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"ASSOCIATED PRESS - There's no room at the Xcel Energy Center for maverick Ron Paul, so his acolytes have packed their cars, hitched rides on "Ronvoys" and will pitch tents at Ronstock '08 in defiance of next week's GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn. Almost 9,800 tickets had been sold for the Rally for the Republic, being held in Minneapolis, which seeks to bring together activists who are anti-war, anti-government regulation, anti-immigration, anti-taxes, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-outsourcing, pro-individual liberty, pro-civil liberties and pro-Paul. And to those who still dismiss him as a crackpot, Ron Paul says, "nanny nanny boo boo." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26472918/ "

man, you just can't make this shit up. oh well, if you're in town around Minneapolis this week and need to score a bag of weed, now you know where to go.





[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 3:24 AM. Reason : ]

9/1/2008 3:22:24 AM

Hooray for Libertarian policies.

Boo for Libertarians acting like complete nutjobs.

9/1/2008 3:24:11 AM

The pictures are even better

http://tinyurl.com/6l69so

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 3:25 AM. Reason : .]

9/1/2008 3:24:16 AM

I wonder what Bob Barr thinks about this?

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"No GOP speaking role for Paul The rally builds on Paul's presidential bid, in which he set a record for single-day fundraising on the Web and touched a nerve with some disaffected voters, largely in the Republican Party. In a few Western states, Paul was a serious contender for votes, placing second ahead of Republican John McCain in Nevada and Montana. He drew 14 percent from McCain in New Mexico, a battleground state."

Also, "disaffected" has to be the top rated political buzzword of the day.

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 3:30 AM. Reason : .]

9/1/2008 3:24:45 AM

Bob Barr?

you mean the guy who wants me to spay or neuter my pets?

9/1/2008 3:30:30 AM

No. Bob Barr wants you to spay or neuter your democrats. Preferably both

9/1/2008 3:35:53 AM

I was obviously referring to Bob Barr (the republican/libertarian nominated for the Libertarian candidacy for president for the 2008 election) rather than Bob Barker.

9/1/2008 3:41:16 AM

^^aha. cle-VER

^ ehh whatever. Bob Barker > Bob Barr. far more relevant, too.



[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 3:42 AM. Reason : ]

9/1/2008 3:41:36 AM

We got a great big Ronvoy, rockin' through the night!


Seriously though, Ron Paul might have been the wrong candidate but he was addressing a lot of the right issues. I liked the man, I appreciate the man, but he had a nasty habit of wagging his finger at voters during the debates and chiding them like an angry grandfather. I may still write him in though, I can't keep voting for what I feel to be the lesser of two evils. That and his supporters can be, just, weird. When you're getting ignored at a gun-show . . . yeah.


Bob Barr though, wtf? The Libertarian Party lost all credibility when they nominated him.

9/1/2008 8:52:40 AM

People need to take notice. This is one of the only large scale GRASSROOTS political movements in the country.

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"need to score a bag of weed"

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"Boo for Libertarians acting like complete nutjobs"

I dont get it, Yay! for perpetuating stereotypes the TV told you about.

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"The pictures are even better"

I actually LOLed at this one though

9/1/2008 9:57:29 AM

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"No. Bob Barr wants you to spay or neuter your democrats. Preferably both "

LOL. Good one.

Ron Paul is right on alot of issues.

9/1/2008 10:01:38 AM

I'm still hoping that a charismatic communicator will bubble up someday through the ranks of libertarians. Someone who can get people excited about personal responsibility and shrinking gov't power.

I could be dreaming.

9/1/2008 10:56:29 AM

im going to take a chisel tip sharpie to vote for ron paul

then im going to wipe my ass with the ballot

9/1/2008 11:16:28 AM

Wait, Ron Paul is anti-immigration?

Well, there goes any support I had for him.

9/1/2008 1:08:05 PM

I've always found libertarians stance on immigration to be at odds with their ideology. It's like they're able to let go of everything EXCEPT their racism/xenophobia.

9/1/2008 1:13:17 PM

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"I dont get it, Yay! for perpetuating stereotypes the TV told you about."

In fairness, as a RP supporter, I was weirded out by some of the guys I saw manning tables and holding signs.

9/1/2008 1:25:18 PM

they did seem like the kind who will lock you up in their basement dungeon.

9/1/2008 5:59:23 PM

^^, ^ Really? Most of the ones I met were fairly normal (but what is normal anyways . . . . )

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"Wait, Ron Paul is anti-immigration? "

I dont think so, atleast not in my opinion. I think he was more of an "enforce current immigration laws and most importantly protect the nation's borders." He was especially adamant about protecting the borders as the Constitution says pretty explicitly that that is Federal Gov.'s job

That position is hardly anti-immigration, just anti-free-for-all that is currently happening at our borders. I have no idea what his stance was for Illegals currently in the US (I doubt it was amnesty though).

9/1/2008 7:28:56 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/02/paul.convention/index.html

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"Thousands rally at Ron Paul convention"

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"Paul said he entered the presidential race not because of what he wanted to do but because of what he did not want to do. "I did not want to run people's lives. I did not want to run the economy and I did not want to run the world. I didn't have the authority to do it, and I didn't have the Constitution behind me to do it," said Paul, "

[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 6:43 AM. Reason : quote/unquote]

9/3/2008 6:41:13 AM

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"Hooray for Libertarian policies. Boo for Libertarians acting like complete nutjobs."

9/3/2008 5:28:43 PM

Which state gave him their delagates? ... he earned 5 at the Republican convention

9/4/2008 1:15:24 AM

if the libertarians were not such nuts they might win, hell i support them

9/4/2008 1:39:36 AM

libertarians never get more than 2-3% of the popular vote in national elections.

its not only because they're full of beret-wearing neckbeards... although it does make them all that much more amusing.

they've stuck it out longer than most every other 3rd party in US history... but they'll disappear soon enough -- just like every other third party has.

9/4/2008 3:09:16 AM

^ Not so sure about that last part. I've known dozens of republicans jump to libertarian in the past 2 year than anytime before. I haven't looked at any numbers, but I do think they are growing, not dying.

9/4/2008 3:37:22 PM

^ you're right. my estimate of 2-3% was way off.

i should have said less than one-half of 1%

Libertarian Presidential Tickets

1972: John Hospers and Theodora Nathan
    2,691 popular votes (0.003%); 1 electoral vote;
1976: Roger MacBride and David Bergland
    173,011 popular votes (0.21%)
1980: Ed Clark and David Koch
    921,299 popular votes (1.1%)
1984: David Bergland and James A. Lewis
    228,705 popular votes (0.25%)
1988: Ron Paul and Andre Marrou
    432,179 popular votes (0.47%)
1992: Andre Marrou and Nancy Lord
    291,627 popular votes (0.28%)
1996: Harry Browne and Jo Jorgensen
    485,798 popular votes (0.50%)
2000: Harry Browne and Art Olivier
    384,431 popular votes (0.36%)
2004: Michael Badnarik and Richard Campagna
    397,265 popular votes (0.34%)
2008: Bob Barr and Wayne Allyn Root
    TBD

9/4/2008 5:10:09 PM

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"but they'll disappear soon enough"

I don't think so.

9/4/2008 5:41:40 PM

fucking best patriot we have in the country, don't know why people hate him so much. you talk about low taxes, the fucker wants to abolish the irs. what's lower than that??

9/4/2008 10:00:37 PM

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"I don't think so."

oh, ok. my bad.

they'll continue to loiter about, collecting 0.5% of the popular vote for another century

9/4/2008 10:18:31 PM

because things never change . . .ever . . . . under any circumstances

9/5/2008 8:14:04 AM

How is McCain a maverick,
How is he a reformist,
How is he any different from the crap out there

When they shun Ron Paul?

9/5/2008 8:32:50 AM

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"fucking best patriot we have in the country, don't know why people hate him so much. you talk about low taxes, the fucker wants to abolish the irs. what's lower than that??"

There are other sources for the government income. If you spend responsibly, i.e. no war on iraq, afghanistan, iran, drugs etc. you don't need a lot of money anyway.

BTW, if we reduce government spending to the levels of just a decade ago we can abolish the IRS without any problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPUeFtLrPM

9/7/2008 9:39:32 PM

Looks like republican/libertarian Ron Paul called for his followers to vote 3rd party. He gave a few options, but it seems to me the most overlap with be with the republican/libertarian Bob Barr who has the libertarian's nomination to run for president along with his vice presidential nominee republican/libertarian Wayne Allyn Root.

Looks like there is now a place for disaffected republicans to go.

9/10/2008 9:06:06 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/paul.endorsement/?iref=mpstoryview

if only more people would buy into the idea.

9/11/2008 1:52:39 AM

^agreed

the crazy thing is I think a lot of people do buy into it. If you ask most people if they like the two party system, they respond with a "no, not really." and yet it remains for some reason (honestly I cant even figure it out)

but as usual Dr. Paul is hitting the nail on the head with gems like these

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""If you ever get to the point where you believe the two parties are essentially the same, if the majority is outside of the establishment, it's not very democratic. The process is not working," Paul said. "

and

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"Paul said he's supporting the third-party candidates because the two major parties and media had "colluded" to avoid discussing issues and falsely presenting the difference between McCain and Obama as real. "

(quotes from Konami's link above)

9/11/2008 11:30:05 AM