Now as a hunter it kind of annoys me when people say this. But a friend the other day had a reason that gave me a little chuckle. She said part of the qualification to be a sport is all participants know they are involved. The deer just wakes up for the day to do deer things and ends up getting shot.

I still think hunting is a sport but her reasoning was at least creative. Which also leads me to believe she probably stole the line from someone because she is not a very creative person.

2/7/2009 7:03:55 PM

2/7/2009 7:05:06 PM

new

2/7/2009 7:05:41 PM

for '32!

2/7/2009 7:06:10 PM

i know that they call hunters sportsmen and such, but you really can't make an argument that hunting is a sport of any kind.

playing halo is more of a sport than hunting.

2/7/2009 7:10:25 PM

you don't appear to have made an argument of any kind that it is not a sport.

2/7/2009 7:16:47 PM

Quote :

"The deer just wakes up for the day to do deer things and ends up getting shot."

at least on opening day.

2/7/2009 7:19:49 PM

^^ it has zero qualities that would make it a sport. i don't even know where to begin.

2/7/2009 7:21:10 PM

i could almost qualify bow hunting almost as a sport. hunting with any sort of gun is not in any way a spot. sitting still, pointing in the right direction and pulling a trigger.. hardly a sport

2/7/2009 7:22:19 PM

Even the Predator won't touch you unless you pick up a weapon.

2/7/2009 8:07:03 PM

sport /sp?rt, spo?rt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


Oh look. I guess it is a sport.

Well that solves this argument.

2/7/2009 8:11:09 PM

that definition contradicts itself, and i declare it non-valid.

2/7/2009 8:39:55 PM

sport |spôrt|
noun
1 an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment : team sports such as baseball and soccer | [as adj. ] ( sports) a sports center.
• dated entertainment; fun : it was considered great sport to trip him up.
• archaic a source of amusement or entertainment : I do not wish to show myself the sport of a man like Williams.
2 informal a person who behaves in a good or specified way in response to teasing, defeat, or a similarly trying situation : go on, be a sport! | Angela's a bad sport.
3 Biology an animal or plant showing abnormal or striking variation from the parent type, esp. in form or color, as a result of spontaneous mutation.
verb
1 [ trans. ] wear or display (a distinctive or noticeable item) : he was sporting a huge handlebar mustache.
2 [ intrans. ] amuse oneself or play in a lively, energetic way : the children sported in the water.
PHRASES
in sport for fun : I have assumed the name was given more or less in sport.
make sport of dated make fun of.
the sport of kings horse racing.

2/7/2009 8:47:02 PM

If hunting is a sport, then so is sex.

2/8/2009 12:28:05 PM

sir perhaps you arent familiar with sport fucking

2/8/2009 12:29:06 PM

any sport where a 70 year old man can "win" isnt a "real sport"

this includes such things as bowling, golf, hunting, and NASCAR (old men cant win Indy car races)

2/8/2009 12:29:50 PM

hey, it's that thread

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM. Reason : it's like people need to call their pastime a "sport" in order to validate it]

2/8/2009 12:30:36 PM

You know what I consider a sport?

Something the fucking dictionary defines as a sport.

2/8/2009 12:31:28 PM

cause if theres one peoples opinion i would trust about the world of sports, its some bookworm who compiles definitions for dictionaries...they were probably a great athlete in their day

2/8/2009 12:32:34 PM

^^^ al unser sr won the indy 500 at 47....

2/8/2009 12:32:42 PM

i try not to let the dictionary do my thinking for me

2/8/2009 12:32:59 PM

^^is he the oldest person to win an open wheel race?

you cant really deny that you need sharper reflexes for open wheel racing than you do in nascar, where you do have 60+ year old drivers winning races

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 12:33:17 PM

Ok well if you are discrediting the only objective standard we have to evaluate this "argument" then what's the point

2/8/2009 12:34:15 PM

idk just one of the random bit of trivia stuck in my head

2/8/2009 12:34:16 PM

Quote :

"then what's the point"

exactly

2/8/2009 12:34:58 PM

^^^because people are always going to debate whats a sport and whats just a competitive game, who are the best athletes, etc

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 12:34:59 PM

When is the last time a 70 year old man has won a NASCAR race or a real (not senior tour) golf tournament?

2/8/2009 12:35:16 PM

Quote :

"any sport where a 70 year old man can "win" isnt a "real sport""

two 70 year old men can 1 on 1 basketball, does that mean they aren't playing a sport?

2/8/2009 12:35:18 PM

^pro sport

^^i guess i thought mark martin was as old as he looks, he's only 50???? and yeah old guys dont really win golf tourneys, but come on, golf isnt a "real sport" like basketball or boxing...when fat ass john daly can win a tournament, or 50 year old mark martin can beat a bunch of "athletes" in their 20s...in NASCAR, the cars are the athletes

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 12:36:52 PM

so one definition says it has to involve skill AND physical exertion, the other says it has to involve skill OR physical prowess.

if we go with or... many things could become sports.

such as essay writing, taking the SAT, having sex, etc, as long as they are done competitively in a group.

2/8/2009 12:37:39 PM

Congratulations on shooting animals in their natural habitat when you probably live right next to a food lion. Hope you continue winning your sport.

2/8/2009 12:38:07 PM

treetrolla

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM. Reason : you're the only one that you are screwin, when you put down what you dont' understand]

2/8/2009 12:38:47 PM

yeah we should let overcrowded deer populations die the natural way, by running out in front of our cars

^if thats what you want to call taking the most rational look at sports of anyone in this thread, so be it

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 12:39:09 PM

no, we should take them into captivity and breed them to die, like everything else

2/8/2009 12:40:08 PM

p.s. hunting is most definitely not a sport... saying it is a sport is fucking stupid.

eating is a sport too!!! http://www.ifoce.com


[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ]

2/8/2009 12:40:11 PM

it really makes you more of a man if you shoot animals.

2/8/2009 12:47:12 PM

it really makes a bear more of a bear when it mauls a human

2/8/2009 12:52:37 PM

it really shows that you are not a faggot if you are able to shoot animals.

2/8/2009 1:07:44 PM

it really shows that you are not a faggot if you are able to shoot animals.

2/8/2009 1:15:34 PM

what's the problem?

if you don't like hunting, then don't do it

if you do like hunting, then go hunting when it's 'in season'

2/8/2009 1:18:40 PM

i think the problem is murdering innocent animals to prove that you are not a faggot.

2/8/2009 1:25:53 PM

it's much more humane when they're killed by the hands of someone else in a slaughter plant

2/8/2009 1:26:50 PM

or when they're killed by other animals

2/8/2009 1:27:52 PM

or when they're nailed by a honda at 65 mph

2/8/2009 1:28:48 PM

Quote :

"Ok well if you are discrediting the only objective standard we have to evaluate this "argument" then what's the point"

Quote :

""then what's the point"....exactly"

Um, duh.
...to establish a new and different "objective standard"
Why would you think such a discourse is pointless?

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"I try not to let the dictionary do my thinking for me"

Exactly.

Quote :

"what's the problem?"

No problem. Why does there have to be a problem?
People are simply discussing the issue of whether or not hunting is a "sport"....

Quote :

"i think the problem is murdering innocent animals to prove that you are not a faggot."

While I agree that hunters of that variety are a problem, certainly not all hunters are like that.

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM. Reason : ]

2/8/2009 1:31:15 PM

i just like sitting in the woods and shooting guns. if i can get some tasty meat out of it, might as well.

2/8/2009 1:32:56 PM

its the same things as when one talks about a 'sporting' chance. When SPORT hunting, rather than commercial game gathering, you have restricted seasons, and MANY restrictions on how and when you may TRY to take an animal during that season. These limits exists above and beyond the daily and season bag limits, and are in place to make it more INTERESTING, and to require more SKILL.
'Sporting' clays, and hunting as a sport existed LONG before 90% or mroe fo the so called 'sorts' most people list.

Maybe if one were to look at the fact that hunting is a event where one goes tot he woods, or field, or lake, or swamp, or river, and hunts GAME animals, and may or may NOT actually kill anything.
And the fact that for the best of us, while we ENJOY the hell out of wild game well cooked or grilled, the fun is int he chase. If i just wanted deer, i would get some, raise them, and pop them in the head with a mallet when i wanted deer. I want to go sit in the woods, set scent lures, and enjoy the fact that I never know if I will see a deer or not. Hell, nothing like going out for geese the day after duck season and seeing thousands of ducks. That after a week of duck hunts had yielded maybe 2-3 ducks per hunter for the week, with them ignoring the decoy spreads.

Its a pastime I enjoy, its a hobby, and by LONG standing definition, its a SPORT. We compete not against 'poor little animals', but against each other. Who can get that big buck for the year with 1 well aimed shot? who can fill a freezer with low cost meat, low fat, fine grained, while still getting to spend weekends in the woods with friends?

2/8/2009 1:37:14 PM

Sometimes it's a competition of which duck hunter in the blind or dove hunter in a field hits their limit first. I enjoy shooting sporting clays with my dad for the same reason.

2/8/2009 1:44:51 PM

i like shooting clay pigeons too but when i think of a sport, i think of something where you have to run and do athletic things

football, baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, rugby, tennis, etc

[Edited on February 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2009 1:46:19 PM

how did you manage to lump baseball in with those other sports? I exert more athletic ability climbing into a duck blind with chest waders on than many baseball players do.

2/8/2009 1:52:52 PM