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pdrankin
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I don't think there is a person in the country who could logically debate Hansbrough's college dominance. As a non UNC fan, it has been almost sickening to watch him, for the most part score at will. The records he will set this season speak for themselves. When all is said and done, "Psycho T" will be considered to be on of the greatest college basketball players of all time. Maybe not as innovative as David Thompson, but he is "country strong".
That being said, he does not play beautiful basketball. While watching him play, some analyist will say, at least three times, "he isn't graceful, but he wills in it." His scoring records will stand for a long time, in an era where players are so eager to leave for the NBA. Hansbrough made the right choice to stay, he is getting a quality education at Chapel Hill and has a great chance at being a national champion. But what about next year, when he is undoubtedly drafted in the NBA.
As easily as we can all agree on Hansbrough's NCAA dominance, I think we can all equally agree that he will be mediocre at best in the NBA. In the league, work ethic and "will" do not make up for size and athleticism. He doesn't have the size to be a power forward and he doesn't have the speed or shooting to be a small forward. Kevin Love, who was highly touted at UCLA as the "Hansbrough-like" is finding his NBA experiance difficult, and he is an inch taller and about five pounds heavier than Hansbrough. Hansbrough, at 6'9/250 will be relagated to being either a Power Forward or a Small Forward, in the event the reader is unaware of his competition at these positions I will lay it out. I will not give weight and height for everyone.

Small Forwards- Lebron James 6'8/253 (if you think he can defend Lebron you might have a learning disability, and he certainly won't score on him)
Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony, Luoul Deng, Richard Jefferson, Josh Smith, Andrei Kirilenko, et al

I am aware, that no one is expecting Hansbrough to be a small forward, but that is where his size would best fit. He does, as they say, play bigger than his size, so he must be a power forward, but I think he will run into just as much trouble there.

Power Fowards- Kevin Garnett 6'11/255 (have fun scoring or defending this guy)
Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki,Chris Bosh,Carlos Boozer, Pau Gasol, Shawn Marion, Al Jefferson, Kenyon Martin et al

And just for fun, lets imagine Tyler as a Center.
Centers- Amare Stoudemire, Yao Ming, Dwight Howard, Greg Oden, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Shaq, Andrew Bynum et al.

I know that this list does not include all players at the postion, but it shows the type of player Hansbrough will have to defend and score on.

With all this factual evidence, I don't see how anyone can logically debate he will be amazing in the NBA. In no way will his flop of an NBA career reflect on the greatness of his NCAA legacy. Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon.

12/18/2008 2:34:16 PM

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you're about as bad as gunz

12/18/2008 2:34:47 PM

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lol

12/18/2008 2:37:07 PM

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I don't think he'll ever be a starter, I could see him being a 6th or 7th man though.

12/18/2008 2:37:33 PM

BigHitSunday
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MORE LIKE PEE DRANKIN

12/18/2008 2:39:02 PM

OhBoyeee
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hahaha

12/18/2008 2:40:48 PM

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I for the most part believe Hansbrough will make it in the NBA.

- I dont believe by any sort of the imagination he will ever be an all star.

- I dont think you will ever be able to compare him to any of the superstars

- I think you will be able to classify him as "a good NBA player"

My comparison for him is: DAVID LEE

I can see Hansbrough NBA career average being right at LEE's 9.5 ppg, 8.2 rpg

12/18/2008 2:41:25 PM

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"Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon."


he didn't fail in the nba because of lack of talent. afaik it was a drug/injury problem

12/18/2008 2:42:03 PM

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btw

David Lee 6-9/240

Hansbrough 6-9/250

12/18/2008 2:42:58 PM

OhBoyeee
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is he allowed to wear contacts in the NBA?

12/18/2008 2:45:31 PM

pdrankin
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Time will only tell. We could all be wrong, he could possibly end up the greatest player the NBA has ever known, but i just don't see him being that big an influence.

Also, i'm glad the pack actually managed to beat ECU this year. also, who's ready for birmingham? And as far as Pee drankin, i do it because it's sterile and i like the way it tastes

12/18/2008 2:50:44 PM

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Hansborough will probably be a decent play but his will is going to be an All-Star.

12/18/2008 2:51:31 PM

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what else do you drink that was produced by a penis?

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : c]

12/18/2008 2:51:32 PM

pdrankin
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i and know thompson didn't fail because of talent, i am well aware of his love of cocaine and injuries, but failure is failure.

12/18/2008 2:51:48 PM

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your shit is getting out of hand pee drinker

12/18/2008 2:52:17 PM

pdrankin
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such hostility on this board

12/18/2008 2:54:42 PM

Ernie
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A
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12/18/2008 2:55:12 PM

OhBoyeee
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i'll smack your kids, pee drinker

12/18/2008 2:59:10 PM

pdrankin
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haha

12/18/2008 2:59:53 PM

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aaaahahahahaha @ PEE DRANKIN

classic

that's some creative writing, there.

12/18/2008 3:00:50 PM

pdrankin
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i just figured we could all enjoy some UNC/Hansbrough hating. i was mistaken

12/18/2008 3:02:40 PM

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"Kevin Love, who was highly touted at UCLA as the "Hansbrough-like" is finding his NBA experiance difficult, and he is an inch taller and about five pounds heavier than Hansbrough."


Check how many double-doubles he has this year, and he's like 19. Have you ever seen Love run? I have never seen a slower big man.

haha, btw Love is 6'8" Mr. Pee Drankin

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:09 PM. Reason : s]

12/18/2008 3:04:02 PM

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I, too, hope Hansbrough sucks in the NBA.

I don't hold out much hope though. Have you ever seen him listen? IT'S INCREDIBLE.

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2008 3:07:37 PM

OhBoyeee
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I heard Hansborough loses his contacts when Roy pumps him hard up the pooper

12/18/2008 3:13:14 PM

pdrankin
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^^ohboyee ftw

12/18/2008 3:14:42 PM

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"My comparison for him is: DAVID LEE"


Lee is a ton more athletic than Hansbrough. I think he ends up being somewhere between Mark Madsen and Anderson Varejao.

12/18/2008 3:17:07 PM

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"In no way will his flop of an NBA career reflect on the greatness of his NCAA legacy. Just ask any Wolfpack fan about David Thomspon."


ABA/NBA highlights

* The Sporting News ABA Rookie of the Year (1976)
* ABA Rookie of the Year (1976)
* All-ABA (1976)
* MVP, 1976 ABA All-Star Game
* Competed in first ever slam dunk contest during half time of the 1976 ABA All-Star Game, eventually taking second to Julius Erving
* All-NBA First Team (1977, 1978)
* Four-time NBA All-Star
* MVP, 1979 NBA All-Star Game
* Only player in history named MVP of both the ABA and NBA All-Star Games
* Scored a career-high 73 points against Detroit (April 9, 1978)
* Scored a then-NBA record 32 points in the second quarter against Detroit Pistons, a record that was broken by George Gervin (33 against New Orleans Jazz on the same day ) when Gervin won the 1978 scoring title with a 63-point output
* The Nuggets retired his jersey number 33 (Nov. 2, 1992)
* Colorado Professional Athlete of the Year (1977)
* Scored 2,158 points (26.0 ppg) in the ABA
* Scored 11,264 points (22.1 ppg) in the NBA
* Atlanta's first pick in the 1975 NBA draft
* Virginia's first pick in the 1975 ABA draft

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ...]

12/18/2008 3:23:30 PM

Ernie
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aha

Yeah, Thompson was not a flop

12/18/2008 3:28:53 PM

dbmcknight
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unless by flop you mean god

12/18/2008 3:30:03 PM

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"if you think he can defend Lebron you might have a learning disability"


Obviously Hansdouche cannot guard anyone in the NBA, but who can really guard LeBron period. One on one he is unstoppable. Don't give me T. Prince shit either.




[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM. Reason : me]

12/18/2008 4:02:15 PM

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Better big man:

Hansbrough or Ditka?

12/18/2008 4:02:47 PM

OhBoyeee
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PTI supposed to do a piece on who will be better pro: Hansbrough vs Tebow

12/18/2008 4:20:09 PM

ItsNme
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Tebow

12/18/2008 4:49:46 PM

StateCole
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Will of Psycho T > Tebow

12/18/2008 4:59:32 PM

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he will be a career reserve...probably play 10-12 years and average 8 and 5...might peak a couple seasons and average 14 and 9...course it depends where he gets drafted...does a young team with little depth draft him, forcing him to play more minutes, and have better cumulative numbers...or does he go to a good team and get 8-10 minutes per game

12/18/2008 5:10:01 PM

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Was anyone watching the Pitt/Siena game last night? They must've spent ten minutes during the game pounding on Hansbrough, how he was NOT going to be much of an NBA player. We talk about it on here a lot but it was interesting seeing the talking heads actually do it...i've never heard it out of the mass media before

12/18/2008 5:16:51 PM

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He will have at least three incidents where he almost comes to blows with another player for going 110 percent in garbage time of a 30 point blowout

12/18/2008 5:17:33 PM

Erios
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worst thread title ever (that wasn't locked inside of 30 seconds...)

12/18/2008 5:24:50 PM

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"Obviously Hansdouche cannot guard anyone in the NBA, but who can really guard LeBron period. One on one he is unstoppable. Don't give me T. Prince shit either."


I know some one


hahahahah

JK

12/18/2008 5:35:07 PM

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Jordan would get schooled



He's what, 45?

12/18/2008 5:43:29 PM

vonjordan3
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look son, he weighs more now, he could do it

12/18/2008 5:44:32 PM

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jesus christ. seriously, i fucking ABHOR tyler hansbrough, and hate to even look at the fucker. but unless you are all fucking liars, you'll admit that if he played for State, you guys would be predicting how many Finals MVP trophies he would take home in the next 15 years.

srsly. for srs.

he's a great player, and in the NBA, he'll only get stronger, and like many guys who play as hard as him, he'll make himself up to par w/ the rest of the league. by no means do I think he'll be a star, but i can see him being a vital inside presence for a mid-level team. possibly starting by year 3.

12/18/2008 9:41:22 PM

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Really?

Are we predicting how many superbowl MVP's Russel Wilson will get?

Some people just don't translate their skills into the pros, Hansbro is a perfect example.

12/18/2008 9:49:22 PM

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Jason White won a Heisman and didn't do shit in the NFL

Hansbrough will do something in the NBA, but nothing like his collegiate accolades

12/18/2008 10:02:34 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3770906

holy shit,,, i mean the author of the article knows exactly WHY to hate hansborough, but then defends him to the fullest, suck suck suck, i cant take it... i cannot wait til this season is over and he leaves college basketball

12/18/2008 10:12:33 PM

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slave famous wins this thread.

I for one have been waiting for 3+ years to see someone cold cock him in the NBA when he shows his "will" during garbage time.

It is a moment that I will savor when it happens

12/18/2008 10:17:22 PM

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"He keeps swinging his nose into people's elbows. Of all the nerve! "I think he should shoot more," says his coach, Roy Williams. "People foul Tyler in ways that other coaches would want intentional fouls called. And he just keeps playing. Doesn't say boo to the refs.""


The idea that he gets fouled (real fouls, not called fouls) more often than other good big men is laughable.

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""They boo him," says his dad, Gene, an orthopedic surgeon. "They say he flops, they call him overrated, but if someone suddenly told these people, 'Hey, Tyler is going to play for you guys,' would they still hate him? I don't think so.""


Hey, thanks tyler's dad, for explaining competitive team sports for us.

12/18/2008 10:22:03 PM

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"Are we predicting how many superbowl MVP's Russel Wilson will get?"


of course, the first response is someone staying blatantly away from context.

Russell Wilson isn't the star of the lately perennial best college basketball team in the country (or football, respectively). His accolade is that he is a great young quarterback who played counter to a lot of completely awful ACC quarterbacks this year. not to devalue him, because i fucking love him, but I'm just saying. You can't really compare talk between him and a new UNC cover boy garnering National POY honors and such.

also, Russell Wilson is another mobile, smart QB with an average arm. if he wants to do ANYTHING in the nfl besides return kicks, he'll need to become a great passer.

(college football is less an indicator of professional success than is college basketball)

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM. Reason : dsfasfsdfadf]

12/18/2008 11:02:38 PM

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Can't stand the douche, and I think there is no way he is any sort of star or even top tier players.

However, he is going to be a guy willing to do what a lot of players in the NBA don't want to do, and teams need. He'll play big, rebound, push guys around, and be just a strong annoying body who can go in and bang around and give solid minutes. If he stays healthy he'll have a long NBA career even though he is undersized because the only way he will make it in the league is if he does those little things well.


I can already see the scenario now, where he goes to some team that lost in the conference finals, and gives them 18 minutes a game, 3 rebounds, 2 points, and they end up winning a championship. We'll have to hear how he and his "will" were the missing piece of the puzzle and how valuable his 18 minutes of heart and hustle were the difference. I just have a feeling this guy is going to make me sick to my stomach for the next 10-14 years.

12/18/2008 11:33:21 PM

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Nick Collison with less range.

12/18/2008 11:55:09 PM

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