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http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/feminism-rant.php


It's a good read but long. Here are some highlights:

The Patriarchy is Not Keeping You Down
The patriarchy likes to get together on Wednesdays at the YMCA (light refreshments provided) to talk about how much to cut women's pay for the week and think of new inherent male privileges to add to the ol' checklist.

Another one of the patriarchy's main goals has been to put up barriers to education for women. But we must be doing a shitty job because there are more women in college than men. Ugh, I told you we should have put a wall scaling test in the application!

Wage Disparity Exists, and Women Are Responsible For It
Women are in fact paid the same as men for the same amount of work. What they fail to tell you is that men work more hours, work more dangerous jobs, are more willing to relocate, and are basically chained to a desk for most of their miserable lives.

Preventing Violence Against Women is a Sexist Movement
Women like to tout that 95% of domestic violence is male on female. Sorry, we are just unable to control ourselves. The Hulk has taught us that any situation can be solved with violence. Stan Lee ruined a generation of young men.

Hell, even lesbians are hitting their female partners, and not just the butch ones! I guess they really took the phrase, "Pick on somebody your own size" to heart. It's not like there are really reliable statistics on this subject. Unless a man is bashing on some chick, who cares, right?

When Cancer Funding Competes
Almost twice as much money is spent on breast cancer funding over prostate cancer funding, despite the fact that 100,000 more men got prostate cancer than women got breast cancer in 2007. There is such a large gap in funding even after 10,000 more men died of prostate cancer than woman died of breast cancer in the same year.


Good read!

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM. Reason : tags]

12/11/2008 1:29:49 PM

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i agree with all the points from that article.

GoldenViper on the other hand will have things to say

In fact three of these four topics i've had issues with for quite some time.

the first, clearly. its just as much an excuse as those who claim a global jewish cabal is what is preventing their rust belt state uneducated selves from getting the jobs and money they so justly deserve.

the pay thing is ridiculous and i'm tired of hearing it, honestly. same job =/= same work. its that simple. painting it as such is full of logical fallacy.


the hitting women thing is NOT one of the three with which i've had long time issues. women hit men all the time, but that doesn't make it okay for men to hit women. however, i do think the issue of female violence should be more commonly addressed.


The cancer thing bothers me slightly. especially this year when i was at the breast cancer run and saw all these people displaying their sisterhood and unity. i asked my girlfriend who was running aftewards why she thought there wasn't a prostate cancer run. she paused for a while and then eventually said "because men don't make a big deal about things."



[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : words]

12/11/2008 1:34:13 PM

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Of course he will!

12/11/2008 1:35:44 PM

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the most worthless thing i've read all day

12/11/2008 1:35:57 PM

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You can use a handy find/replace function to make this apply to all types of other groups too.

12/11/2008 1:37:10 PM

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^but that doesn't reduce its validity

12/11/2008 1:39:59 PM

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^ true, its stupidity reduces the validity (except for maybe that last point, if it's true).

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 1:44 PM. Reason : ]

12/11/2008 1:43:39 PM

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[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 1:43 PM. Reason : ]

12/11/2008 1:43:39 PM

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Something Awful, huh? I'm going to use this against one of my comrades who consider that website relatively enlightened.

12/11/2008 1:46:59 PM

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while i can admit its a gross simplification of the facts at hand and is dealt with humor instead of in depth reasoning and discussion to address its soundness, but it doesn't make the matters which it addresses any less true.

12/11/2008 1:49:11 PM

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"Almost twice as much money is spent on breast cancer funding over prostate cancer funding, despite the fact that 100,000 more men got prostate cancer than women got breast cancer in 2007. There is such a large gap in funding even after 10,000 more men died of prostate cancer than woman died of breast cancer in the same year.

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How is breast cancer first detected usually?
- Yearly mammograms or self-exam

How is prostate cancer generally first detected?
- I'm guessing you go to the doc and he feels around your glory hole.

Of course men aren't going to get excited about helping to prevent any type of cancer that involves something going up their bums.

12/11/2008 1:49:30 PM

ALkatraz
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Come on man, you know the goons there are the cream of the crop.

12/11/2008 1:49:54 PM

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"while i can admit its a gross simplification of the facts at hand and is dealt with humor instead of in depth reasoning and discussion to address its soundness, but it doesn't make the matters which it addresses any less true."


are you kidding?

the second point is just blatantly false. First, it's absurd that they are implying that income studies don't account for the types of work people are doing. And it's blatantly false that those same studies don't also compensate for actual hours worked.

The first point is completely ridiculous. You don't have to have formal meetings for members of society to share the same cultural perspective.

And the third point about violence is essentially true. Women generally can't physically maliciously abuse men, so they don't.

12/11/2008 1:56:00 PM

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"And the third point about violence is essentially true. Women generally can't physically maliciously abuse men, so they don't."


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071109210657.htm

12/11/2008 1:58:53 PM

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^ Yeah, but there's a difference between a light slap and a fierce punch to nose. Other data show that men tend to do more damage to women than vice versa. Unlike moron, I wouldn't use physical differences to explain this.

12/11/2008 2:04:36 PM

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"^ Yeah, but there's a difference between a light slap and a fierce punch to nose. Other data show that men tend to do more damage to women than vice versa. Unlike moron, I wouldn't use physical differences to explain this."

first of all, why would you assume all they're talking about is a "light slap" when it is in regards to women, but a "fierce punch to nose" (lol grammar) when it is in regards to men?

second of all, physical differences clearly play a role in the statement that you just made.

12/11/2008 2:07:53 PM

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12/11/2008 2:08:26 PM

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I posted on the first page of this soon to be multi-page thread.

12/11/2008 2:09:29 PM

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"Other data show that men tend to do more damage to women than vice versa."


You don't think this is the result of physical differnces?

12/11/2008 2:10:43 PM

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"there's a difference between a light slap and a fierce punch to nose woman striking a man as hard as she can and a man striking her as hard as he can."



I hear you, but that article was for teens, not men and women, in response to the feminist group talking to a high school and then the men's group doing a follow up.

12/11/2008 2:10:48 PM

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in before fuchsia

12/11/2008 2:17:06 PM

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Feminism Is A Business
Feminism is the idea that women should be treated like children.

Didn’t accomplish anything this time around, sweetheart? That’s okay. Give it another shot after we bend the fuck out of the rules.

Scratch that. Feminism is the idea that women should be treated like spoiled children — who get do-overs and freebies until they’re chucking batteries at homeless people out the sunroof of their father’s BMW.

Well-raised kids get stuck with Dick Soup if that’s what they ordered. Do-overs are not a part of man-parenting. Do-overs are for ladies.

Feminism is the idea that women shouldn’t consider themselves happy unless they enjoy the same things men do — and that they should enjoy them at ten times the volume. Have you ever seen a woman pretend to like business or sports? If you have, then you’ve seen the very definition of an overcompensating attention whore. There isn’t a big screen on Earth that can drown out the “mating hoots” of a woman who’s convinced herself she likes basketball.

Professional athletes thrive on the respect and worship of men like they were Greek gods. A respect that is so inherent to Sport it cannot even be understood without a penis. Ladies, unless they’re on top of you, you don’t mean shit to professional athletes. You’re embarrassing yourselves with this unwanted fandom.

The idea of convincing someone to enjoy something more than they would otherwise might sound familiar to you. It’s called “marketing”.

You like beer…but do you like Coors Light? You should.

Personally, I don’t like Coors Light. I enjoy Boddingtons, Smithwick’s, Tecate, John Smith, Guinness, Imperial, MGD, and nearly any microbrew over 10% abv. But there are thousands of men out there who pay their mortgage every month just trying to convince me to add Coors to that list.

Carl’s Jr: Fuck you, I’m eating.

Feminism is powered by women who eat and feed themselves and their dozens of worthless cats with money made by maintaining and promoting the infernal machine that is feminism.

There are women out there who make their living convincing young women to play sports. Otherwise, they lose their budget.

Without feminism, Women’s Studies “professors” and ten thousand of the ugliest bitches on Earth would have to learn how to fuck properly in order to put a roof over their heads. Because what does life spent promoting women’s issues prepare you for? It’s technically not “marketing” because these dozy broads buy it by the trough. That makes it a cult.

Feminism: the Cult of Do-Overs

Even if you swallow all the bullshit, “equality” is a task that has an end. However, if feminism ever achieves this imaginary task, thousands of know-nothing, over-educated bitches will be out of a job faster than their cats will resort to eating one another to stay alive in the real world. Feminism isn’t about achieving anything. It’s about staying in business.

Feminism is about creating more feminist problems.

If Richard Jewell had actually planted that bomb at the 96 Summer Olympics and then called it in so he would look like a hero — like Janet Reno said he did — feminism would be Richard Jewell.

I bet they don’t even offer an introductory course on carpet munching in Women’s Studies. As far as I see it, pretending you’re half “lesbian” is the first requirement to being a feminist.

Men love working our asses off. Men love stacking up our accomplishments and shoving them in everyone’s face — or sometimes not shoving them in everyone’s face, but still making sure that everyone knows they could be shoved in their face at any moment. That’s called “being the bigger man”. And that’s also something women can’t do. Men love partying, going out with our man-friends, and most importantly, sleeping around.

Women don’t.

Women like getting shit for free based on their looks, and as long as feminism doesn’t teach that, it’s a scam and a con and a cult. A cult of do-overs.

If you’re one of these Daddy’s Little Princesses who thinks I’m full of shit because I’m teaching some manly analogue to feminism, go fuck yourself. I don’t care if men don’t agree with me. I don’t give a fuck if anyone agrees with me.

I’ll make you guys a deal. If any of you don’t agree with me, go get a job in an office and get married to the sweetest, most caring, least likely to be a bitch in seven years while having at least two guys on the side that she secretly chats with on MySpace up until then, and then come see me in ten years with your opinion unchanged.

You’ll be back, but it won’t be to gloat.

I’ll be fucking feminism all week. It’ll be fun. Like fucking a girl with self-esteem so low she can’t tell the difference between love and not getting spit on.

12/11/2008 2:18:07 PM

ALkatraz
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ibsf?

12/11/2008 2:18:10 PM

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^^lolololol. awesome

&LOL@
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[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 2:22 PM. Reason : .]

12/11/2008 2:22:40 PM

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Some of the OP is confirmed in this book.

12/11/2008 2:26:18 PM

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I'M A MAN I'M 40

RAWR RAWR RAWR

TIME TO GO MAKE A WAR AND PICK MY NOSE

12/11/2008 2:28:10 PM

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"You don't think this is the result of physical differnces?"


Perhaps partially. Females do tend to be smaller. But I think social conditioning matters more. Of course, the two interact. Women aren't encouraged to become physically powerful as men are.

12/11/2008 2:28:43 PM

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That and woman are children.

12/11/2008 2:29:54 PM

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^^^ Um. . .who is that addressed to? And ain't you, like, thirtysomething, dude?

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 2:30 PM. Reason : .]

12/11/2008 2:29:56 PM

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THIS JUST IN: MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT.

STUDIES SHOW MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT IN THEIR - SPEECH, EATING HABITS, PEEING HABBITS, SEXUAL HABBITS, WORK HABBITS, THINKING PROCESSES, SENSE OF PLEASURE/ENJOYMENT.

IT HAS BEEN FOUND THAT DUE TO THESE DIFFERENCES, MEN AND WOMEN ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.


STAY TUNED FOR MORE AT 6.

12/11/2008 2:31:54 PM

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lol hooksaw, the last post in the thread when i was typing that in was wdprice3

you just happened to have impeccable timing

google "mike gundy" and you'll see what i'm talking about

here i'll do it for you



[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : +]

12/11/2008 2:35:03 PM

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^ Still. . . *
















































*Not really.

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 2:50 PM. Reason : PS: WOW! Thanks--I hadn't seen that ^--preach, brother, preach!!!]

12/11/2008 2:45:26 PM

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moron

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"men work more hours, work more dangerous jobs, are more willing to relocate, and are basically chained to a desk for most of their miserable lives.

As education for women increases the wage gap may narrow, but there will always be some gap because some women will choose to put their education and career on hold to have kids. How many worthless BAs are out there because a chick found the "perfect guy" and decided to throw her education away to pop out a few kids and stay home?"


these factors all have some to do with the calculation of men making more than women as they are factors of getting a better return on their investment. especially when it comes to pregnancy. coming into a position women will make less because they have a high percentage of becoming pregnant and leaving the company to possibly never return. as to minimize the negative impact from this risk companies put less of an investment into these riskier assets.

Its also a matter of basic free market economics. companies must pay more for men because men desire more competitive salaries because they feel the need to be capable of supporting a family. since men essentially demand more money from the companies any individual company is more inclined to pay them that difference because if they don't then someone else will. the wage gap even further increases since based on this basic desire to support a family men are more willing to switch positions with other companies or ask for a higher salary within a company while women are less inclined to do so. Simply asking for a raise is well within their powers.

as for the women accepting lower wages, assuming that they're equal workers in terms of quality, hours and effort, why would the industry not overhaul their companies with women as to cut down on their overhead or higher men at a lower rate because they could just as easily have a woman replace him for 80% the cost. The answer to this question is that which i have already stated and that is because companies know that they are more likely to get a better return on their investment with men than with women.

[Edited on December 11, 2008 at 2:50 PM. Reason : /]

12/11/2008 2:49:27 PM

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"How many worthless BAs are out there because a chick found the "perfect guy" and decided to throw her education away to pop out a few kids and stay home?"


Yeah, what could be worse than having educated mothers? I'm not down with breeding, but come on.

12/11/2008 2:56:25 PM

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In our field of work I know some companies that won't hire women to fill field engineering positions because they couldn't cut it or be as productive. I know it sounds terrible to say or think about but some jobs are men friendly and some are women friendly. Why should a company even think about hiring a less productive worker(man or woman) if they're trying to make money?

12/11/2008 2:57:59 PM

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A current debate:

"Ani DiFranco Cancelled Her 'Righteous Retreat' to a Former Slave Plantation"
http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/12/ani-difranco-cancelled-her-righteous-retreat-former-slave-plantation/356555/

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"Feminist icon Ani DiFranco's "Righteous Retreat" seemed like a good idea: for just over $1,000, fans could spend four days hanging out with DiFranco and learning how to "develop one's singular creativity" through various workshops held in a "captivating setting."

Unfortunately, it turned out that that "captivating setting" used to be one of the largest plantations in the South, with hundreds of slaves working its fields."


"RIGHTEOUS RETREAT CANCELLED"
http://www.righteousbabe.com/blogs/news/11177617-righteous-retreat-cancelled

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" for myself, i believe that one cannot draw a line around the nottoway plantation and say "racism reached it's depths of wrongness here" and then point to the other side of that line and say "but not here". i know that any building built before 1860 in the South and many after, were built on the backs of slaves. i know that in new orleans, the city i live in, most buildings have slave quarters out back, and to not use any buildings that speak to our country's history of slavery would necessitate moving far far away. i know that indeed our whole country has had a history of invasion, oppression and exploitation as part of it's very fabric of power and wealth. i know that each of us is sitting right now in a building located on stolen land. stolen from the original people of this continent who suffered genocide at the hands of european colonists. i know that many of us can look down right now and see shoes and clothes that were manufactured by modern day indentured servants in sweat shops."


"HOW ANI SHOULD HAVE APOLOGIZED"
http://diversitysocialworker.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/how-ani-should-have-apologized/

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"Honestly, I am sick of fellow white feminists speaking for women of color and making decisions for them. I am sick of other privileged groups making non-apologizes for their oppressive bullshit. As a tool for my fellow white people and for other privileged communities, I have written an apology Ani could have written."

12/30/2013 1:17:46 AM

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Privilege is one of the most intellectually bankrupt concepts to come out of the various social justice movements.

The idea that you can size up a person's experiences, their difficulties, their opportunities simply by virtue of their skin color or genitalia should be sickening. It's stereotyping and generalizing at it's most base.

But that's probably my white male cisgendered privilege showing, right?

[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 1:30 AM. Reason : .]

12/30/2013 1:29:34 AM

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I found this to be interesting... You do see a lot of "breast cancer this... breast cancer that..." I'm not downplaying any form of cancer. I think of all the advertisement, Breast Cancer takes the number 1 spot of attention. There's a ton of adverts that say "protect your skin!" but they don't come out and mention skin cancer directly. Then there's even fewer prostate cancer stuff.

2010 Cancer report from the American Cancer Society:
http://www.cancer.org/index

http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@epidemiologysurveilance/documents/document/acspc-026238.pdf

Estimated New Cases: Total (Men/Women)

Breast: 209,060 (1,970 / 207,090)

Prostate: 217,730 ( 217,730 / 0)

Estimated Deaths: Total (Men/Women)

Breast: 40,230 (390 / 39,840)

Prostate: 32,050 (32,050/ 0)


[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 1:54 AM. Reason : .]

12/30/2013 1:50:43 AM

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^^It's not so much genitalia as gender presentation, and yes that is your white male cisgendered privilege showing: The concept of privilege didn't just come out of thin air in the past few years but rather it's a long-standing concept from sociology, describing the unearned, unsought, and often unacknowledged (by beneficiaries) advantages that people have based on the characteristics of the identifiable groups that they belong to and only readily noticeable by those who lack those advantages.

The first cogent description of the mechanics of privilege from a beneficiary of it dates to 1988, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" by Peggy McIntosh (although Black writers had written about it before and were not taken as seriously, being seen as whiny or, in earlier eras, "uppity"): http://www.nymbp.org/reference/WhitePrivilege.pdf
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"My schooling gave me no training in seeing myself as an oppressor, as an unfairly advantaged person or as a participant in a damaged culture. I was taught to see myself as an individual whose moral state depended on her individual moral will. My schooling followed the pattern my colleague Elizabeth Minnich has pointed out: whites are taught to think of their lives as morally neutral, normative, and average, and also ideal, so that when we work to benefit others, this is seen as work which will allow "them" to be more like "us.""
It goes on to describe numerous examples of ways in which she and her family receive advantages from society that they did not earn and that they'll get even if they don't want them, including these...
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"I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
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12. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race."


Similarly, if you're seen as male, you can be assured of seeing your gender represented fairly in the news and entertainment media, of not being ogled and catcalled everywhere you go, of not being suspected of having fucked your way into a high position (even if you're gay, and even if you have done so), of being taken seriously when you speak with confidence about sports, cars, technology (yes, "mansplaining" does regularly occur, in which male novices explain to female experts shit they learned long ago, and stuff like mistaking journalists and developers at tech events for "booth babes"), or all manner of other Serious Subjects, even if your expertise is lacking (and of having stereotypically male interests and careers deemed Serious while stereotypicaly female interests are "frivolous" and career fields are considered less important as they become more female-dominated), etc.; if you fuck up in some male-identified task, it'll be attributed to your own ability or the circumstances, rather than being attributed to your gender, and woe be unto you if you "let" yourself get shown up by "a girl" (even though as an adult you probably won't be called a "boy" unless you're Black and take a time machine to the 1980s or earlier).
Additionally, unless specified otherwise, nearly any fictional or hypothetical character is presumed male, and in gaming, there is usually just a token female whose personality is basically "female."

Similarly, if you're Protestant or Catholic in this country (oh, part of your privilege is that most people will think all Christians are one or the other even though there are plenty of denominations that are neither), your faith will be readily affirmed by the news and entertainment media (even though it may not display Christ-like morality, it's still overwhelmingly common to profess a belief in God and the salvation of Jesus), you will find plenty of people and institutions that respect your values, and nobody will look at you weird for claiming to be a Christian, entering or leaving a church, or asking for Sundays off.
Additionally, unless you somehow make it known (or your appearance fits some stereotype of a particular type of non-Christian, mainly a stereotype of Muslims), people in this country will presume you're a Christian and may even take offense when they find out you're not, applying stereotypes to you like the "angry atheist" or "Muslim terrorist" or "Buddhist hippie" (if you're not also visibly East or Southeast Asian), etc.

As yet another example, in this country, "people" usually means "Americans" (sometimes "American men") and "American" usually means "a Christian who speaks English natively and looks White, Black, or somewhere in between."

I'll close with more from that essay...
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"Power from unearned privilege can look like strength when it is in fact permission to escape or to dominate. But not all of the privileges on my list are inevitably damaging. Some, like the expectation that neighbors will be decent to you, or that your race will not count against you in court, should be the norm in a just society. Others, like the privilege to ignore less powerful people, distort the humanity of the holders as well as the ignored groups.
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One factor seems clear about all of the interlocking oppressions. They take both active forms
which we can see and embedded forms which as a member of the dominant group one is not taught to see. In my class and place, I did not see myself as a racist because I was taught to recognize racism only in individual acts of meanness by members of my group, never in the invisible systems conferring unsought racial dominance on my group from birth.
Disapproving of the systems won’t be enough to change them. I was taught to think that racism could end if white individuals changed their attitudes. (But) a "white" skin in the United States opens many doors for whites whether or not we approve of the way dominance has been conferred on us. Individual acts can palliate, but cannot end, these problems.
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The silences and denials surrounding privilege are the key political tool here. They keep the thinking about equality or equity incomplete, protecting unearned advantage and conferred dominance by making these taboo subjects."



TL;DR: "Privilege" isn't intellectually bankrupt, the right-wing caricature of it is (so is the Right itself but that's a major tangent); it also didn't just recently come out of the mouths of Social-Justice Warriors™ but has been a sociological term for decades.

12/30/2013 5:03:08 AM

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I didn't say it was recent, and I grant that sociologists have been using the term for a while. It's widespread use (as well as rampant misuse of the word oppression) is a product of social justice movements of the last 30 years.

I can admit that I personally have had advantages due to my outward appearance, and I'm certain there are many times when it has worked to my disadvantage. I'm not denying that these invisible systems exist.

I'm decrying the usage of privilege and oppression to describe these systems and make assumptions about people's individual experience....

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"The silences and denials surrounding privilege are the key political tool here. "


And also to stifle rational discourse about the topic. Either you accept it a priori or you're just blind to your privilege.

12/30/2013 9:01:30 AM

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This is something I posted about privilege on another thread:

Let's take the Boston bombing. One way to look at this is to say "this was a tragedy and we need to stop it". Another way is to say "recognize your privilege of not being bombed". The first conversation would lend itself to conversations around why the bombing happened, and what we can do to keep others from happening. The second would cause much stupider conversations like "Do you want everyone to be bombed?" or "But bombings happen other places too!" or "I didn't have anything to do with the bombing!". Do you see how one causes useful conversations and the other causes stupid ones? It's because one conversation focuses on the people involved in being bombed or doing the bombing. The other places the focus on some removed third party. It's like trying to put out a fire by cleaning away the soot.

Apparently the idea of privilege is taught as the cornerstone of all social interaction to anyone in any sort of soft-sciences class in college when it is actually navel-gazey at best and a complete derailment at worst.

12/30/2013 9:41:32 AM

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"Another way is to say "recognize your privilege of not being bombed"."
strawman

12/30/2013 3:46:01 PM

y0willy0
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303997604579240022857012920

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530741/Theres-no-room-MANLY-Controversial-feminist-writer-Camille-Paglia-speaks-against-loss-masculine-virtues-negative-impact-society.html

same article basically, but the 2nd one seems abbreviated

for those tl;dr types

12/30/2013 3:55:56 PM

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You're right, that renders my entire analogy useless, thanks for reading the first sentence!

12/30/2013 4:12:53 PM

dtownral
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he was just trying to give you an example of the second conversation

12/30/2013 4:16:16 PM

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AHA, I am a professional at unpacking the invisible knapsack of white privilege. I think I've been required to do it at least a half dozen times. I would like to win an award for it and thank God, my family, and Peggy McIntosh for holding my hand through the extraordinary challenge.

But I'm now the proud owner of Urban Armour band-aids--the medium shade goes best with my tan. So I have to cross that off my list of "insights" into white privilege. I'm going to need something fresh to demonstrate how thoughtful and evolved I am.

12/30/2013 5:24:49 PM

Supplanter
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Recently saw this being posted on facebook:

12/30/2013 6:24:48 PM

disco_stu
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Because idealization isn't about what consumers want, it's about what society wants you to want... You don't like what's in comics, make your own damned comic and see if people buy it.

12/30/2013 6:33:56 PM

AndyMac
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So basically she wants Batman to look more like Spiderman

12/30/2013 6:34:51 PM

aaronburro
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Set em up --------------->

12/30/2013 6:45:40 PM

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