At what point have you crossed the line when having a party? My immediate neighbors are still in college and like to have parties on the weekend. Our landlord has strict rules against parties in his lease agreements but I never say anything because it is the weekend and I understand that's just what some college guys do. But the last couple of parties have lasted until 4am and involve standing on the roof of the building right outside bedroom window and dropping f-bombs, fights, the random beer can trash all over the building and parking lot downstairs and vomit all over the hallway, stairs, and some cars in the parking lot. Additionally I am tired of hearing one of the guys beating on his g/f of the month.

Is it time to tell the landlord and start calling the cops on these bastards?

2/4/2009 8:14:36 PM

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"BEATING MONTHLY GIRLFRIEND"

2/4/2009 8:15:50 PM

yes

2/4/2009 8:16:32 PM

call the cops, but tell them that someone is waving a gun around and threatening to shoot

that will get them there with the quickness

2/4/2009 8:16:35 PM

if the party has a lasting effect on other people's living environments, through vomit and litter, then it's fair game to bring the hammer down.

2/4/2009 8:16:54 PM

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"Our landlord has strict rules against parties in his lease agreements"

Absolutely irrelevant.

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"vomit all over the hallway, stairs, and some cars in the parking lot."

Might warrant a call to the landlord.

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"Additionally I am tired of hearing one of the guys beating on his g/f of the month."

Call them cops on them for this.

This has nothing to do with parties, and everything to do with the fact that these guys sound like grade A assholes.

2/4/2009 8:17:06 PM

people act like calling the cops is the end of the fucking world--it's not

it just lets you go to sleep before 4am

2/4/2009 8:17:48 PM

now seriously

does beating on gf of the month mean kicking her ass or screwing her head against the wall?

i mean, i assumed the second.. just checking.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM. Reason : nvm]

2/4/2009 8:19:01 PM

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"call the cops, but tell them that someone is waving a gun around and threatening to shoot that will get them there with the quickness"

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"Additionally I am tired of hearing one of the guys beating on his g/f of the month."

You should have called the cops ages ago if this is going on.

2/4/2009 8:19:06 PM

I called the police on a domestic disturbance with his last g/f. There arguments were trending in a progressively worse direction culminating when she found out that he was slepping with two other girls. At which point he was throwing her against the wall and said it was her fault. I also heard her punching him. In came the cops, I wasn't gonna stand for that shit.

His current g/f is still in the "giddy" stages and has not learned what an asshole he is yet. So they are not arguing. They will and if he touches her, then in come the cops again. I would love to go crack his skull but would rather not get too involved as any negative police report against me for battery for punching his face in would most likely cost me my job at the power plant.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 8:22 PM. Reason : afdfa]

2/4/2009 8:19:59 PM

Q: is it interrupting your quality or life/sleep?
if the ans is yes, then yes contact your landlord.

if its not don't...

just b/c they are college kids doesn't warrant the lack of respect to others.

2/4/2009 8:20:23 PM

that might be the smartest thing i've ever seen GoldenGirl post

2/4/2009 8:21:58 PM

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"standing on the roof of the building right outside bedroom window"

vaseline on the roof ftw.

2/4/2009 8:23:16 PM

you at robinson?

2/4/2009 8:25:09 PM

^^not a bad idea

^yes

2/4/2009 8:26:23 PM

i was down there one day last summer, but i was on the fossil side. during their major. was my first look at turbine guts

2/4/2009 8:27:41 PM

id probably call the cops on someone for putting vaseline on the roof of a building before i called the cops on someone for beating a girl.

thats just me though

2/4/2009 8:29:28 PM

robinson as in the progress energy plant?

i, too, have been there.

2/4/2009 8:29:37 PM

someone on a roof with buckets of petro' jelly = potential for hilarity

2/4/2009 8:38:23 PM

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"Our landlord has strict rules against parties in his lease agreements"

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"Absolutely irrelevant. "

Please explain this to me?

2/4/2009 8:45:14 PM

i think clauses like that are illegal in lease agreements

a lot of landlords put in things that they aren't allowed to and you don't have to adhere to

2/4/2009 8:47:07 PM

Landlords can put whatever they like into their leases, regardless of legality. Especially around state, they like to.

Doesn't make it any more legal or enforceable just because it's in the lease. State law > lease agreement

2/4/2009 8:48:21 PM

that's what i was trying to say. ambrosia explained it better. better choice of words.

2/4/2009 8:49:33 PM

they do it b/c most college kids don't know the first thing about real estate law (enter captain obvious).

most folks just adhere to it out of fear.

2/4/2009 8:49:53 PM

so, if I get this right, a signed contract between two parties is not a binding document in this case? How does the owner establishing the criteria for the renter's use of the property in exchange for monetary compensation infringe on their rights?


this perplexes me.

2/4/2009 8:50:13 PM

imagine a contract that you wrote i signed saying "if you shoot me with that gun it isn't murder"

...still illegal.

2/4/2009 8:50:57 PM

^^that's why they do it

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 8:51 PM. Reason : most folks are unaware]

2/4/2009 8:51:11 PM

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"so, if I get this right, a signed contract between two parties is not a binding document in this case."

When the law enumerates what restrictions landlords can and can't impose on their tenants, correct.

2/4/2009 8:51:14 PM

call the cops on the douchebags

2/4/2009 8:52:38 PM

call the cops on the douchebags

2/4/2009 8:53:10 PM

i don't think nc law guarantees the right to have parties...

2/4/2009 8:53:43 PM

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"i don't think nc law guarantees the right to have parties..."

No, but it basically limits what landlords can and can't enforce, and outlines the lease. As far as rental law goes, NC's is very renter friendly. Might have something to do with the state's military population

2/4/2009 8:54:51 PM

does that mean you gotta fight for your right to party?

2/4/2009 8:55:21 PM

i think you're reading more into it than is actually there

2/4/2009 8:55:55 PM

most laws regarding parties, i.e. sound ordinances, are on a county by county basis. However, they are all pretty clear in the fact that if the party is disrupting your ability to enjoy the peace of your domicile, then it is unlawful

2/4/2009 8:55:57 PM

^^^, ^^Pretty much.

And whether or not the law specifically addresses behaviors like partying wrt leases...what's the landlord going to do?
Up the rent? Nope, can't do that.
Evict the tenant? Not on those grounds.
Keep the security deposit? Only if it's justified, or they don't fight.

^and that's what's more relevant than some bull the landlord has included in the lease.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 8:56 PM. Reason : ldfj]

2/4/2009 8:56:30 PM

in other words, call the cops not your landlord

2/4/2009 8:56:54 PM

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"Evict the tenant? Not on those grounds"

you can be evicted for something (with the exception of a very few things) if the lease says you can be evicted for it

2/4/2009 8:59:29 PM

you'd be surprised how weak leases are when it comes to landlord rights. Eviction is expensive

2/4/2009 9:00:37 PM

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"you can be evicted for something (with the exception of a very few things) if the lease says you can be evicted for it"

O rly?

I'm looking it up right now, and I hate legalese, but that makes no sense.
Were that the case, if it's in the lease, your landlord could evict you for wearing purple

And no matter the case, the landlord has to go before a judge to get your ass evicted. That right there cuts down on a good number of frivolous things.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ljd]

2/4/2009 9:03:32 PM

and the cost of eviction

2/4/2009 9:05:30 PM

http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/lamp/cle/1105_Rowe_LandlordHandout.pdf

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM. Reason : section VI (B)]

2/4/2009 9:06:55 PM

As I'm reading, I find that landlords can evict for any criminal activity that 'threatens the health, safety, or right of peaceful enjoyment of the entire premises'


And while this fella's behavior does sound criminal...'no parties is agreed upon in the lease' isn't necessarily true.
^that's what I'm reading


VI B...I have always missed that.
However, unless the landlord lists that in the lease as something punishable by eviction, no, he can't.
i.e.,
[list of prohibited actions] punishable by eviction: can evict
[these things are prohiibited]: can't evict.

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 9:10 PM. Reason : lkjf]

[Edited on February 4, 2009 at 9:11 PM. Reason : dlfk]

2/4/2009 9:07:05 PM