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terpball
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2/11/2009 10:59:32 AM

icanread2
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no more condoms!

2/11/2009 11:00:12 AM

hershculez
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No, seeing a picture of Kiwi's tits gives you ball cancer.

2/11/2009 11:03:32 AM

Jax883
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only if you got a nut that hasn't dropped

2/11/2009 11:04:12 AM

Ronny
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What?

2/11/2009 11:07:23 AM

dyne
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el oh el at this thread so far.

2/11/2009 11:24:30 AM

ReceiveDeath
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well I'm fucked

2/11/2009 11:24:47 AM

Stimwalt
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I don't believe it. Cognitive dissonance has commenced. Seriously though, double-blind that shit. I read the other day that fapping too much increases prostate cancer risk too.

COOOMBBBOOOO CANCER

2/11/2009 11:26:24 AM

hershculez
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the oh the at this thread so far.

2/11/2009 11:27:06 AM

jethromoore
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so much for trippin' balls

2/11/2009 11:27:43 AM

terpball
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7869709.stm

Quote :
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Marijuana testicular cancer link
Woman smoking
Regular smoking was linked to the most aggressive form

Frequent or long-term marijuana use may raise a man's risk of testicular cancer, American research suggests.

The study of 369 men, published in the journal Cancer, found being a regular marijuana user doubled the risk compared to those who never smoked it.

The results suggest that it may be linked to the most aggressive form of the cancer.

A spokesman for Cancer Research UK said that no previous studies had found a link between marijuana and the disease.


What young men should know is first, we know very little about the long-term health consequences of marijuana smoking, especially heavy marijuana smoking
Dr Stephen Schwartz
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Institute

Testicular cancer is one of the most common cancers in younger men, with approximately 2,000 new cases each year in the UK.

Incidence in Europe and North America is far higher than in some other parts of the world, and has been rising steadily for no apparent reason.

Known risk factors for the cancer include previous injuries to the testicles, a family history of the disease, or suffering from undescended testicles as a young child.

The study from scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle is the first to look specifically at marijuana use in relation to the disease.

They studied 369 men aged 18 to 44, who had been diagnosed with testicular cancer, and quizzed them about marijuana use.

Their replies were compared to those from almost 1,000 apparently healthy control subjects.

Even after adjusting the figures to take account of the other known risk factors, marijuana use remained a clear risk factor for testicular cancer.

Just being a marijuana smoker seemed to carry a 70% extra risk, while those who smoked it regularly, or had smoked from an early age, had twice the risk compared to those who had never smoked it.

A connection was made to nonseminoma, a fast-growing form of testicular cancer which accounts for approximately 40% of all cases, and tends to strike younger.

Puberty chance

Dr Janet Daling, one of the authors, said that puberty might be a "window of opportunity" during which boys were more vulnerable to environmental factors such as the chemicals in marijuana.

Testicular cancer
Testicular cancer is usually easily treated
"This is consistent with the study's findings that the elevated risk of nonseminoma-type testicular cancer in particular was associated with marijuana use prior to 18," she said.

Another research, Dr Stephen Schwartz, said: "What young men should know is first, we know very little about the long-term health consequences of marijuana smoking, especially heavy marijuana smoking, and second, our study provides some evidence that testicular cancer could be one adverse consequence."

The next step, he said, would be to look more closely at cells in the testicles to see if any of them had receptors set up to respond to cannabis chemicals.

Henry Scowcroft, from Cancer Research UK, said: "As the researchers themselves point out, this is the first inkling that there is any association between chronic marijuana use and testicular cancer.

"But the researchers only interviewed a relatively small number of men.

"So before we can reach any firm conclusions about whether this is a cause-and-effect relationship, rather than a statistical blip, the result needs to be replicated in a much larger study." "

2/11/2009 11:41:47 AM

Willy Nilly
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Why the fuck would you even start this stupid thread?



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"may....not definitive...."
I hate that these so-called studies see the light of day. the only studies worth anything are 100% scientific and 100% logical (large sample, double-blind, randomized, etc.)

I mean, recently pot-smoking was linked to cavities. OH NO, WEED SMOKE HURTS YOUR TEETH....No. It's just that many pot-smokers pass out nightly neglecting to brush. It's just a correlation. Simple responsibility (as always,) will remedy the situation.

Furthermore, studies that look at current pot use, are looking at pot use in the context of pot prohibition. Because it's illegal, there's no quality control -- the pot being smoked in these studies could have dust, hair, fertilizer residue, who knows? Plus, lighters often used to smoke pot emit nasty chemicals. Joint papers could have questionable inks or glue. In other words, the studies aren't looking at pot-smoking as it would exist were it legal and people were being responsible. Instead, it's looking at illicit pot-smoking and all of the negative effects that prohibition bring.

Don't believe the conclusions of studies unless they actually have meaningful conclusions."


[Edited on February 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM. Reason : you can't nest quotes? wtf?]

2/11/2009 11:48:19 AM

Prawn Star
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^ I've never seen you posting that shit when potheads claim a bunch of nonsense about how cannibis helps cure cancer.

2/11/2009 11:51:40 AM

wdprice3
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^that would not be conducive to his pro-pothead stance

2/11/2009 11:55:47 AM

Willy Nilly
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^
^^

Lying ≠ not volunteering the truth



Quote :
"when potheads claim a bunch of nonsense about how cannibis helps cure cancer"
Not to say that it doesn't....

[Edited on February 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ]

2/11/2009 12:08:03 PM

erice85
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SHIIIIIIT

Willy Nilly is probably puffin right now

he aint got no cancers

2/11/2009 12:16:52 PM

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as they point out, the sample size is small, only a very tiny number of users are affected, and at our age it doesn't matter.

Quote :
"The testes have receptors for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main psychoactive ingredient in cannabis, and the male reproductive system is known to naturally produce a cannabinoid-like chemical that is thought to protect against the disease.

The researchers speculate that cannabis may interfere with this anti-tumour effect, increasing the risk of the cancer developing.

Janet Daling, a member of the research team, said: "It has been suggested that puberty is a window of opportunity during which lifestyle or environmental factors can increase the risk of testicular cancer. This is consistent with the study's findings that the elevated risk of nonseminoma-type testicular cancer in particular was associated with marijuana use prior to age 18.""


Quote :
"when potheads claim a bunch of nonsense about how cannibis helps cure cancer"

*ahem*
http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/marijuana-ingredient-cuts-lung-cancer-growth-spread-18538.html
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"The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.

They say this is the first set of experiments to show that the compound, Delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), inhibits EGF-induced growth and migration in epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) expressing non-small cell lung cancer cell lines. Lung cancers that over-express EGFR are usually highly aggressive and resistant to chemotherapy.

THC that targets cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 is similar in function to endocannabinoids, which are cannabinoids that are naturally produced in the body and activate these receptors. The researchers suggest that THC or other designer agents that activate these receptors might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer."


So unless you're under 18, there's little to no risk, and if you started before 18, it's too late to worry about it anyway.
Also, as they point out, the risk is to a very minute percentage of users in the first place.

So, to review, IF this is even true, it applies to a very small percentage of young men who were already at risk for testicular cancer for other reasons who started smoking before age 18.

[Edited on February 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM. Reason : ,]

2/11/2009 1:14:44 PM

Mulva
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correlation is not causation

2/11/2009 3:28:42 PM

lmnop
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maybe ball cancer gets you high!

2/11/2009 3:30:57 PM

terpball
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Thanks for pointing out that those 2 words are not the same word

Anyway... they went into the causation...

I'm not saying they defined the causation, but they are exploring it

2/11/2009 3:33:09 PM

Stimwalt
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So if someone was to smoke the balls of a pothead, would that cure the cancer?

Discuss.

2/11/2009 3:34:41 PM

Mulva
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You don't make a scientific claim based on a 400 person survey. But here's another load of horseshit courtesy of Terbpall

2/11/2009 3:40:29 PM

terpball
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Quote :
"You don't make a scientific claim based on a 400 person survey."


waaa waaaa waaaaa - shut the fuck up you fuckin pussy

2/11/2009 3:44:28 PM

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