Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I figured this would be a good thread to discuss the best players in college basketball. Will Hansdouche become the first player to come back and repeat since Ralph Sampson? Can Stephen Curry win NPOY despite being at tiny ol' Davidson? How about the do-everything great forward Blake Griffin. Can he win NPOY if he leads the Sooners to glory this year? Does Jodie Meeks 54 point record setting performance against Tennessee thrust him into the discussion?
Stats: Player - PPG APG 3P% RPG BPG SPG Hansbrough - 22.4 0.8 .250 7.5 0.4 1 Curry - 28.5 6.7 .361 4.1 0.3 3.1 Griffin - 22.4 2.5 .600 13.8 1.5 1.5 Meeks - 25.9 1.9 .444 3.6 0.1 1.5
National Points Per Game Leaders 1. S. Curry, Davidson 28.5 2. L. Hudson, UT-Martin 27.4 3. D. Holston, Chicago St 26.4 4. J. Meeks, Kentucky 25.9 5. L. Harangody, N Dame 24.8
National Rebounds Per Game Leaders 1. B. Griffin, Oklahoma 13.8 2. L. Harangody, N Dame 12.7 3. D. Blair, Pittsburgh 12.6 4. J. Bryant, Santa Clara 12.1 5. J. Hill, Arizona 12.0
National Assist Per Game Leaders 1. B. Young, E Carolina 7.8 2. A. Mitchell, Sam Houston 7.2 3. B. Woodside, ND State 7.1 4. J. Greene, Md Bal Co 6.9 5. J. Jenkins, CS Northridge 6.9
National Field Goal Percentage Leaders 1. K. Cunningham, Boise St 72.6 2. A. Onuaku, Syracuse 70.7 3. C. Elonu, Texas A&M 70.0 4. P. Patterson, Kentucky 69.4 5. S. Johannsen, N Arizona 68.4 1/14/2009 5:02:30 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
http://kenpom.com/leaders.php?c=FDper40 1/14/2009 5:04:30 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting 1/14/2009 10:25:59 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Curry averages three steals a game, impressive 1/15/2009 6:32:03 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
You forgot one stat...
National Trying Really Hard Leaders 1. Hansbrough 120% 1/15/2009 7:43:45 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Griffin or Curry most likely. 1/15/2009 8:32:00 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i really hope it's not Curry. sure, he's putting up good numbers, but by that rationale Drew Brees should have won the NFL MVP.
6 of Davidson's 12 wins are against lowly SoCo opponents and when they got their opportunity to play the big boys, they couldn't pull it out. their marquee win is 4-loss WVU
I think it should be Griffin
if I had a vote, McNeal would be a close second. but in reality, there's no chance in hell he'll get any consideration because that team is star studded with Matthews, Hayward and James.
then I'd vote Singler third
I'd vote James Harden dead fucking last! He is shitty and needs to come back for his junior year to prove he's a good player 1/15/2009 9:18:36 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then I'd vote Singler third
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bahaahhahaha1/15/2009 9:20:42 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
it's crazy, ain't it?
I hate Duke, yet I think they're going to finish the regular season #1 in the nation and he's the best player on the team and the best player on the team that finishes #1 in the nation usually gets some serious POY consideration 1/15/2009 9:28:35 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Curry can't help who he plays, he is a college athlete.
Look what he did against the good teams he played though. 40+ against us and Oklahoma. 1/15/2009 12:37:09 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
syntax error1/15/2009 12:39:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then I'd vote Singler third" |
Lol, did Bibeau steal your user name?
I would expect Duke to lose to both Wake and UNC each time they play. They aren't built to beat super athletic teams. They are very good, don't get me wrong, but they don't strike me as too much different than their last two teams.
The decreased playing time for Paulus and development of Henderson will make them better in the tournament, but I don't see them finishing the season #1 or making it to the Final 4 (Sweet 16 is where my money would be).
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I think you have to look at Luke Harangody seriously in this discussion. His numbers are pretty sick and ND NEEDS him to win...1/15/2009 1:20:05 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
1/15/2009 3:38:43 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
bttt. it looks like Griffin has pulled away from the pack. 2/22/2009 4:38:09 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
it would be great for the bobcats to win the lottery and grab griffin.
though, I can't imagine myself giving two shits about the bobcats... 2/22/2009 4:39:55 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
i always wished they would actually look at the most VALUABLE player not the best player on the best team. Teams can win for a number of reasons but the award should go to the player that is most important (like Curry, Griffin, McClinton, etc)
I disagree with it going to someone like Hansdouche just because unc is a top 5 caliber team 2/22/2009 5:17:05 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think hansbrough is even in the running at this point. griffin is a lock IMO 2/22/2009 5:33:49 PM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
^ Agreed. I don't even think Hansbrough will win ACC POY. 2/22/2009 6:00:58 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Who do you all think wins ACC POY? I mean there are still plenty of voters that don't pay attention as much as they should, and Hansbrough is the defending POY. It's not like he's having a bad year either. 2/22/2009 6:07:42 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i think LAwson is more valuable to unc than hansblo is 2/22/2009 6:08:29 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
McClinton might be the best player in the ACC... but his team kinda sucks, so I'll say it probably goes to Hansbrough, Lawson, or Teague if Wake finishes pretty decent. 2/22/2009 6:12:17 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
my earlyseason statement that deon thompson is better than hansbrough hasn't really come to fruition. 2/22/2009 6:13:15 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i'll scream bullshit if Hansbrough wins it
it really should be Teague or Lawson 2/22/2009 6:14:31 PM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think LAwson is more valuable to unc than hansblo is" |
No doubt about it.2/22/2009 6:16:38 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah without lawson we'd likely be middle of the pack in the acc, if not lower. i'm pretty nervous about next year honestly. 2/22/2009 8:12:45 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
WITH lawson, State would be top-5 in the nation 2/22/2009 8:33:14 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
so ncstatetke when are you going to make the case for Harden being NPOY?
don't take that as a jab. i'm just joking with ya. 2/22/2009 9:19:13 PM |
mrpink Veteran 442 Posts user info edit post |
i just realized the other night that griffin is a sophomore. what the hell was he doing last year and why was the media not riding his cock? 2/22/2009 11:11:30 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah without lawson we'd likely be middle of the pack in the acc, if not lower. i'm pretty nervous about next year honestly." |
you fucking unc homer2/22/2009 11:13:26 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^ he was doing really well, but the Big XII media were gushing over Beasley too much. plus Oklahoma wasn't nearly as good as they are now. they didn't have Willie Warren who is outstanding, also Austin Johnson has really matured this year. 2/23/2009 12:38:35 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
IMO hansbrough is the 3rd most valueable on their team behind lawson and danny green to be honest 2/23/2009 7:34:38 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ really guy? by speaking the truth i'm a homer? how the fuck does that work 2/23/2009 8:18:48 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
you are a fucking unc fan
thats what i meant
get the fuck outta here 2/23/2009 8:47:24 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
waaaaahhhh
i've only been here for 7 years now 2/23/2009 9:47:37 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^ really guy? by speaking the truth i'm a homer? how the fuck does that work" |
pretty easy
and who cares if you have been on here for 7 years, my orginal name is 9 years old, who cares2/23/2009 10:02:14 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
ya know i kind of expect this from n00bs, but you assholes know i rarely mention unc, and if i do its 99% impartial. insecure much? 2/23/2009 10:08:07 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
he wasn't even trolling, chill the fuck out 2/23/2009 10:08:15 AM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
How difficult is it to understand? If you say we in reference to a college team other than NC State then you're a homer. If you say we in reference to UNC then you're a UNC homer. Don't sit there and act like you didn't expect people to bitch about your UNC homerism. If you've been here 7 years then you know people are going to bitch so you were obviously trolling. So GTFO already. 2/23/2009 10:08:32 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
no i'm not obviously trolling, but i'm also not gonna pussyfoot around just because you people don't like where i went to school. its not like i said WE'RE AWESOME, YOU SUCK, RARR RARR 2/23/2009 10:12:49 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 23, 2009 at 10:22 AM. Reason : what is the fever you speak of?]
2/23/2009 10:14:59 AM |
jimmy123 Veteran 395 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Griffin or Curry" |
2/23/2009 10:25:00 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you say 'we' in reference to UNC then you're a UNC homer." |
That makes sense.2/23/2009 10:39:59 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
glad to see that other people got it 2/23/2009 10:50:36 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
2/23/2009 10:53:19 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
WTF man
2/23/2009 12:24:57 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's not me
^^ wow you posted a picture of me with roy williams and woody durham. obviously that means i can't express an intelligent, unbiased opinion
idiot 2/23/2009 12:29:34 PM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I know all 3 people in that picture. 2/23/2009 12:40:39 PM |
mrpink Veteran 442 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that you recognized the guy is woody durham is enough to take away your credibility 2/23/2009 1:21:50 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus you people are oversensitive.
It's clear this guy isn't trolling or being a homer in his post.
He said Lawson is the most valuable player on the team, what's homerish about that? 2/23/2009 2:08:38 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ wow you posted a picture of me with roy williams and woody durham. obviously that means i can't express an intelligent, unbiased opinion
idiot" |
hey man, I just wanted to know what the fever was about, you and roy do look like you are cupping each others butt though 2/23/2009 2:36:18 PM |