard always makes made one of his patented reckless runs into the box and was definitely looking to draw a pk more than actually playing the ball" |
fyp
[Edited on November 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM. Reason : and mine]11/4/2008 6:06:53 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Crazy day. I can't believe Pana beat Bremen 3-0 in Germany 11/4/2008 6:23:18 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
VUCINIC!!! roma looked great today...chelsea surely liked being dominated by a team with 10 points through 7 matches on the domestic front
decLoL 11/4/2008 6:53:34 PM |
Colemania All American 1081 Posts user info edit post |
liverpool scared the shit out of me today. what a shitty game.
i think im still laughing over the penalty call, but ill take it.
it really bothers me they cant finish off lesser teams. they always play close games (score, regardless of control). i dont think theyre going to win the title until they start dismantling lesser teams (ala fc oil money and manure) 11/4/2008 8:29:20 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Another poor day from the Gunners 11/5/2008 4:42:25 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
juventus looking scary good...in europe at least
oh, and boo ryan giggs 11/5/2008 10:08:38 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I was actually cheering for Celtic today - I was sad that Giggs scored. Celtic is playing for a UEFA cup spot now, I just hope they will get it. 11/5/2008 10:15:43 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
^ mcdonald's goal was so excellent, compared to the rest of the sloppy play on both sides. man u should've won it at the end there (and ferdinand's point-blank miss), but glad they didn't. 11/6/2008 2:14:35 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
final games of group stage starting back up tomorrow 11/24/2008 11:46:39 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
HOP ON THE YELLOW SUBMARINE
let's go roma too! 11/25/2008 12:53:01 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Yes United, yes Celtic - fuck all the rest. 11/25/2008 7:53:38 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Arsenal plz2win 11/25/2008 9:47:58 AM |