dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4014188
Discuss
3/25/2009 10:50:14 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
violations for a guy they kicked off the team before he even played a game for them? let's give them the equivalent of the SMU death penalty 3/25/2009 10:56:20 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
*awaits nym vs. jaybee rumble* 3/25/2009 10:57:01 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, it was stupid for Tom Moore to do that. He knows better and even though he isn't with the program anymore it reflects bad on UConn.
It's a secondary violation at worst and a minor infraction. As far as agent involvement, it reminds me a bit of all the Myron Piggie hassle for UNC/Duke and nothing every came of that.
[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM. Reason : x] 3/25/2009 10:59:37 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "phone records show UConn coaches made thousands of phone calls and text messages to Nochimson over the next two years" |
jesus fucking christ
assuming "thousands" is at minimum "2,000", thats almost hitting the dude up 3 times a day, every day, for 2 straight years3/25/2009 11:08:04 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
coaches should be given one special cell phone with a certain plan that only allows a certain number of texts to be used, instead of an unlimited plan
or at least be required to turn in phone records to some regulatory figure with the NCAA 3/25/2009 11:11:14 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
3/25/2009 11:11:44 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
good lord... espn just needs something new to talk about
everyone does this... move along 3/25/2009 11:12:17 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
FYI, there was no NCAA regulation on the amount of texts you can send to a recruit or his family during this time period until late 2007, after this happened. Just phone calls. That's why I'm a bit confused about the article and how they combined them.
^ yeah, on the UConn scout.com board the "insiders" who have a great track record say that there is literally no worries from the Athletic Department about this. It's a slap on the wrist violation at worst, and Calhoun pretty much had no involvement. He made 16 calls over TWO YEARS...
[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM. Reason : x] 3/25/2009 11:13:49 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
if it wasn't illegal, then alright, but at least we can laugh at them being on this guys nuts so hard 3/25/2009 11:15:27 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
now... i think we can all agree if NC State was found to do this
Death Penalty or at least one year probation 3/25/2009 11:18:54 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Ha. Yeah, they'd just shut down the university.
The agent part is what would have scared me the most if Miles actually every played because by rule, if you have a player who is ineligible (as he would have been) you have to vacate your wins whether the program or head coach know about it or not unless you have Corey Maggette on your team and a Polish head coach
^^ honestly, though... he's nasty. 6'6" shooting guard who has an amazing stroke from 25 feet in. He'd have made UConn the run away favorite this year.
[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM. Reason : x] 3/25/2009 11:21:15 AM |
GuinnessRC4 All American 607 Posts user info edit post |
How convenient.... Uconn sweet 16.... allegations.... why does this always happen mid season, during playoffs, or when the team/player is in the news for good stuff.... ESPN has ruined sports 3/25/2009 11:24:19 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
luckily i dont watch ESPN so i can continue not giving a shit
seriously, it long ago has went from Sports Broadcasting to fuckin E! SPN with all the stupid fuckin shit they talk about and how these marginal athletes are celebritized, the dick riding, the poor attempts at comedy
dude fuck them, i get my sports news from the freakin regular news 3/25/2009 11:54:06 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
yea right 3/25/2009 12:03:42 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
ha i really dont
as u guys can probably tell i dont keep up too well with sports news, i dont even know who is still in the NCAA tournament
i usually hear espn in the background after watchin some kind of game and it done went off 3/25/2009 12:21:04 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
you dont watch sportscenter
you still watch espn 3/25/2009 12:37:04 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
yea if you wanna split hairs, but really, when is sportcenter NOT on 3/25/2009 12:38:09 PM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
hahahah, awesome, i hope they go into the shitter 3/26/2009 10:35:56 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The violations are akin to those that Roy Williams had at Kansas. Likely 3 years probation and a reduction by one scholarship over that time... If you seriously read that and think that the NCAA is going to throw the book at one of its ten most important basketball schools you're crazy...
[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM. Reason : this is peanuts compared to the rosenhaus/miami connection or sc football] 3/26/2009 10:41:15 AM |
vonjordan3 AIR 43669 Posts user info edit post |
but it would be awesome if they did 3/26/2009 10:55:24 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Bump.
http://borgesblognhr.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-weve-learned.html
http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/052810aaa.html
-Impermissible phone calls and text messages to prospective student-athletes; -Impermissible benefits provided to a prospective student-athlete by a representative of the institution's athletic interests; -Impermissible benefit to a prospective student-athlete by a member of the basketball staff; -Allegations against two (2) members of the basketball staff for providing false and misleading information to the NCAA Enforcement staff and to the institution; -Providing impermissible complimentary admissions or discretionary tickets;
**** that is the meat of it. Nothing too damning. The "representative" of the institution is some random agent who was a waterboy in like 2000. Still don't like to see that if you're a UConn fan like me. No postseason ban but probably a small recruiting limitation (loss of one scholly maybe but more likely less road travel for an assistant) ] 5/28/2010 10:10:55 AM |
Namwob All American 568 Posts user info edit post |
Uconn just got mazzoned. 5/28/2010 2:32:31 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
now let's hope they get munsoned 5/28/2010 2:41:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Finally ruling today -- sources saying no postseason ban. 2/22/2011 2:05:56 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
2/22/2011 2:14:19 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Calhoun suspended for 3 BE games 2/22/2011 3:42:28 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""We think the penalty is appropriate," said Dennis Thomas, chairman of the Committee on Infractions, said Tuesday. "The head coach should be aware, but, also in the same frame, the head coach obviously cannot be aware of everything that goes on within the program. However, the head coach bears that responsibility."" |
on one hand, the coach is at fault, but on the other, he's not. however, he's getting punished regardless. i get what they're saying, but it's worded horribly2/22/2011 4:18:06 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
another in a long line of horribly bad punishments passed down by the NCAA lately (yes, I'm including the Ohio State ruling too). The coach preaches responsibility to everyone from his assistants to the parents of kids he's recruiting, yet when its time for him to accept responsibility for the actions of people underneath him he is able to plead ignorance and get off with a slap on the wrist.
the one glaring connection between all of the latest NCAA violations from UCONN, to OSU, to Cam Newton, to UNC, to Bruce Pearl etc. etc. is that when you say you were unaware of things you are supposed to be aware of, the NCAA will let you off of the hook. Terrible precedent, and once again the ncaa proves it has absolutely no backbone 2/22/2011 5:08:43 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
head coaches are like mob bosses... they insulate themselves from activities going on beneath them. 2/22/2011 5:13:02 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
heard on the radio it's a 3 game conference game ban next season and 3 years probation with no postseason ban 2/22/2011 5:29:40 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Post season ban is the only way to send a message, especially in basketball.
In football, its one game. In basketball, its a whole month. 2/22/2011 5:32:11 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the one glaring connection between all of the latest NCAA violations from UCONN, to OSU, to Cam Newton, to UNC, to Bruce Pearl etc. etc. is that when you say you were unaware of things you are supposed to be aware of, the NCAA will let you off of the hook. Terrible precedent, and once again the ncaa proves it has absolutely no backbone" |
Not really sure how you can punish UConn equally when said player in question never actually played for the team. Seems pretty fair to me. It's different when the guy actual plays in your program.2/22/2011 7:18:42 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
That doesnt change the fact that they commited violations to get him there in the first place. if he never signed with uconn then I would agree with you. 2/22/2011 7:58:23 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
1 point to Drod 2/22/2011 11:01:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
tread lightly in this thread NyM, your modship is on the line 2/22/2011 11:04:16 PM |