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IMStoned420
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This is like the greatest idea ever...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28191199/

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"WILLMAR, Minn. - A 50-year-old man who told authorities he was fed up with teens toilet-papering his house decided to defend his property — with a squirt gun filled with fox urine.

Now, Scott Wagar is in trouble with the law.

Wagar pleaded not guilty on Wednesday in Kandiyohi County District Court to misdemeanor assault and other charges. He was released on personal recognizance."

12/12/2008 9:23:19 AM

wdprice3
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wtf. if they were on his property he could shoot them with a real gun. they're lucky he just shot them with piss. fucking stupid assholes.

12/12/2008 9:24:46 AM

seedless
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Damn he must be in good with the foxes in his hood. I hear fox piss is very valuable and very hard to get.

[Edited on December 12, 2008 at 9:25 AM. Reason : /]

12/12/2008 9:25:06 AM

jethromoore
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The parents probably called the cops and said:

"This old guy in our neighborhood just squirted piss on our teenager."

12/12/2008 9:49:30 AM

Arab13
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probably

12/12/2008 10:10:27 AM

moron
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haha

I wonder if any Foxes started following the kids around...

But, the guy shouldn't get in any trouble.

12/12/2008 10:15:16 AM

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"He was released on personal recognizance."


he will be fine, if there was anything here there would have been some money involved.

12/12/2008 10:17:46 AM

Wraith
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How does one go about acquiring fox urine?

12/12/2008 10:18:15 AM

moron
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^ http://www.google.com/products?q=fox%20urine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wf

12/12/2008 10:22:58 AM

KartRaceKid
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they sell it at Gander Mtn too.

12/12/2008 10:23:15 AM

jbrick83
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"if they were on his property he could shoot them with a real gun."


No he couldn't.

12/12/2008 10:30:53 AM

KartRaceKid
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rock salt shotgun shells ftw

12/12/2008 10:45:10 AM

chembob
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I think IMStoned is just jealous he didn't come up with this first in his plan to exact revenge on Walls/Big Business.

12/12/2008 10:56:46 AM

IRSeriousCat
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when do you gain the right to shoot someone who is illegally on your property. i know if they're on your door step you can shoot them.

12/12/2008 11:03:11 AM

XSMP
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clear and present threat to your life, even then it's dubious whether you have the right to shoot anyone.

12/12/2008 11:11:44 AM

simonn
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listen here, this is 'merica and i'll shoot whoever the fuck i want.

12/12/2008 11:13:26 AM

IRSeriousCat
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well my family is pretty close to this one cop and what he told us a while back is that if you need to shoot someone on your property they need to be on your doorstep or in the house. so maybe either one of those is enough to classify as clear and present threat.

12/12/2008 11:31:21 AM

NeuseRvrRat
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cop != judge

so stfu

12/12/2008 11:35:36 AM

IRSeriousCat
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judge!=who arrests you.

so, as it was so elegantly put

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so stfu
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12/12/2008 11:48:49 AM

IMStoned420
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If you shoot someone, you WILL get charged with something. They'll leave it up to the courts to decide innocence or guilt.

12/12/2008 11:51:00 AM

Seotaji
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"they need to be on your doorstep or in the house."


they need to leave evidence that they were trying to enter your house. otherwise the argument could be made that you killed an innocent.

nc has a screwed up definition of home defense. if someone is in your house without your permission at 3 am, you don't have a right to shoot them unless you are in imminent danger of your or your family's life. b.s. you have to ask mr. criminal, who was crazy enough to break into a occupied dwelling, if he has any intentions on hurting you. if they pick up your keys and your wallet and run out, you can't do anything about it.

12/12/2008 11:59:28 AM

jethromoore
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"§ 14-51.1. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder.

(a) A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence is justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry (i) if the occupant reasonably apprehends that the intruder may kill or inflict serious bodily harm to the occupant or others in the home or residence, or (ii) if the occupant reasonably believes that the intruder intends to commit a felony in the home or residence.

(b) A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence does not have a duty to retreat from an intruder in the circumstances described in this section.

(c) This section is not intended to repeal, expand, or limit any other defense that may exist under the common law. (1993 (Reg. Sess., 1994), c. 673, s. 1.)"


http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-51.1.html

12/12/2008 12:11:54 PM

chembob
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^this took place in Minnesota, so the laws might be a little different.

12/12/2008 12:13:09 PM

jethromoore
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Yea I was really just replying to
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"nc has a screwed up definition of home defense"


I dunno what's really screwed up with that law?

12/12/2008 12:14:33 PM

khcadwal
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yay another thread about defense of property

OMG YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT WHOEVER COMES ON YOUR PROPERTY? NO SPRING GUNS? WTF THIS ISNT TEXAS?

12/12/2008 12:17:13 PM

Jader
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nice, you mentioned texas.

i think you really can shoot people if they come onto your property in that state.

12/12/2008 12:22:45 PM

khcadwal
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well i mean, that really isn't shocking is it?

12/12/2008 12:42:53 PM

Ragged
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"Damn he must be in good with the foxes in his hood. I hear fox piss is very valuable and very hard to get.
"


you can buy it at dicks for a few bux

12/12/2008 12:52:00 PM

TKE-Teg
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why should it be? (with justified warning)

12/12/2008 12:52:30 PM

jethromoore
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Quote :
"you can buy get it at from dicks for a few bux"

12/12/2008 12:54:06 PM

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