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neodata686
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I need to vent some. So i guess i'm pretty clean when it comes to most things. I live in a 4 bedroom apartment, and here are some rules that i simply can't understand why people don't get them.

1. Sink is not for dirty dish storage, it is for washing

2. Fruit flies/ants are caused by not cleaning the counter, not by magical forces.

3. If something is dirty, someone else can't use it, and therefore has to clean it once, then use it, then clean it again. Which is completely not fair to the second person. So clean all pots/pans after they have cooled down.

4. Cleaning up while you cook or right after you eat is technically more lazy than waiting until later because it only involves one chunk of time spent in the kitchen rather then having to go back later and taking longer because the food is dried on the plates. I mean food can practically be rinsed off right after you eat, takes 1/10th the amount of time. (Also saves energy used in dishwasher if stuff is washed right after use). So clean up right after you eat, not hours/days later.

I'm also the only one that sweeps/mops/vacuums, cleans the counters, etc weekly.

5. Do some people just not look in the fridge? I don't understand how milk/juice can be weeks old, and even worse, sometimes new milk/juice is bought to replace the old milk/juice, while the old milk/juice is still in the fridge mostly empty. This results in massive quantities of mostly empty old milk/juice bottles.

6. Vegetables don't last forever. Too many a time i have found soggy Harris Teeter bags full of liquefied vegetables which are hardly recognizable. And what's even worse is there are new vegetables mixed in the same drawer. Is it really that hard to notice things like that?

7. The fridge is not a disposal for leftovers. I don't understand how some people tell which taco bell bag is a day old or a month old.

8. Hand wash my damn beer glasses because the dish washer fades them.

9. Don't leave a wooden cutting board soaking in the sink the entire day. Wood expands.

10. The dishwasher is not a dish cabinet. Put them away, THEN use them.

That is all.

Any other annoyances people have run into living with messy people?

(roommate disclaimer: this is not directed at anyone in particular, just things I've noticed over the last 3 years of living in an apartment)

12/2/2008 10:28:13 PM

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you sound like a god damn woman

12/2/2008 10:29:30 PM

neodata686
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lol yes i've been told that before. So all guys are supposed to be complete slobs?

12/2/2008 10:31:38 PM

evan
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these should be common sense

12/2/2008 11:09:01 PM

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if you are really this upset about it, you should live by yourself

12/2/2008 11:10:38 PM

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Quote :
"you sound like a god damn woman"


I have lived with my GF for almost two years and she has not figured out any of this.

12/2/2008 11:17:22 PM

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FRANZIA BOXWINE

12/2/2008 11:18:00 PM

neodata686
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Quote :
"these should be common sense"


You would think.

12/2/2008 11:24:52 PM

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i too have had messy roommates

12/2/2008 11:27:28 PM

Str8BacardiL
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fruit flies are the worst

I have to keep one of those trailer fly tapes hung over the sink all the time to catch those fuckers. Usually at night I turn off every light in the house except the sink light and in the morning no more of them.

12/2/2008 11:34:11 PM

neodata686
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"if you are really this upset about it, you should live by yourself"


Not upset per se just annoyed. I have plenty of friends who are clean, and the cleanest people i know are guys not girls. I like living with people, just clean people. I also hate people who don't decorate. Having a single corona poster on your wall depresses me. I guess some people just don't express themselves where they live.

^see if there's nothing for them to eat they won't come.

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2008 11:34:45 PM

BigHitSunday
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god damn youre gay as shit

seriously??? you mad that someone isnt decorating??

youre a bitch dude

12/2/2008 11:36:34 PM

evan
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what's gay about being clean?

12/2/2008 11:37:04 PM

BigHitSunday
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making a list on tdub and wishing that all members participated in selecting fine home decor

12/2/2008 11:37:56 PM

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WHAT'S GAY ABOUT INTERIOR DECORATING?


hahahahahaha

12/2/2008 11:38:18 PM

BigHitSunday
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i mean why the fuck am i explaining myself to evans gay ass anyway

12/2/2008 11:38:53 PM

evan
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shut up, niggerfaggot

12/2/2008 11:39:49 PM

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I also hate people who don't decorate. Having a single corona poster on your wall depresses me. I guess some people just don't express themselves where they live.

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2008 11:39:52 PM

BigHitSunday
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your fat ass wishes

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM. Reason : s]

12/2/2008 11:40:43 PM

neodata686
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hahah i was exaggerating. I'm simply saying it depresses me when i go into an apartment and there's nothing on the walls, no art work, no character, no unique things, just some generic beer or movie poster.

Not necessarily "interior decorating" or "fine home decor" just shit that gives your place character. I'm talking about anything. Why live in a place that could belong to anyone?

12/2/2008 11:41:17 PM

evan
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no, actually, i don't find black men attractive

but thanks

12/2/2008 11:41:29 PM

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12/2/2008 11:41:46 PM

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you are not a unique and beautiful snowflake

putting expensive, pretentious shit on your wall rather than cheap, tacky shit doesn't express the depth of your character

12/2/2008 11:43:32 PM

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knew this would happen. All men are slobs and don't decorate. All women are clean and decorate. Alright i said it.

^i don't have anything expensive on my walls, and i don't think it's pretentious. I mean unique. What's pretentious about unique things that no one else has?

Alright so explain to me how to make a apartment feel unique. And different? Every time someone new comes into my room they comment on how much they like it and how unique it is. Is that a bad thing?

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2008 11:45:01 PM

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go ahead and let us know what's so unique and inspirational about your walls, since we need to live up to your standards

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : unless it's macaroni art, I am pretty sure you're misunderstanding the meaning of "unique"]

12/2/2008 11:46:47 PM

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my bare walls say alot about my character


that im not some newfangled hipster faggot that acts like hes still in college throwing keggers

12/2/2008 11:48:26 PM

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I lived in this motherfucker for like three months with nothing hanging from the walls but speaker wire.

Hell the first night I did not even have a bed let alone a couch. I had to wait for some of the neighbors to start moving to begin my furniture collection.

I bought a big ass grill before getting any interior furniture, all of the interior furniture was soccer mom/concert chairs.

12/2/2008 11:50:18 PM

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He's got a pretty snazzy blue...sheet over his main light in his room. And some fun artwork. And ferrets.

But I gotta say, after being one of his (slightly messy) roommates, the guy is pretty anal. And I mean that in the best way possible.

12/2/2008 11:52:58 PM

neodata686
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Ok i think we've come a long way since the beginning of the thread.

We have all determined that decorating a room with unique (different word?) things makes you either
A. Gay
B. A women
C. newfangled hipster faggot

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"go ahead and let us know what's so unique and inspirational about your walls, since we need to live up to your standards"


Various artwork, photographs, musical instruments, some of my GF's artwork, other random shit.

^^so do you seriously feel more "at home" and comfortable walking into someones house that is unique and decorated or completely blank?

^haha. Big ferret cage.

12/2/2008 11:54:20 PM

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"a women"



and if you cant think of a better word to suit your meaning than "unique" than you need to get up out of them home essential magazines and crack a thesaurus

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM. Reason : d]

12/2/2008 11:54:47 PM

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"the guy is pretty anal. And I mean that in the best way possible."


this is quite possibly the gayest thing said in this thread

12/2/2008 11:55:42 PM

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when I walk into an overdecorated home I feel uncomfortable as shit because I know they're going to be an obscene, anal prick (or at least thinking about it) if I touch anything or make a mess

12/2/2008 11:58:55 PM

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^^I don't quite know how to take that, coming from you.

I've got some cool Lord of the Rings paintings in my room and a bulletin board. If my light was even close to centered in my room, I might try to duplicate neodata's shade setup.

I can be slightly messy because cleaning doesn't rate that high to me, but I do go on the occasional cleaning spree when I have time and I'm fed up with whatever mess I've created. Organized chaos is more my type of thing.

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : carrot]

12/3/2008 12:01:38 AM

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"and if you cant think of a better word to suit your meaning than "unique" than you need to get up out of them home essential magazines and crack a thesaurus"


Ok you really need to help me out here. So lets do some examples.

A. I have a cool lamp my friend made me for my birthday made out of a bunch of old slides from my mom (she's a photographer). Other than unique, what else would you call something like this relating it to other apartments?

B. I have photographs i've taken and my mom's taken. If i can't call them "unique" photographs, what else should i call them?

C. My girlfriend does some amazing art, and if it's not "unique" i don't know what else to call it.

Individual? Different? Extraordinary?

^^See there's a difference between overdecorated, decorated, and empty. From what you guys have been saying it's like there's either completely blank, or really over decorated. There can be a medium.

You immediately assumed i'm some pretentious, anal, hipster, etc whatever. Is there no middle ground?



[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2008 12:01:46 AM

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I'm gonna go with:

C. newfangled hipster faggot

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM. Reason : notice how all of your decorating has been done by women, though. it IS feminine.]

12/3/2008 12:02:48 AM

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Not really. He's a pretty good photographer himself.

12/3/2008 12:04:02 AM

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BUTT BUDDIES

12/3/2008 12:04:34 AM

evan
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nah, i'm with neodata on this one

white walls are depressing

rooms shouldn't be "decorated," per se

but they should have character... personal items (pictures, etc), art, etc.

12/3/2008 12:04:35 AM

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^^^^not necessarily. I have some artwork from my mom and girlfriend, but i also have some stuff i made as well as some of my other friends who aren't girls. Do you guys seriously not have any friends who have walls that aren't completely blank?

^yeah i mean i don't have matching curtains, or designs on my walls. I just like putting up shit that gives my apartment character. That's all.

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2008 12:05:29 AM

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yup

before i had shit on my walls and personal stuff in my room, it was depressing to come home, haha... now it feels more like "home"

12/3/2008 12:09:56 AM

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Nick doesn't like communal dwellers that are inconsiderate of the community.

my facebook status

we're considering killing one of our housemates

12/3/2008 12:14:59 AM

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this guy is definitely gay

12/3/2008 12:16:05 AM

neodata686
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^graphic design major! So the "design" aspect doesn't really carry over to where you live?

I did go to an arts school with no sports, 70% women and did lots of musicals. I play a ton of instruments and travel a lot. I love San Francisco, and one of my best friends is gay. I do fit all the stereotypes.

ehhh, mechanical engineering. Doesn't quite fit in. I also play a lot of video games. But i decorate! So i must be gay!!

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:22 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2008 12:18:02 AM

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graphic design is for homos

that's what the guy is getting at

don't bother fighting with these people and decorate your house however you like
you have a right to live in a clean, comfortable and safe environment

12/3/2008 12:22:51 AM

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Quote :
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No he's a design major. I'm in mechanical engineering. That's why i was questioning him.

12/3/2008 12:24:06 AM

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im electrical engineering now.


nice try though. Also, its ok if you're gay and havent realized it. I'm sure some people will help you with the transition

12/3/2008 12:32:55 AM

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Are you offering, FAI? Was your own transition difficult?

12/3/2008 12:38:14 AM

neodata686
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^^My dating history would have to disagree. At least you acknowledge it's a choice.

Transition to EE? My roommates a CE.

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 1:03 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2008 1:01:24 AM

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Any other annoyances people have run into living with messy people? "


All of those you've listed sound about right.

I honestly think it depends on how some people were raised.

12/3/2008 1:02:45 AM

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^exactly. Parents who raised their kids teaching them how to clean up after themselves usually ended up cleaner than kids who had parents who cleaned up after them. I've noticed this trend among a lot of my friends.

12/3/2008 1:04:32 AM

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