FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
Now stop worrying and enjoy your life 10/21/2008 4:38:30 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
shhhhhhhhhhh
It's best if they don't know... 10/21/2008 4:39:04 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Life 10/21/2008 4:39:34 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
God 10/21/2008 4:39:34 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
I LIKE THIS THINKING SONS.
BUT AS USUAL SOME METRO IS GOING TO COME IN WITH THAT PATHETIC FROSHRAPER POST AS IF IT ACTUALLY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY. THE RELIGIOUS ARE WRONG, REGARDLESS OF WHAT FROSHRAPER SAYS. SORRY METROS.
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ] 10/21/2008 4:40:01 PM |
Apocalypse All American 17555 Posts user info edit post |
10/21/2008 4:40:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
as long as there is a tooth fairy, i'm good 10/21/2008 4:41:51 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
If the Christians are right and there is a God, then there is only one of Him, which means He has a monopoly on existence and therefore no incentive to change the lives of His followers. 10/21/2008 4:46:56 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
EXCEPT THERE REALLY ISN'T ONE. THERE ARE THREE...
BUT WAIT, THERE'S ONLY ONE...
BUT THERE ARE THREE....
WHAT?! 10/21/2008 4:47:50 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, but the same God owns the three "subsidiaries". Still a monopoly on theism. 10/21/2008 4:49:05 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
the whole trinity thing is just a ruse invented by the catholics 10/21/2008 4:49:13 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
You forgot to include SON or METRO in your post 10/21/2008 4:49:14 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
who created God? 10/21/2008 4:49:27 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
jews 10/21/2008 4:50:38 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
BUH BUH BUH BUT IF THE UNIVERSE EXISTS, THEN IT HAD TO BE CREATED BUH BUH BUH BY SOMETHING.
THUH THUH THUH THAT SOMETHING HAD TO BE GOD.
OK, SO THEN USING THAT LOGIC SON; IF GOD EXISTS, THEN IT HAD TO BE CREATED BY SOMETHING TOO SON.
THE LOGIC DOESN'T JUST WORK ONLY WHEN YOU WANT IT TO SON. 10/21/2008 4:51:53 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
teleological and cosmological arguments ftl 10/21/2008 4:53:06 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
PENILOGICAL DEBATES FTW SON. 10/21/2008 4:53:57 PM |
Lewizzle All American 14393 Posts user info edit post |
Big Bounce ftw. 10/21/2008 5:02:26 PM |
homeslice11 All American 611 Posts user info edit post |
you're right - we evolved from a big kaboom which transformed into a pile of ooze shit - where we mutilated to have a soul and freedom to think. Who lit the match?
Besides theres no saying you can't enjoy life with God in the picture. I think you'll find the happiest people around you are those who do believe in God. There is no point in living if you have nothing to look forward to. 10/21/2008 5:55:44 PM |
G.O.D hates 4 lokos 4694 Posts user info edit post |
but what if there is? is not? is? is not? is? 10/21/2008 5:58:37 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Ignorance is bliss, eh? 10/21/2008 5:59:46 PM |
themodernage Suspended 1339 Posts user info edit post |
THERE ARE AT LEAST 2 (TWO) (TOO) GODS IN THIS THREAD.
I bumped into god at a party last weekend and he was a total DICK. 10/21/2008 6:57:45 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
^ DID YOU JUST FUCKING REALIZE THIS? HE IS A FUCKING METRO TO THE HIGHEST FUCKING DEGREE SON. 10/21/2008 7:03:26 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
y'all are fucking retarded 10/21/2008 7:04:15 PM |
Vix All American 8522 Posts user info edit post |
Does this mean there's probably no Santa Claus? 10/21/2008 7:05:01 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
10/21/2008 7:05:42 PM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
God doesn't make sense and can't be explained by logic, SON 10/21/2008 9:49:13 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
wow...let me be the first to say [old] 10/21/2008 9:51:05 PM |
cddweller All American 20699 Posts user info edit post |
[Tony] 10/21/2008 9:51:21 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I bumped into god at a party last weekend and he was a total DICK." |
Say what?10/21/2008 9:51:21 PM |
Morphine Boy All American 10900 Posts user info edit post |
Where's the quote from Froshkiller?
Someone look it up. 10/21/2008 9:52:01 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
there is 2 of them and hell, they are both on this site, ha small fucking world 10/21/2008 9:52:45 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "Hi. You're probably new to the Wolf Web. In fact, I'm willing to bet you're new to the internet in general. It's an exciting time, isn't it? I'm sure that you have been exposed to many ideas and perspectives you'd never realized existed, and you're just bursting with enthusiasm at the thought of sharing a few ideas of your own with your peers now that you find yourself in an academic environment that seems perfectly suited to such an exchange.
Why don't we go a little further? Odds are you consider yourself very intelligent. In fact, you're probably so intelligent that you've figured out all the quirks and kinks of organized religion--or at least Christianity. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? You were probably raised in a Christian household and resent that upbringing for limiting your personal freedoms, so it's only natural that you'd seek to undermine Christ's teachings and save others from having such a faulty belief system for their own good. Pretty cool of you, isn't it? You've really got it together.
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT KID
LET ME TELL YOU A SECRET
NONE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON RELIGION ARE RADICAL OR EVEN THOUGHT-PROVOKING
IT'S NO SECRET YOU GOT THEM OFF A FUCKING WEBSITE
WE'VE ALL READ THE PROSELYTIZER QUESTIONNAIRE TOO
NOTHING YOU CAN SAY IS GOING TO LEND A FRESH OUTLOOK
DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
THAT FOR SEVERAL FUCKING CENTURIES NOW
SOME OF THE MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE IN THE ANNALS OF HUMAN HISTORY
HAVE DEVOTED THEIR LIVES TO ANSWERING DEEPER THEOLOGICAL CONCERNS
THAN YOUR PETTY BULLSHIT
ABOUT THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE GENEALOGIES OF CHRIST IN THE GOSPELS?
I MEAN
HOLY FUCK
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY COCKSUCKER WHO EVER NOTICED THAT OR SOMETHING?!
WAKE THE FUCK UP
YOU'RE STILL JUST A STUPID KID
AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHAMEFUL
INCONSIDERATE
AND DISRESPECTFUL
BECAUSE MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO LIVE ACCORDING TO A STRICT MORAL CODE
AND MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO ACTUALLY TRY AND DEVELOP A STRONG, HONORABLE CHARACTER
BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT
FOR YOU TO ATTACK MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO PLAY THE VICTIM
TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY "FORCE THEIR BELIEFS" ON YOU
BY HANDING OUT A FUCKING PAMPHLET
I MEAN HOLY FUCKING CHRIST
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS TEN TIMES WORSE
GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY
THIS REBELLION AGAINST MOMMY AND DADDY ISN'T IMPRESSING ANYONE
WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE
YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST
YOU ARE NOT EVEN REMARKABLE
STOP ARGUING WITH GARY
HE IS MAKING A FOOL OF YOU
I SWEAR UPON THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE PIERCED FUCKING JEW KING
THAT IF YOU PULL THIS SALISBURYBOY, SYLVERSHADOW KIND OF SHIT ON ME
YOU WORTHLESS WICCAN PANTYSTAIN
I WILL SPLIT THE TENDER TISSUES OF YOUR WEEPING ASSHOLE
WITH A HARDCOVER EDITION OF THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
OF THE HOLY FUCKING BIBLE
YOU THINK YOU'RE SO FUCKING SMART
I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO THE SAME SHIT WITH ANY RELIGION
BESIDES CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM
WITH SOME BOOK BESIDES THE BIBLE OR THE TORAH
YOU AIDS-FELCHING CUM FLAKE
SO PUT THAT IN YOUR FUCKING PIPE YOU JUST BOUGHT FROM BUDDHA'S BELLY
THE FIRST WEEKEND YOU WERE UP HERE
AND SMOKE IT
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT COLLEGE KID
and that's my word." |
[Edited on October 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : - FroshKiller]10/21/2008 9:53:02 PM |
Morphine Boy All American 10900 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks Chem. 10/21/2008 9:56:50 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
^^
another thanks to chem is in order. 10/21/2008 9:58:46 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
My god is not the one that you wanna see. 10/21/2008 10:27:26 PM |
Paul1984 All American 2855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Besides theres no saying you can't enjoy life with God in the picture. I think you'll find the happiest people around you are those who do believe in God. There is no point in living if you have nothing to look forward to." |
There's no point in living if you're always looking forward to living and not actually living, especially if what you're looking forward to will never come.10/21/2008 10:28:23 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I LIKE THIS THINKING SONS.
BUT AS USUAL SOME METRO IS GOING TO COME IN WITH THAT PATHETIC FROSHRAPER POST AS IF IT ACTUALLY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY. THE RELIGIOUS ARE WRONG, REGARDLESS OF WHAT FROSHRAPER SAYS. SORRY METROS." |
10/21/2008 10:29:25 PM |
Paul1984 All American 2855 Posts user info edit post |
since it was eventually posted as a response to someone asking what it was, which they asked because you mentioned it, it was a self fulfilling prophecy. 10/21/2008 10:36:05 PM |
G.O.D hates 4 lokos 4694 Posts user info edit post |
but only one on here is actually cool 10/21/2008 10:37:06 PM |
homeslice11 All American 611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There's no point in living if you're always looking forward to living and not actually living, especially if what you're looking forward to will never come." |
That makes no sense. So, without saying the "I don't know therefore I can't assume" bullshit. Tell me, where do you think we came from and where do you think we go after we die? Heaven is real, hell is real, and every corner of the world believes in eternity. The Bible describes hell as a place humans don't even have the brain power to comprehend how horrible it is. Read: 23 minutes in hell. Is that even something you'd want to chance?10/22/2008 7:37:34 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
oh god they're gonna have fun with your dumbass 10/22/2008 7:41:49 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hi. You're probably new to the Wolf Web. In fact, I'm willing to bet you're new to the internet in general. It's an exciting time, isn't it? I'm sure that you have been exposed to many ideas and perspectives you'd never realized existed, and you're just bursting with enthusiasm at the thought of sharing a few ideas of your own with your peers now that you find yourself in an academic environment that seems perfectly suited to such an exchange.
Why don't we go a little further? Odds are you consider yourself very intelligent. In fact, you're probably so intelligent that you've figured out all the quirks and kinks of organized religion--or at least Christianity. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? You were probably raised in a Christian household and resent that upbringing for limiting your personal freedoms, so it's only natural that you'd seek to undermine Christ's teachings and save others from having such a faulty belief system for their own good. Pretty cool of you, isn't it? You've really got it together.
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT KID
LET ME TELL YOU A SECRET
NONE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON RELIGION ARE RADICAL OR EVEN THOUGHT-PROVOKING
IT'S NO SECRET YOU GOT THEM OFF A FUCKING WEBSITE
WE'VE ALL READ THE PROSELYTIZER QUESTIONNAIRE TOO
NOTHING YOU CAN SAY IS GOING TO LEND A FRESH OUTLOOK
DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND
THAT FOR SEVERAL FUCKING CENTURIES NOW
SOME OF THE MOST EDUCATED PEOPLE IN THE ANNALS OF HUMAN HISTORY
HAVE DEVOTED THEIR LIVES TO ANSWERING DEEPER THEOLOGICAL CONCERNS
THAN YOUR PETTY BULLSHIT
ABOUT THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE GENEALOGIES OF CHRIST IN THE GOSPELS?
I MEAN
HOLY FUCK
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY COCKSUCKER WHO EVER NOTICED THAT OR SOMETHING?!
WAKE THE FUCK UP
YOU'RE STILL JUST A STUPID KID
AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHAMEFUL
INCONSIDERATE
AND DISRESPECTFUL
BECAUSE MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO LIVE ACCORDING TO A STRICT MORAL CODE
AND MAYBE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY
TO ACTUALLY TRY AND DEVELOP A STRONG, HONORABLE CHARACTER
BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT
FOR YOU TO ATTACK MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO PLAY THE VICTIM
TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY "FORCE THEIR BELIEFS" ON YOU
BY HANDING OUT A FUCKING PAMPHLET
I MEAN HOLY FUCKING CHRIST
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS TEN TIMES WORSE
GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY
THIS REBELLION AGAINST MOMMY AND DADDY ISN'T IMPRESSING ANYONE
WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE
YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST
YOU ARE NOT EVEN REMARKABLE
STOP ARGUING WITH GARY
HE IS MAKING A FOOL OF YOU
I SWEAR UPON THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE PIERCED FUCKING JEW KING
THAT IF YOU PULL THIS SALISBURYBOY, SYLVERSHADOW KIND OF SHIT ON ME
YOU WORTHLESS WICCAN PANTYSTAIN
I WILL SPLIT THE TENDER TISSUES OF YOUR WEEPING ASSHOLE
WITH A HARDCOVER EDITION OF THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
OF THE HOLY FUCKING BIBLE
YOU THINK YOU'RE SO FUCKING SMART
I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO THE SAME SHIT WITH ANY RELIGION
BESIDES CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM
WITH SOME BOOK BESIDES THE BIBLE OR THE TORAH
YOU AIDS-FELCHING CUM FLAKE
SO PUT THAT IN YOUR FUCKING PIPE YOU JUST BOUGHT FROM BUDDHA'S BELLY
THE FIRST WEEKEND YOU WERE UP HERE
AND SMOKE IT
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT COLLEGE KID
and that's my word." |
lol10/22/2008 7:42:48 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
haha, i was just looking for that 10/22/2008 7:43:38 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
If you believe in eternal bliss after you die, then why do you wear a seat belt? 10/22/2008 8:37:11 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
^^ IT'S THE WORST FUCKING STATEMENT ANYBODY ON THIS WEBSITE HAS EVER MADE.
THOUSANDS OF YEARS, YEP THEY SURE DID THINK ABOUT IT THAT LONG AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DIDN'T KNOW SHIT FOR THOSE THOUSANDS OF YEARS. SO THEY SAT THERE AND MADE SHIT UP IN THEIR MINDS SON.
UNTIL SOMEBODY PROVIDES EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE ACCURACY OF A RELIGIOUS TEXT WHEN REFERRING TO ANY SUPERNATURAL EVENTS OR BEINGS, IT WILL BE NOTHING MORE THAN BASELESS SPECULATION.
SURE, I CAN'T DISPROVE A SINGLE GOD'S OR MULTIPLE GODS' EXISTENCE, BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO THINK THERE IS ONE. NOTHING MENTIONS IT BESIDES ANCIENT TEXTS WRITTEN BY OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IN TIMES WHEN NOTHING ABOUT THIS WORLD WAS WELL UNDERSTOOD (AND CULT LEADERS WHO GET IDEAS FROM TEXTS AND/OR THEIR OWN INSANITY DO ALSO MANUFACTURE THESE CLAIMS).
EVEN A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT COMPASSES HAD FUCKING MAGICAL POWERS, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE FUCK THE DAMN THINGS WORKED. IT WAS TRADITION SON! DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE STILL NEED TO HOLD ON TO THOSE BELIEFS? FUCK NO SON.
SO NO, I CAN'T DISPROVE GOD, JUST LIKE I CAN'T DISPROVE SANTA CLAUS OR THE TOOTH FAIRY. LUCKILY, UNTIL THERE IS SOME MERIT IN THE CLAIM THAT GOD DOES EXIST, I WON'T HAVE TO DISPROVE IT. JUST BECAUSE YOU MAKE A CLAIM DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS MERIT, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOUR RELIGION PUSHER TELLS YOU IT DOES. YOU CAN'T MAKE CLAIMS WHEN THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT SUCH CLAIMS AND THEN EXPECT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY SON.
SOMEHOW PEOPLE MAKE AN EXCEPTION WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION THOUGH, THEY WILL THROW OUT EVERYTHING THEY KNOW AND FEEL JUST TO MAKE IT WORK. RELIGIOUS SCIENTISTS WILL BEND THE TRUTH OR BEND THEIR RELIGIOUS TEXTS SUCH THAT THEY MESH TOGETHER. PEOPLE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ARE FRIGHTENED OF LETTING GO OF THEIR RELIGIONS.
THEY MAKE UP STUPID SHIT LIKE, "WITHOUT RELIGION WHERE WOULD YOU GET YOUR MORALS FROM?!?!?!" WELL SON, YOU DON'T CURRENTLY GET YOUR MORALS FROM RELIGION AND IF YOU DO, THEN YOU'RE A PSYCHOPATH. IF THE ONLY REASON YOU DON'T RAPE, MURDER, STEAL, CHEAT AND LIE IS BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, THEN SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH YOU.
[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM. Reason : ] 10/22/2008 9:07:22 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That makes no sense. So, without saying the "I don't know therefore I can't assume" bullshit. Tell me, where do you think we came from and where do you think we go after we die? Heaven is real, hell is real, and every corner of the world believes in eternity. The Bible describes hell as a place humans don't even have the brain power to comprehend how horrible it is. Read: 23 minutes in hell. Is that even something you'd want to chance?" |
I also read lotr ...so i threw all my rings in a volcano.... you know just in case..
I do believe in some higher power whether it be a mystical life force or a god or a god with a son or 5 gods i don't know I've never met him/her/them ... but if you read every book the common denominator is take responsibility for your actions but know that you can't control everything so don't try to and know that you can ask for supernatural support cause it does make you feel better whether or not its really there.10/22/2008 9:13:21 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci. Two reasons; first of all, I think he's a good actor. Okay. To me, that counts. Second; he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. Doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with. For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog. Joe Pesci straightened that cock-sucker out with one visit.
I noticed that of all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers that I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50 percent rate. Half the time I get what I want. Half the time I don't. Same as God 50-50. Same as the four leaf clover, the horse shoe, the rabbit's foot, and the wishing well. Same as the mojo man. Same as the voodoo lady who tells your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles. It's all the same; 50-50. So just pick your superstitions, sit back, make a wish and enjoy yourself.
And for those of you that look to the Bible for it's literary qualities and moral lessons; I got a couple other stories I might like to recommend for you. You might enjoy The Three Little Pigs. That's a good one. It has a nice happy ending. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood. Although it does have that one X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I liked best: "and all the king's horses, and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None. Not one. Never was. No God." |
[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .]10/22/2008 9:20:12 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "where do you think we came from" |
We came from our mothers' vaginas.
Quote : | "and where do you think we go after we die?" |
Most people go about 6 feet into the ground when they die, but circumstances can vary.
Prove it. And no, your precious holy book does not count.
Prove it. And no, your precious holy book does not count.
Quote : | "every corner of the world believes in eternity." |
Ad popularum. Just because something is widely believed by many does not mean it's true.
Quote : | "The Bible describes hell as a place humans don't even have the brain power to comprehend how horrible it is." |
In other words, more stuff that we can't see, can't detect, and it's beyond human logic. But it's ok, my imaginary friends are cooler than your imaginary friends.
Quote : | "Read: 23 minutes in hell. Is that even something you'd want to chance?" |
I'll take my chances. But that assumes there's a risk of anything.10/22/2008 10:15:30 AM |
JohnnieWalkr All American 2673 Posts user info edit post |
BUT WHAT IF HE WAS ON A FUCKING TREADMILL???
set em up son
[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM. Reason : fuck i never get to set em up] 10/22/2008 11:53:39 AM |