neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Ok i've always been able to hook up two windows computers with an ethernet cable and they create a local network and assign ip addresses. Can i do this with a Mac Book and my desktop? We tried assigning ips with no luck. Both computers just show "cable unplugged". 9/25/2008 12:24:40 AM |
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
oh boy. 9/25/2008 12:25:07 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
step 1) buy a crossover cable (i'd suggest making one, but i'd be willing to bet you couldn't) step 2) plug each end into each computer step 3) assign IPs from private address space to each machine (e.g. 192.168.0.0/24) step 3) ... step 4) profit 9/25/2008 12:28:21 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
^you don't need crossover cables anymore. Atleast for windows that is. You can use a regular ethernet cable and windows will automatically set ips and create a lan. Does OSX not work the same way? 9/25/2008 12:30:05 AM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
...the operating system has nothing to do with it. learn the OSI model.
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .] 9/25/2008 1:07:58 AM |
DirtyMonkey All American 4269 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure macs have been auto-MDIXing for a long time now. you shouldn't need a crossover cable unless your mac is like 10 years old.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2274?viewlocale=en_US 9/25/2008 1:16:01 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Ok then why can i get any two windows computers to work, but not a windows and OSX computer to work?
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 1:18 AM. Reason : .] 9/25/2008 1:17:41 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
http://pdf.euro.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/applepdf.woa/wa/document?country=uk&pn=macpc_cab
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM. Reason : /] 9/25/2008 1:22:56 AM |
dannydigtl All American 18302 Posts user info edit post |
oh wow, i didn't know you don't need a crossover cable anymore. 9/25/2008 1:26:42 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
ok we just tried it with my other roommates macbook and it worked fine. Must be an issue with my friend's new macbook. 9/25/2008 1:29:34 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Figured it out. Friend just got his macbook and pin6 in the ethernet port was bent down, and wasn't making a connection with the cable. He never had used his ethernet before today. Guess he got a defective port.
-Apple fails. My first ipod touch had dust under the screen, and my friends laptop had a bad ethernet port!!!! And to think the apple store wanted to charge me the restocking fee to get an ipod without dust under the screen!
[Edited on September 25, 2008 at 2:28 AM. Reason : ..] 9/25/2008 2:01:11 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
*shakes head at this thread * 9/25/2008 2:28:29 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And to think the apple store wanted to charge me the restocking fee to get an ipod without dust under the screen!" |
if you brought it back within a year, i call BS on the restocking fee. They have never even tried to charge me anything for replacing an item still under warranty9/25/2008 7:30:42 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^apple always has tried to charge me for shit.
their customer service and warranty claims are the worst. 9/25/2008 7:40:38 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
i accidentally made a crossover cable a couple weeks ago and both computers and the router recognized it and compensated
it was pretty baller
of course, i fixed it just because it would have bothered me indefinitely 9/25/2008 7:48:00 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I bought a 2G iPod touch. Opened it in the car and saw the dust under the glass. Went back in. And it took like 25 minutes to finally get the manager to not charge me for the restocking fee. He said he had to charge it because still worked and the dust wasn't hindering operation. 9/25/2008 1:46:45 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(i'd suggest making one, but i'd be willing to bet you couldn't)" |
jesus christ...9/25/2008 1:55:16 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
i've made one before but you don't need them anymore. He's the one that suggested it when one wasn't needed. 9/25/2008 1:58:47 PM |
GKMatt All American 2426 Posts user info edit post |
self pwnt with the crossover cable insult. 9/25/2008 2:21:39 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
if the nics both report "cable unplugged," one would assume the cable you are using isn't working for some reason
modern machines will in fact handle connections that need to have the tx/rx pairs swapped w/ auto-mdix just fine. the hardware handles this. it shouldn't say "cable unplugged" in this situation. it should have link but not get a response to its dhcp discover packet and report it as such.
that's why i recommended a crossover cable. 9/25/2008 2:30:38 PM |
cdubya All American 3046 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone in this thread had to learn about crossover cables and auto-mdix at some point 9/26/2008 6:36:41 PM |
cain All American 7450 Posts user info edit post |
still gotta know when to use them in case some jackass turns auto-mdix off. (or your taking certs and they ask you to work under the assumption that some jackass turned if off) 9/29/2008 3:23:14 PM |