ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/02/AR2008090202730_pf.html
Quote : | "ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 2 -- At a secret meeting with Barack Obama three months ago, Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes says, he tried to clear the air with the Democratic senator by saying that his organization was determined to be fair but would not be "in the tank" for Obama's campaign.
During the sit-down in a Waldorf-Astoria hotel suite in Manhattan that included Rupert Murdoch, the network's owner, Obama expressed concern about the way Fox was covering him. "I just wanted to know if I'm going to get a fair shake from Fox News Channel," Ailes recalled him saying.
"Senator, you're the one who boycotted us," Ailes says he replied. "We're not the ones who boycotted you. Nor did we retaliate for your boycott."
The meeting appears to have eased tensions between the two camps, which began when all the Democratic candidates, complaining that the network favors Republicans, refused to hold any primary-season debates on Fox. After resisting invitations for months, Obama now plans to appear on Bill O'Reilly's prime-time Fox program on Thursday, the night that John McCain delivers his acceptance speech at the Republican convention here." |
Cool 9/3/2008 11:08:17 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
cant wait to watch this 9/3/2008 11:11:28 AM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Hmmm, I thought he'd already done this. Must've been a different Fox News show. I think Hillary's been on O'Reilly recently. 9/3/2008 11:17:49 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
I can't remember the last time I watched anything Bill O'reily related, except for his breakdown on Inside Edition. 9/3/2008 11:17:55 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
As far as I know, Obama has never been on any Fox News affiliated show. I don't even think John Kerry was on there. 9/3/2008 1:35:18 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK IT. WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!111oneone 9/3/2008 1:36:41 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i be o'reilly does the same shit he did when he interviewed clinton
[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 1:36 PM. Reason : ie. sucky interview] 9/3/2008 1:36:46 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
holy crap. so the Palin thing really did jack up his master plan. why else does he feel the need to watch the #1 watched show on cable news networks.
cant wait to watch this 9/3/2008 1:46:29 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This only has the potential to go really well for Obama or really badly.
O'Reilly is a douchebag but he can be clever, and Obama needs to prepare well.
Also, it's clear he's doing this to steal some attention from the McCain speech.
The Palin situation can only work out well for Obama.
[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ] 9/3/2008 1:48:06 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Obama's daughter must be pregnant.
Moron, this will only go well for obama. Oreilly is such a pussy when the actual interview takes place. He talks up a game, then defends the softballs he throws during the game. Dont sweat it. Obama will do great on it.
[Edited on September 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .] 9/3/2008 1:55:04 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Dangerous move, but if anyone can handle it, Obama can. 9/3/2008 1:57:19 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
as long as he can keep the "uh"s in check. First lesson of public speaking: If you're formulating answers don't say "uh" just be silent until the words come to you. 9/3/2008 2:23:25 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
If they are negociating an appearance, im sure barry will have the questions before he goes on. So dont worry about the wizard of uhs making an appearance. 9/3/2008 2:30:26 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
9/3/2008 2:35:05 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
I think going on o'reilly helped hillary. it will probably also help obama. 9/3/2008 2:39:26 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
What time Thursday night will this be? 9/3/2008 2:41:23 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
i hope bill tears his ass up and makes him answer tough questions 9/3/2008 3:29:51 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 8 pm 9/3/2008 3:38:21 PM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
As long as he asks questions of this caliber :
"What is your favorite color, and why?" "Do you like or dislike global warming?" "What is a president supposed to do?"
...that'll easily make the hardest questions he's had to answer to date.
I like when Obama yesterday said, "well, she had a 12 million dollar budget a month to work with up in alaska, and i have 2 times that every week in our campaign budget."
oops, i guess he forgot she was also a governor with an 11 billion dollar budget. i hope he gets into those kind of comparisons...
either way, obama knows he has to do this and if he fails, he's sunk. 9/3/2008 3:43:42 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder how many questions he answers "thats above my pay grade" 9/3/2008 3:51:44 PM |
Pred73 Veteran 239 Posts user info edit post |
I'd love to see O'Reilly get into it with Obama the way he did with Geraldo. Not that it would be in any way productive or help anyone at all, but it would make for very entertaining television. 9/3/2008 6:43:34 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "as long as he can keep the "uh"s in check." |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148449 Posts user info edit post |
first NFL game of the season
or The O'Reilly Factor
hmmmm...thats a tough one............... 9/4/2008 10:49:35 AM |
Haggard New Recruit 30 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ Bill O'Reilly or any other talking head being taken as "serious" news.. 9/4/2008 10:53:37 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not sure anyone suggested that
he does, however, for better or for worse, hold significant sway over a sizable number of right-wingers. An appearance by Obama on his show will either calm his viewers down a bit if they see he doesn't have some kind of evil masterplan to destroy America, or (probably more likely), just shore up their hatred of him. 9/4/2008 11:09:55 AM |
Haggard New Recruit 30 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he does, however, for better or for worse, hold significant sway over a sizable number of right-wingers." |
Pathetic.9/4/2008 11:13:35 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sorry, answering that question is above my pay grade. 9/4/2008 11:45:05 AM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
Obama will admit on the show tonite that the Surge in Iraq was a huge success. 9/4/2008 6:29:16 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
WOOOO they just showed obama, he looked good.
Part 1??? I want it all! 9/4/2008 8:01:34 PM |
red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
i hate Obama so much, 9/4/2008 8:12:47 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
definitely didnt hurt him. Actually, hearing him talk about it all made me feel better than I did about the foreign policy side of things if he is elected 9/4/2008 8:48:50 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
I liked the interview. I though O'Reily had some great questions and I thought Obama answered them well. What I didn't like was that they decided to break the interview up and air it over 4 nights. 9/4/2008 10:06:06 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
9/5/2008 1:33:45 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
This was the biggest surprise for me O'Reilly "I think history will show Iraq was the wrong battlefield. And I think you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield."
I don't watch O'Reilly, so I don't know if he's said this before, or if this is his opinion now?
7 minutes? that's it? there's no reason to break that interview up except to draw more rating next week
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 7:10 AM. Reason : .] 9/5/2008 7:06:03 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
O'reilly showed remarkable restraint. Admittedly, i've only watched a few episodes of his show, but typically he plays the "whoever argues loudest is right" game. 9/5/2008 9:07:06 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
If you were reading a transcript it doesn't seem that bad, but O'Reilly's tone was very negative and dismissive. I don't see this helping out Obama that much. And the weird camera angle makes it look like O Reilly is looking down on OBama, which makes him look weak.
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM. Reason : ] 9/5/2008 9:07:58 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "definitely didnt hurt him. Actually, hearing him talk about it all made me feel better than I did about the foreign policy side of things if he is elected" |
Agreed. Hopefully this will go a long way in silencing the morons (on both sides of the aisle) who assume Obama would do nothing militarily simply because he's a Democrat. That's just ridiculous.
I liked the interview. I've never once, not even for a second, watched O'Reilly's show, but I'll make a point to catch the remaining three parts, which is, of course, why he split it into four parts.9/5/2008 9:15:46 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And the weird camera angle makes it look like O Reilly is looking down on OBama, which makes him look weak." |
I've heard interviews with other O'Reilly guests, and they say O'Reilly does this on purpose on all his interviews.
not to mention, he's like 7' tall9/5/2008 9:18:03 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know who the left-wing version of O'Reilly would be (I guess Colbert comes the closest, ironically), but here's a McCain interview: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/04/delusional-john-mccain-peddles-alaska-is-close-to-russia-nonsense/
The tone of the interviewer is no where near negative as O'Reilly. even on the "tough" questions, side by side, just because of the tone, McCain comes off looking better relatively. It's no wonder that no democrat likes to go on Fox News, their obvious inherent bias is hard to fight. 9/5/2008 9:33:17 AM |
TroleTacks Suspended 1004 Posts user info edit post |
Just watched it, Bill is a prick.
But it worked. Why don't you just say it.
Waste of carbon. Let's not actually discuss issues, let's just try to one up everyone that comes on my show.
I don't watch his show because I can't stand the lame yelling and dickish attitude, but does Bill O'Reilly ever actually have positions on anything, or does he just do what tdub does and point fingers and yell gotcha every other post?
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 9:39 AM. Reason : a] 9/5/2008 9:38:51 AM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
The ground war is over and has been over for quite some.
Here is the obvious tone to the question and true response he(oreilly) was wanting to hear from him:
Oreilly didn't want to ONE-UP anybody. He didn't care about making Obama look bad, he(obama) does that constantly anyways with douchebaggery in other areas.
Oreilly just wants to hear our future commander in chief not only BASH our troops constantly but perhaps give them credit on a MASSIVE MILITARY URBAN WAR VICTORY AND SAY GG GUYS!!!
THATS IT!!! He(obama) barely hinted at the fact that it's working.
But no. He(obama) had to play the "I'm God" card and not admit to any flaws once again.
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .] 9/5/2008 10:19:33 AM |
TroleTacks Suspended 1004 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "THATS IT!!! He barely hinted at the fact that it's working." |
Look here you third rate troll. Did you watch the clip? Please, go jump into a bubbling lava bath and tell us what it feels like.9/5/2008 10:22:13 AM |
csharp_live Suspended 829 Posts user info edit post |
how insightful^
lava? it can't feel as bad as it does to lose 7 of the past 10 presidential elections. 9/5/2008 10:29:47 AM |
TroleTacks Suspended 1004 Posts user info edit post |
Rofl, I'm not even old enough to have been around for all of those you mongoloid. 9/5/2008 10:41:55 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Republicans that cannot seperate supporting the troops with not supporting an inept administration are as dumb as they seem. 9/5/2008 10:44:22 AM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
oreilly was not AS negative and dismissive as he could have been. i mean that is the point...that is oreilly. and if you've watched before, you know he's pretty good at ripping people apart. i didn't think it was that bad. i was scared to watch at first but i think barack definitely definitely handled himself well. i'm interested to see the rest for sure. i didn't even really see him being that dismissive. its journalism. he is pretty good at what he does as much as i disagree with him on....well pretty much everything. but i thought obama did pretty well and i can't wait to see the rest!
^agreed
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .] 9/5/2008 10:55:52 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oreilly just wants to hear our future commander in chief not only BASH our troops constantly but perhaps give them credit on a MASSIVE MILITARY URBAN WAR VICTORY AND SAY GG GUYS!!!" |
Obama has consistently praised the troops on the ground. He has always focused his criticisms at strategy and Administration-level decisions
The problem with O'Reilly, and from the sounds of it, anyone at the RNC, is that he will not listen to nuance or anything more complicated than "i'm right, you're wrong" Just like when Giuliani the other night said
Quote : | "When Russia rolled over Georgia, John McCain immediately established a very strong, informed position that let the world know how he’ll respond as president at exactly the right time. Remember his words? Remember what John McCain said? “We are all Georgians.”
Obama’s — talk about judgment. Let’s look at what Obama did. Obama’s first instinct was to create a moral equivalency, suggesting that both sides were equally responsible, the same moral equivalency that he’s displayed in discussing the Palestinian Authority and the state of Israel." |
So, McCain's first instinct is to pander with the "we are all georgians" bullshit, because Russia is always the bad guy, and Obama's first instinct is to not make any accusations of blame until he understood what exactly was going on. And Obama is the bad guy here? please....9/5/2008 11:00:18 AM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oreilly just wants to hear our future commander in chief not only BASH our troops constantly but perhaps give them credit on a MASSIVE MILITARY URBAN WAR VICTORY AND SAY GG GUYS!!! " |
show me where Obama has ever bashed the troops. Maybe the WAR, but I doubt he's ever bashed the troops. Big difference.9/5/2008 3:52:09 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What I didn't like was that they decided to break the interview up and air it over 4 nights." |
its all about the ratings man but i hate it too9/5/2008 3:56:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The problem with O'Reilly, and from the sounds of it, anyone at the RNC, is that he will not listen to nuance or anything more complicated than "i'm right, you're wrong" Just like when Giuliani the other night said " |
I agree with this. Oreilly practically mumbled when he said "I think history will show Iraq was the wrong battlefield. And I think you were perspicacious in your original assessment of the battlefield." and most people (i know I don't) dont' know what "perspicacious" means, so this is pretty much a meaningless statement. Why couldn't he just say the Republicans were wrong? Oreilly said to so that if anyone asked, he could say "look I said this, I WAS being fair."
The Oreilly interviews, if the rest of them are like this, will serve no purpose other than to bolster Fox's ratings. The leftists watching it will say "Obama did a good job" because they'll be listening to Obama's words, and the righties will sasy "O'reilly got him, Obama really is a commie" or whatever it is they think about Obama.
I wonder if McCain will make another appearance on The Daily Show or Colbert before the election... he'd be smart NOT to at this point.
[Edited on September 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM. Reason : ]9/5/2008 3:57:38 PM |