It is controversial

It is hated

but It is also WILD AND CRAZY



A number of things could happen:

As of right now Alabama vs. Texas Tech for the National title


I heard several scenarios on the radio of how 2 Big 12 teams could play for the national title and not even be the BIG 12 CHAMPION!!!!

I am sticking with my preseason pick and I know a lot will still have to happen but I am sticking with......


Florida vs USC

11/3/2008 11:15:51 AM

how's this different than your last bcs thread?

11/3/2008 11:16:44 AM

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11/3/2008 11:17:59 AM

No way TT finishes the season undefeated. I am still thinking Penn State versus UF after the Gaytors beat Bama for the SEC title.

Texas could sneak back into the chase to depending on how the OU, TT, and OkSt stuff shakes out.

PAC-10, ACC, and Big Least need not apply.






[Edited on November 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM. Reason : dfg]

11/3/2008 11:20:24 AM

ATTN: Users with blah blah blah

11/3/2008 11:25:40 AM

Regardless of record

I think the BEST teams right now are

1. Florida
2. Oklahoma
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Texas
6. Texas Tech
7. Penn State

11/3/2008 11:26:00 AM

Big 12 vs. Florida for NT

Florida wins by 13

11/3/2008 11:37:18 AM

^^I dont know how you can justify oklahoma as 2 and texas as 5 imo. Texas has them head to head and at this point in the season I think Texas has played a tougher schedule.

[Edited on November 3, 2008 at 11:38 AM. Reason : ]

11/3/2008 11:38:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-eavMSBnk&feature=related

11/3/2008 11:45:19 AM

Best (hottest) teams right now

1) Florida
2) Oklahoma
3) USC
4) Texas Tech
5) Texas
6) Penn State
7) Oklahoma State
8) Alabama

11/3/2008 11:45:57 AM

Uhhhh. take a look at who USC has played the last four weeks, that's why they're so "hot".

11/3/2008 11:46:56 AM

its too bad that penn state is going to get the shaft in the championship game because of ohio state not showing up

11/3/2008 1:15:45 PM

suspend this ass clown

USC is a hot team? lol

11/3/2008 1:22:39 PM

people say that now, but when psu loses by 50 to alabama people are going to be saying they knew it'd happen.

11/3/2008 1:23:38 PM

Yeah, PSU is like the Republican party of the BCS.

"Look what happened in the last four years quarters, we don't need four more years of this shit"

11/3/2008 1:24:16 PM

OU had a few key injuries on defense when they played Texas, not saying they would've won with those players, but if Texas loses another game, and Oklahoma wins the Big 12, I think they're justified as the best team in the conference despite the head to head early in the season.

11/3/2008 1:42:45 PM

i just dont see how Penn St isn getting any respect on here

11/3/2008 2:30:31 PM

Penn State vs USC for BCS

11/3/2008 3:24:26 PM

Quote :

"OU had a few key injuries on defense when they played Texas, not saying they would've won with those players, but if Texas loses another game, and Oklahoma wins the Big 12, I think they're justified as the best team in the conference despite the head to head early in the season."

well yea.. but if someone is saying "the best teams right now" I dont think you can just hand texas another loss, give OU the conference championship and use that to justify OU being better today. And right now I think Texas still gets the nod over OU from me.

11/3/2008 3:30:41 PM

the griping about PSU is just fucking retarded...it's like people forget that they absolutely housed Oregon State who went on to beat USC

tOSU played out of their fucking minds on defense in the game this year, had a healthy Beanie Wells, and still lost in a game that PSU was obviously playing not to lose

if an undefeated PSU doesn't make the title game over a one loss team, that's more of a death knell for the BCS than the LSU 2-loss bid was last year

PSU =/= tOSU
2008 =/= 2007

11/3/2008 4:08:52 PM

there really isn't anything to argue about. If PSU goes undefeated they will be in the championship game

11/3/2008 4:19:28 PM

What if alabama and texas tech go undefeated too?

Yeah, its a big what if, but it could happen.

11/3/2008 4:25:09 PM

Quote :

"Regardless of record I think the BEST teams right now are 1. Florida 2. Oklahoma 3. USC 4. Alabama 5. Texas 6. Texas Tech 7. Penn State"

How is Texas better than Texas Tech if TT just beat Texas

11/3/2008 4:25:29 PM

Quote :

"i just dont see how Penn St isn getting any respect on here"

1) they play in the big ten which is arguably worse than the ACC from top to bottom this year
2) they don't have a conference championship game
3) we just finished watching a big ten team get their ass spanked in the NC game the last two years.

I mean, yeah, if they are one of two teams undefeated, then unfortunately they will probably go the national championship game over a more deserving Florida, OU or USC team, but that doesn't mean they should.

11/3/2008 4:25:31 PM

Everyone is just sick of the Big 10, that's all. Yes, beating a healthy OSU team away is impressive, but when was the last time OSU won a big game before that? Vs. Michigan in 2006? If it was a top 10 ooc opponent they played away instead of OSU, there wouldn't be any talk or retardedness

[Edited on November 3, 2008 at 4:28 PM. Reason : d]

11/3/2008 4:27:13 PM

Quote :

"suspend this ass clown USC is a hot team? lol "

Oh i am sorry shutting out 3 of your last 4 opponents by a combined score of 153-0 isn't hot????

only 1 team has managed to score more than 10 points on them

I would say they are pretty damn hot

11/3/2008 5:17:51 PM

Quote :

"there really isn't anything to argue about. If PSU goes undefeated they will be in the championship game "

no thats not true.

This weeks BCS should prove that. Texas Tech jumped way up in the computers. If florida runs the table and beats a #1 Alabama team in the SEC title game they will jump penn state

11/3/2008 5:21:20 PM

^^haha those 4 teams are 8-25 though. If State wins their first four BBall games this year by 20+ points, will they be considered hot?

[Edited on November 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM. Reason : s]

11/3/2008 5:24:28 PM

you outscore your last 4 opponents 170-10

and you are considered hot!!

please tell me how that is not hot?

you can only play who is on your schedule and in your conference

11/3/2008 5:29:37 PM

Arizona is the only decent team in that four game stretch and they're 5-3. Arizona had every chance to beat them too. Take them out and they had their three shutouts were against teams that are a combined 3-22. They have a better defense than 1/2 the teams in the NFL - they should be shutting out cupcakes. Any top 15 D1 would have done what they did.



[Edited on November 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM. Reason : haha even tOSU]

11/3/2008 5:48:13 PM

Quote :

"1) they play in the big ten which is arguably worse than the ACC from top to bottom this year"

Seriously?

11/4/2008 9:20:05 AM

THE BOWL COMMUNIST SERIES SUCKS

TOURNAMENTS DON'T SUCK

11/4/2008 10:16:38 AM

Alabama and Texas Tech could both lose this weekend


not to mention, penn state is on the road at Iowa

We could have all top 3 teams lose this weekend

11/4/2008 5:20:27 PM

i like ol joe pa, i'd like to see him get another crack at a championship before he keels over

(not that he's actually coaching or anything, but still)

11/4/2008 5:28:28 PM

im really sick of hearing

"we've seen enough of the big ten the last two years, id rather see 1 loss big 12 and sec teams play in the title game"

penn state is NOT ohio state from the past two years

Quote :

"we've seen enough of OHIO STATE the last two years"

that is what they should be saying and penn state shouldnt pay for their chokage
.... just let the season play out

11/7/2008 1:32:01 PM

Thank goodness Joe PA lost!!!

11/11/2008 9:15:22 AM

^^ it has nothing to do with choking. OSU and the rest of the big ten has inferior athletes and inferior teams to the SEC and the Big 12. They have inflated records because their conference sucks and they don't have a conference championship.

11/11/2008 9:19:11 AM

doesnt matter anymore

penn state just showed they dont belong

11/11/2008 11:26:33 AM

Florida and Texas for the National Title!

11/12/2008 12:05:13 PM

Quote :

"THE BOWL COMMUNIST SERIES SUCKS TOURNAMENTS DON'T SUCK"

11/12/2008 1:58:32 PM

Florida will win another NT and my roommates will be happy.

11/12/2008 2:40:06 PM

speaking of the BCS, ESPN just made a bid today to televise all 5 BCS games and are offering 25 million more a year than FOX is currently offering.

For all of us that want to see a playoff, it may never come now. ESPN will be laying off all of their playoff talk that they push b/c of all of the money they will be paying. BCS conferences and presidents of schools will now make even more money and be further opposed to a playoff.

This just ruined any chance at a playoff, assuming the bid goes through, at least until the contract is up for renewal, whenever that will be.

11/12/2008 2:55:14 PM

^If that is so, then that blows. Can Obama Veto?


III

11/12/2008 3:01:26 PM

Here is why the Big Ten can suck it and no Big Ten team should play in the NT game:

1 - Your conference is called the Big Ten, but you have 11 teams. Fix that.

2 - You don't have a conference championship and you don't play a full schedule. Pick one. The PAC 10 (which doesn have ten teams) actually plays a full 9 game conference schedule, the Big East plays a full slate of conference games. The Big 12, SEC, and ACC play have divisions and a conference championship game. In 5 of the 6 BCS conferences there is a legitimate champion. Only in the Big Ten do you end up with the completely fucked proposition of 2 teams going undefeated in conference play and "co champions." Due to the "unique" setup of this league it is entirely too easy for 2 teams from this soft as butter conference to go to BCS games. Fix it. Either drop somebody, pick somebody up, or play 10 conference games.

3 - Your conference is shitty year in and year out. You can expect to see 2 good teams max in the Big Ten in a given year, but since it is so top heavy it's easy for the 4 or 5 decent teams to inflate their records. It's very similar to how the ACC used to be (when FSU was good and everyone else blew). It must be nice to look over your schedule and see Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Michigan State (who is hit or miss at best), and Minnesota who all traditionally suck and then get a couple other teams on "down years". This year, the ACC, which blows epic cock has 8 teams over .500. The Big Ten has 6.

4 - Your fans are so fucking stupid that they'd rather play in a meaningless bowl game than have a true national title game. I'm all for letting the Big Ten and the PAC 10 play in the rose bowl every year then the rest of the country can just go back to ignoring them as usual. The only problem is that every couple of years USC is actually legitimately good enough to contend for a national title so we'll miss out on seeing them play Florida or Texas. Big fucking deal.

11/12/2008 5:26:43 PM

Quote :

"speaking of the BCS, ESPN just made a bid today to televise all 5 BCS games and are offering 25 million more a year than FOX is currently offering. For all of us that want to see a playoff, it may never come now. ESPN will be laying off all of their playoff talk that they push b/c of all of the money they will be paying. BCS conferences and presidents of schools will now make even more money and be further opposed to a playoff. This just ruined any chance at a playoff, assuming the bid goes through, at least until the contract is up for renewal, whenever that will be."

FUCK!

11/12/2008 11:00:02 PM

^^ epic fail

11/12/2008 11:23:27 PM

for a school that is never anywhere close to national title contention, i'm really surprised how many people take the bcs personally.

11/12/2008 11:24:58 PM

point taken

11/12/2008 11:28:16 PM

^^^ In what way?

11/12/2008 11:55:41 PM

big ten teams won't play in the NT game only because, and IF, they won't be able to be competitive in it

not because
A) the big ten is a weak conference... ok great??? who cares
B) the big ten does not have a conference championship game... ok great??? who cares
C) the big ten has 6 teams this specific year only over .500... ok great??? who cares
D) the big ten has 2 solid teams at best every year... ok great??? what does that prove

none of those issues can prevent a team from still being the best in the country... all your points prove is that it is possibly easier to go undefeated

11/13/2008 12:09:33 AM