It was parked on the porch. He cut the damn cable with wire clippers while I was eating a late lunch.

Now I need a new lock. I imagine I should get a sturdier one.

9/14/2008 5:46:19 PM

did you kick his ass?

9/14/2008 5:47:10 PM

was an ass beating promptly administered?

9/14/2008 5:47:15 PM

ass kicking needs to take place

9/14/2008 5:48:36 PM

No, no. I went after him for a bit, but I didn't want to fight. I probably should have pursued him more energetically. I could have saved my cable if I'd jumped up from lunch faster, but I had a hard time believing anyone would try it broad daylight.

9/14/2008 5:49:44 PM

9/14/2008 5:53:21 PM

those kryptonite locks can be opened with a bic pen tube

[Edited on September 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM. Reason : and any chain or cable can be cut]

9/14/2008 5:55:39 PM

I'm in Albuquerque now, by the way.

No need for y'all North Carolinians to fear.

9/14/2008 5:56:16 PM

I ain't fraid of no ghost

9/14/2008 6:03:09 PM

go with a u-bolt lock...the new(er) u-bolts are not easy to get into, and it will take a hardcore bolt cutter to sever one quickly

9/14/2008 6:06:10 PM

so glad i dont live in the ghetto anymore

9/14/2008 6:09:25 PM

Those fancy locks are expensive, though.

But I guess it's better than losing my ride.

9/14/2008 6:10:12 PM

i dont understand

did he actually steal it, or did something stop him?


"tried to jack"

9/14/2008 6:16:03 PM

i think its fairly obvious viper interrupted him

9/14/2008 6:19:13 PM

yes, fairly

i didnt read any further, i assumed the story would be in the first post

9/14/2008 6:22:05 PM

shotgun would've solved him trying to jack another bike.

9/14/2008 6:48:09 PM

unfortunately, it would've put the OP in jail too

unfortunately....

9/14/2008 6:48:43 PM

viper interupted his jacking

9/14/2008 6:49:38 PM

heck, i'm all for shooting people who try to steal my things

they deserve no less (note that i'm not saying kill...just a bullet or buckshot to the ass or leg or something)

9/14/2008 6:49:58 PM

9/14/2008 6:51:45 PM

^^

[Edited on September 14, 2008 at 6:52 PM. Reason : ]

9/14/2008 6:52:17 PM

Property is only a concept of the male patriarchy. By resisting his efforts to equally redistribute wealth across the width and breadth of society you've reinforced the repeated penetration of women by the male phallus.

9/14/2008 7:34:42 PM

^ Something like that, yeah. I don't like our current system of property rights. I certainly wouldn't want to hurt anyone over this sort of thing. Dude wasn't violent at all. He started walking as soon as I open the door.

But my complaints about society aside, I need the bike. I use it every day. If I had caught up to him or if he hadn't fled, I would have explained that. Theft, particularly to sell, isn't my ideal system either.

9/14/2008 8:31:54 PM

Quote :

"those kryptonite locks can be opened with a bic pen tube"

that's an exact line in burn after reading (or pretty close to exact)

9/14/2008 8:33:15 PM

...

9/14/2008 8:37:42 PM

Ha, those silly messicans. I grew up in New Mexico...

9/14/2008 8:48:56 PM

^^^haven't seen it. apparently the new ones are better, but idk

9/14/2008 8:53:00 PM

hey, GOLDENVIPER, ain't you some kind of anarcho-syndicalist or something?

isn't this exactly the sort of system you advocate, right? dude wants your bike, then he should be able to take it. he obviously needs it more than you.

so i ask, why you trying to oppress a motherfucker anyhow you capitalist property-rights fascist.




[Edited on September 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM. Reason : ]

9/14/2008 9:39:07 PM

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"hey, GOLDENVIPER, ain't you some kind of anarcho-syndicalist or something?"

You bet. In fact, I volunteered at Food Not Bombs this very morning.

Quote :

"isn't this exactly the sort of system you advocate, right?"

As addressed above, not quite. For the record, I don't support theft as a first resort. I favor communication and sharing. Stealing to own isn't particularly better than any other ownership. I would embrace a communal system of transportation. My bike does sit around unused most of the time. That's inefficient. But allowing the dude to take it wouldn't have moved the world closer to this arrangement.

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"so i ask, why you trying to oppress a motherfucker anyhow, you capitalist property-rights fascist."

Technically, I didn't do anything to dissuade the thief beyond showing up. As I pursued him, I asked him to stop and talk things over. Unsurprisingly, he wasn't interested. It's not the perfect solution. We were both doing what we thought best under the established order. Look, life doesn't give any easy choices when you're anarchist. Many things I do contribute to oppression. I accept that and work to undermine the system as best I can.

9/14/2008 10:00:57 PM

I don't think you understand anarcho-syndicalism

9/14/2008 10:05:39 PM

you just admit that your bike "sits around unused most of the time"

what the fuck is this? you're a hoarder of material wealth.

this isn't about YOU. this isn't about YOUR ride. This is about your systematic denial of HIS RIGHT to have a ride.



of course, it always is only one-directional. when you want something someone ELSE has, then you're all about advocating change. when someone else wants what YOU have, then you agressively and even violently seek to maintain the status quo

see, this is why anarchists are so pathetic. its this sort of faggotry -- the 1% that continually shows up to social justice events -- that gives liberals a bad name.

fucking hypocrites.

9/14/2008 10:06:42 PM

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"Anarcho-syndicalism is a branch of anarchism which focuses on the labour movement.[1] Syndicalisme is a French word meaning "trade unionism" – hence, the "syndicalism" qualification. Anarcho-syndicalists view labour unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the State with a new society democratically self-managed by workers. Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system, regarding it as "wage slavery," and state or private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Not all seek to abolish money per se. Ralph Chaplin states that "the ultimate aim of the General Strike as regards wages is to give to each producer the full product of his labor. The demand for better wages becomes revolutionary only when it is coupled with the demand that the exploitation of labor must cease."[2] Anarcho-syndicalism remains a popular and active school of anarchism today and has many supporters as well as many currently active organizations. Anarcho-syndicalist trade unionists differ on anarchist economic arrangements from a collectivist anarchism type economic system to an anarcho-communist economic system.[3] Historically most anarcho-syndicalists have identified as anarcho-communists (such as Lucy Parsons) or anarcho-collectivists (such as Buenaventura Durruti)."

9/14/2008 10:07:11 PM

I'm a strict Odonian.

9/14/2008 10:08:09 PM

a bike share program is a good idea

joe_schmoe, when is the organizer's meeting for your bike share program?

9/14/2008 10:08:56 PM

i'm lolling hard

9/14/2008 10:08:56 PM

i don't share my bike with nobody. niggers be wreckin' my shit, don'tcha know.

9/14/2008 10:15:10 PM

yeah but couldn't you get a bunch of bikes through donation and put together bikes from discarded parts then paint them all yellow and put them at a spot somewhere in town for everyone to use and return... with enough spots around town it becomes a viable commuter option

9/14/2008 10:16:58 PM

Quote :

"This is about your systematic denial of HIS RIGHT to have a ride."

You're obviously trolling, but I'll bite because I enjoy discussing these issues. I have no reason whatever to believe the dude wanted to use my bike. I would have been interested in learning his reasons and motivations. Sadly, he didn't stick around to talk.

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"when someone else wants what YOU have, then you agressively and even violently seek to maintain the status quo"

Um, lawl? I didn't threaten. I didn't call the cops. I would like to continue using the bike. I'll admit to that. His taking it would have prevented this.

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"see, this is why anarchists are so pathetic."

This doesn't even make the list. Seriously, what anarchist thinker has advocated letting people jack your shit? I'm eager to learn. Many anarchists accept personal possessions.

9/14/2008 10:17:51 PM

it was Jesus

9/14/2008 10:19:40 PM

Quote :

"yeah but couldn't you get a bunch of bikes through donation and put together bikes from discarded parts then paint them all yellow and put them at a spot somewhere in town for everyone to use and return... with enough spots around town it becomes a viable commuter option"

yeah, except for the well-known phenomenon, "tragedy of the commons"

if you think i'm an advocate for anarchism or collectivism of any sort, you've totally missed the point of my sarcasm. I'm merely here to poke a stick at GoldenViper.

i WOULD support some sort of program where volunteers would rebuild donated bikes and SELL them at a nominal cost to people in need. as a non-profit type of organization.

but that's not the point of this thread.

the point of this thread is some anarchist almost had his bike jacked by a thief, and he about got violent. THAT'S funny.




[Edited on September 14, 2008 at 10:22 PM. Reason : ]

9/14/2008 10:21:07 PM

alright, go ahead and take this shit to TSB

9/14/2008 10:21:56 PM

i cain't.

i done quit TSB.

9/14/2008 10:22:28 PM

Jesus isn't typically recognized as an anarchist.

Ricardo Flores Magón, for example, specifically railed against territorial property. He didn't insist that all anarchists let others permanently remove their personal items without saying a word.

9/14/2008 10:23:07 PM

Quote :

"As addressed above, not quite. For the record, I don't support theft as a first resort. I favor communication and sharing. Stealing to own isn't particularly better than any other ownership. I would embrace a communal system of transportation. My bike does sit around unused most of the time. That's inefficient. But allowing the dude to take it wouldn't have moved the world closer to this arrangement. "

if im wrong please tell me...
your saying that if some one stole a bike and sold it to you its okay cause the guy that stole the bike need the money and the guy that bought it needed transportation?

<<<scratching head

9/14/2008 10:23:14 PM

I guess you missed my sarcasm as well

I was advising you in activism knowing full well that you're nothing more than an impotent internet cunt that talks a lot of shit and does nothing

way to be an asshole for no reason, hope you got off

9/14/2008 10:23:43 PM

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"As I pursued him, I asked him to stop and talk things over."

Ahahaha... I bet you creeped him the fuck out with that.

9/14/2008 10:24:03 PM

man why is it ridiculous for an anarchist to use violent force to preserve personal property?

that doesn't conflict at all with my personal anarchism
in fact, it is encouraged

9/14/2008 10:25:03 PM

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"the point of this thread is some anarchist almost had his bike jacked by a thief, and he about got violent."

Trolling might be more fun for you without the blatant lying.

Just a thought!

9/14/2008 10:26:36 PM

LOL at this thread.

9/14/2008 10:37:36 PM

Quote :

"your saying that if some one stole a bike and sold it to you its okay cause the guy that stole the bike need the money and the guy that bought it needed transportation?"

No. As I said before, I don't encourage stealing as a first resort. It's a poor substitute for sharing. I've never supported taking individual possessions in regular use. From stockpiles (stores), sure.

9/14/2008 10:52:31 PM