Catch 22 Veteran 204 Posts user info edit post |
Could this work? Should professional sporting leagues require their athletes to have college degrees? I'm thinking of incidents where the league could be embarrassed or lose money as a result of something stupid and athlete did. Would it be smarter to cut out some of the marginal athletes in an attempt to make players have more common sense? I know athletes could still do stupid things but generally speaking college educated people are smarter than non-college educated people. Is it fair to argue that if an athlete can't graduate from college that they shouldn't be allowed to make millions of dollars? 12/15/2008 3:50:20 AM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
No. 12/15/2008 3:59:40 AM |
mdbncsu All American 4923 Posts user info edit post |
NO. One of the worst ideas ever. I'll let everyone else tell you why, they'll be by shortly to tell you what they think. 12/15/2008 4:01:41 AM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't want to say "Attn: Users with <5 posts" here, but the situation is dumb enough to warrant it.
Attn: Users with <5 posts 12/15/2008 4:03:17 AM |
Jax883 All American 5562 Posts user info edit post |
There is plenty of proof in the world that a college degree =/= smarter, better, or faster.
btw,
Quote : | " I'm thinking of incidents where the league could be embarrassed or lose money as a result of something stupid and athlete did. " |
You may wish to ponder the irony of your statement.
[Edited on December 15, 2008 at 4:18 AM. Reason : ibtl]12/15/2008 4:17:26 AM |
Catch 22 Veteran 204 Posts user info edit post |
it's late give me a break 12/15/2008 4:25:26 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is it fair to argue that if an athlete can't graduate from college that they shouldn't be allowed to make millions of dollars?" |
wow, this is a new level of stupidity for tww, and that's saying something.
btw, ask bill gates what he thinks of a degree prerequisite for making money.
[Edited on December 15, 2008 at 8:06 AM. Reason : .]12/15/2008 7:38:18 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "generally speaking college educated people are smarter than non-college educated people" |
while that may generally be true, the act of going to college has very little to do with making someone smarter
also, worst idea ever12/15/2008 7:42:16 AM |
exharrison All American 701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "generally speaking college educated people are smarter than non-college educated people." |
I believe you are trying to reverse causation there.12/15/2008 9:05:13 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
why? 12/15/2008 9:06:22 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62454 Posts user info edit post |
thats the catch 22 of TWW, a stupid new user 12/15/2008 9:37:19 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
No for the sole reason that it would make interviews with some of these borderline retards far less entertaining 12/15/2008 9:58:00 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, this is horrible, this idea 12/15/2008 10:14:07 AM |
humandrive All American 18286 Posts user info edit post |
I think we should make everyone go to and finish college. Since college graduates statistically earn more and are more successful. 12/15/2008 10:14:21 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
No
if they think they can play, let them; if they get their ass handed to them, well, its just filler for sportscenter 12/15/2008 10:16:20 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
I think you missed the point...
The likelihood of someone going straight from HS to the league is almost non-existent. I believe this asshat is arguing that a player needs a degree before he can be drafted. 12/15/2008 10:37:41 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
i honestly think i've gotten dumber since i went to college 12/15/2008 10:49:11 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The likelihood of someone going straight from HS to the league is almost non-existent." |
To which league? Lots of NHLers don't even go to proper high school.
Anyway, that's just me being hockey-centric again...but this thread is still stupid beyond belief.12/15/2008 11:22:10 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i honestly think i've gotten dumber since i went to college" |
true dat12/15/2008 11:29:57 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup, I know skills now, but my overall intelligence went down in college.
My peak was summer after senior year of HS.
and if you were a freshman in engineering, and some company came up to you and said "we know you just started, and dont have a degree, but we think you have SO much potential we will give you $25 million to come start now and learn on the job" everyone here would do it in a heartbeat 12/15/2008 11:33:41 AM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and if you were a freshman in engineering, and some company came up to you and said "we know you just started, and dont have a degree, but we think you have SO much potential we will give you $100,000 $25 million to come start now and learn on the job" everyone here would do it in a heartbeat" |
12/15/2008 11:39:17 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
I think it would be a good rule to have but I'm not going to protest for it. If they're good enough then it would be unfair to stop them. The reason I'd be in favor of the rule is to prevent kids from taking bad advice and going pro before they're ready...and they're out of the league, out of money, and don't have an education in 2 years. Thats the only logical argument for making people get an education before turning pro.
I will say, that I don't like the "ask Bill Gates how his college education worked for him" argument here, because examples like that (outside of sports) are few and far between. Sure, people are rich as fuck b/c their families have money and they're not required to have an education to take over the company, but you wouldn't go tell your kid "no sweat don't get an education, bill gates is rich as fuck and didn't even go to college"
The real change should be the 1 and done rule. I'd rather kids go pro straight out of high school if they're going to go, and the kids that decide to go to college should have to stay 3-4 years like in baseball. That way you give the kid the option, but at that point if they choose education, they get one instead of half assing it for one year then going pro anyway. 12/15/2008 11:52:22 AM |
Catch 22 Veteran 204 Posts user info edit post |
That's more along the lines I was thinking. These people are going to go into a profession where financial success is almost guaranteed. What's wrong with trying to make them a better rounded, more educated member of society? As soon as they get that first paycheck they're going to gain a lot of power and influence. It's good that they do stuff like make them work for charities and that's more of what I was going for. 12/15/2008 12:32:40 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "These people are going to go into a profession where financial success is almost guaranteed." |
most professional athletes would like to have a word with you.12/15/2008 12:35:14 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
the career of most pro athletes is short. making them do 4+ years of college could cut their professional career by 25-50% name me another career where this is a reality
and that doesn't even take into account what happens if you get injured in college 12/15/2008 12:38:22 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's wrong with trying to make them a better rounded, more educated member of society? " |
college degrees are not a guarantee this will be the case, nor are they the only way to achieve this level of development12/15/2008 12:46:20 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
If a kid can sign up to fight for a country in the military at 18 he damn sure should be allowed to put a ball through a hoop at the same age. 12/15/2008 1:51:54 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure this will win stupidest thread award in the tww espys. 12/15/2008 2:29:23 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "To which league? Lots of NHLers don't even go to proper high school." |
Yeah, I realize that. However, without trying to take anything away from hockey players, the level of athleticism required to play in the league is way beyond something that is achievable by the time you finish HS. Most true freshmen don't even play in college, and the ones that do are rarely physically or mentally capable of contending at the next level. I'm not saying it never happens, or that it never could happen, but most players aren't ready for the speed and strength even after a full college career, nevertheless after finishing HS.12/15/2008 6:10:29 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
This thread is retarded
Quote : | "the level of athleticism required to play in the league is way beyond something that is achievable by the time you finish HS." |
That's pretty much true for every sport, not just football
Athleticism is probably a poor word to use, but I know what you're trying to say. You don't increase your athleticism in college.
[Edited on December 15, 2008 at 6:19 PM. Reason : ]12/15/2008 6:17:31 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
really?
really? 12/15/2008 6:37:11 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
This seems like an obvious troll 12/15/2008 7:39:03 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
This is the worst thread ever. 12/15/2008 8:09:39 PM |
Hoffmaster 01110110111101 1139 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 15, 2008 at 9:01 PM. Reason : -]
12/15/2008 8:32:03 PM |
JohnnyBoy Veteran 449 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, this is horrible, this idea" |
lol12/16/2008 3:14:05 PM |