joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
people keep talking about "high level cabinet positions" for Clinton... but what would she even accept?
Sec of State? very doubtful, IMO... that's just a mouthpiece for the president, and all you do is go around gladhanding foreign heads of state... not really her style, and it wouldn't be historical: Madeline Albright already pioneered that path, and Condi Rice has made it seem almost mundane.
Attorney General? doubt that too. she's qualified, but i dont think being "top cop" is her thing either. it wouldnt be an historical first either: there'd always be the inevitable comparisons to Janet Reno.
Health and Human Services? that would be more her style (health care) but the position hardly commands any real power for creating the sweeping changes that she'd want to architect.
Some newly created position, just for her? like "Health Care Czar" or something like that? A position of real power where she would be the architect of the new healthcare changes she's advocated for decades? would she want such a job, or take it if offered?
or would she just remain: Senior Senator from New York and become an icon of the Dem Party, perhaps rising to President (or Minority Leader) of the Senate and establishing her prominence there for life. Or perhaps becoming a chief Democratic critic of the Obama Administration and mounting another campaign in 2012? But if Obama is successful, she'd have to wait until 2016! ... that's an awfully long time and a lot of unknowns. she'd be almost 70 years old in 8 years.
my favorite choice: US Supreme Court Justice. it seems like a perfect spot. she's completely qualified, and nothing would gall the conservative Repugnicans more than that. it would also remove the potential of her being a competitor against Obama in 4 years. but it wouldn't be a "first"... O'connor and Ginsberg have already been-there-done-that. her position there wouldnt be historical in any sense, and John Roberts will always outrank her and likely outlive her. it'd be an awesome role, but one kind of relegated to the back pages, most of the time. i'm not sure if it's something she would want.
[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 4:52 PM. Reason : 2116, dur.] 8/29/2008 4:45:06 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
She's got my vote if we both live to 2116.
In all seriousness I think she could be most effective and prominent following the Ted Kennedy model as a major player in the Senate. 8/29/2008 4:48:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She's got my vote if we both live to 2116." |
I doubt I'll live to be 136 years old 8/29/2008 4:50:17 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
bah! hahah fuckers
okay, im going to go edit my post from 2116 to 2016, now 8/29/2008 4:52:14 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
I think liberal lion of the Senate as a successor to what Ted Kennedy has been is a serious option for her, but I think the US Supreme Court Justice position would be an excellent juxtaposition to McCain's VP pick. Choosing a woman for VP who is against a lot of women's rights, or choosing a President & Vice President who support women's rights who would put Hillary into a position where she could protect them would make it clear which party stands for what. 8/29/2008 4:53:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i think her position in Obama's administration will be defacto 2012 Democratic nominee 8/29/2008 4:53:30 PM |
youwould Veteran 264 Posts user info edit post |
i thought she was the junior senator from new york, not senior? 8/29/2008 6:28:28 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
she would get sec of state (even though she would be terrible at it) if she fetched water on this Palin thing 8/29/2008 6:34:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
^^I prefer to call her the junior senator of New York, since she's from Illinois and lived much of her life in Arkansas 8/29/2008 6:50:14 PM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
nah....Senate Majority Leader...in return for the incredible campaigning we all know the Clinton's can do. 8/29/2008 6:58:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the Clinton's can do" |
what makes you think Bill is gonna be big in the campaign knowing that he won't be living in the White House whereas he might be after 2012?8/29/2008 7:06:14 PM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
What makes you think he'll sit around and keep his mouth shut? 8/29/2008 8:32:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
he's lived in the white house and experienced presidential power before...for 8 years...if hillary got elected, he would again get to live in the white house and have the ear of the president, his wife...with obama he gets none of that
have you learned nothing of how relentless and power hungry the clintons are? sure they both endorsed barack, anything else would fuck the party as a whole, but i think they've got their eyes on 2012 if mccain wins, or 2016 if obama wins 8/29/2008 8:34:23 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think she's got to worry about a cabinet position because for that to happen Obama would have to be elected. 8/29/2008 8:36:45 PM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
They may go Hillary '12 or '16 but not at the expense of not promoting a democrat win this election. He'll campaign for him, whether or not he really likes him.
Plus, I don't see Ole Bill turning down any open bar charity event with young interns running around... 8/29/2008 8:38:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the interns aspect
i definitely think they want to promote a democrat, but i look at it like this
if obama wins, hillary gets a place in the administration, probably bill too, regardless of who wins in 2012, obama will be Dem incumbant candidate, Hillary waits 8 years to run
if mccain wins, hillary goes ahead and starts planning for 2012, doesnt have current admin position, but actually gets to be the Dem frontrunner in 2012, 4 whole years earlier
wouldnt shock me 8/29/2008 8:41:59 PM |
NCBRETTSU Veteran 245 Posts user info edit post |
I guess....I just don't think he's really interested in it that much anymore.
I don't really see him taking any administrative position in Obama's campaign either.
The Clinton Foundation keeps him pretty busy....not to mention his speaking events, but they are the clintons...who knows what they'll do 8/29/2008 8:47:45 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdloPRuWR_4 8/29/2008 8:51:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
"Hillary I'm looking forward to you advising me as well"
that was strong...hillary pwnt by obama 8/29/2008 8:54:43 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Obama needs to have Biden commit suicide and fast, maybe a family emergency, a disease or something else that gets him off the ticket...getting Hillary on it is his only hope to have any chance at McCain-Palin. 8/30/2008 1:03:30 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
rawr 8/30/2008 12:56:14 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
McCain should have picked Hilary
that would have been a monster ticket 8/30/2008 1:10:30 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
^Except for rallying the conservative base, who absolutely despise her. 8/30/2008 4:28:27 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
^^ a Democrat-Republican ticket. Think about what you're saying. 8/30/2008 4:54:51 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
my mom and sisters were gonna vote for obama until he picked biden. they're voting palin/mcold now. pwnt.
i doubt hillary is gonna listen to obama for shit, nor take a job from him, she can hold her own as a senator or governor if she wanted. 8/30/2008 4:57:53 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
your mom and sisters are retards, and now i see where you got it from. 8/30/2008 9:18:22 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
yep, they just figured out that a government run hospital system would be awesome just like our SUPER educational systems.
pwnt motherfucker. and stfu attacking ppl personally. your a shit wit without a president representing you for 3/4 of your life. i guess i understand your anger.
oh and tell your mom that she should've exercised her abortion beliefs before she blew you out onto the floor.
and about my family: i guess all their mccain votes will cancel out your vote into oblivion. lol. sucks to be you. 8/30/2008 10:00:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
lol 8/30/2008 10:04:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You won't be lolling if your brother dies in McCain's "hundred" year war. 8/30/2008 10:08:49 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
bullshit. they just drew up pullout plans this weekend. go read some before you go bashing your own party.
wow. we've all just turned into a bunch of abortioning inbreed inparty fighters and cocksuckers. it just warms my heart to know that cindy sheehan and a guy with relations to william ayers and black panther leader represent my political party.
fuck that. i'm sick of it. oh but at least we invented the internets to fuck with each other online about it everyday!Y!Y!Y! YAYAYAY. let's go suck each others cocks and talk about gay rights now!!:!:!
8/30/2008 10:20:26 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
oh and if you want details, his entire division has been called home and won't be returning. god, and to think i would expect a fellow liberal to know a damn thing about our military. WRONG AGAIN.
so take your 100 year war horseshit and every other talking point from defenderofthecocksuckermovement.com and shove it up your ass.
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 10:24 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 10:21:44 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
meow.
rrrawr.
pffft, pffft.
meow.
everyone welcome the new e-tuff guy.
by the way, dipshit, your inbred family's votes wont cancel mine. my state will go Obama regardless. 8/31/2008 1:06:36 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "his entire division has been called home and won't be returning." |
Let's just hope a certain presidential candidate isn't blindly gung-ho about Iran.8/31/2008 1:16:59 AM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hillary Clinton's future in Obama Administration " |
for her recommendation, she got her bills paid. accepting any position weakens her future standing, if there is one.8/31/2008 1:24:04 AM |
ussjbroli All American 4518 Posts user info edit post |
so which SCJ is getting ready to die or step down that would even give hillary a shot at being nominated for such a position? 8/31/2008 1:31:50 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ a Democrat-Republican ticket. Think about what you're saying." |
lol...i know
i was just being stupid8/31/2008 9:20:15 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ there are 5 SCJs who will be over 70 years old when the new pres is sworn in.
2 of them, Stevens and Kennedy, are widely expected to resign some time within the new pres' first administration.
there very well may be more. but it think it's definite that there will be at least 2. 8/31/2008 7:46:08 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
5 Justices over the age of 70?
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joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
fdr tried to create additional seats.
these are just existing seats.
[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 8:00 PM. Reason : ] 8/31/2008 7:59:16 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
wonder what position Obama's terrorist buddy will get in his potential administration 9/1/2008 6:16:24 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
homeland security 9/1/2008 6:26:15 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
LAWL!!! 9/1/2008 6:54:01 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^I know, I was just trying to make a joke. 9/2/2008 12:11:34 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wonder what position Obama's terrorist buddy will get in his potential administration" |
how many fucking threads are you going to spout this shit? I'd like to think you have something more than that to try to make a case against obama.
just sayin....the horse is pretty dead.9/2/2008 12:29:05 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
yep. Definitely nothing to worry about when there are terrorists in an Obama administration. Let's talk about sluts!!! 9/2/2008 8:43:44 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or would she just remain: Senior Senator from New York and become an icon of the Dem Party" |
pretty sure she can't remain the SENIOR senator, since she is currently JUNIOR
[Edited on September 2, 2008 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]9/2/2008 1:44:52 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
eh, whatever. my point was, that she'll eventually be senior. 9/2/2008 2:53:36 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
one thing is certain. she's def [old] 9/2/2008 2:54:51 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
you're about a sharp as bag of hammers, ain'tcha? 9/2/2008 9:45:17 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
sharp as a bag of hammers. lol, yeh i'm gonna use that one in public. hehehe 9/2/2008 9:47:10 PM |