RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
There are enough of you that have experience with this engine to ask this here:
Ive got the rest of the car built for 1/8 mile drag and have run out of budget for now. I want to get the biggest bang for the buck with mods for the engine to begin with, w/o tearing it down. (want to be able to run it the rest of the summer) This winter I will tear it down, rebuild and upgradge with H/C/I.
This is a speed density car btw. 7/5/2009 1:19:48 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
First step would be some 4.11-4.56 gears and a good locker. 5 speed or auto? If it is an auto, do a C4 conversion. A good converter and gears will pick up more than any nickle and dime bolt on stuff.
[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .] 7/5/2009 1:27:36 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
BOOST 7/5/2009 1:43:00 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "First step would be some 4.11-4.56 gears and a good locker. 5 speed or auto? If it is an auto, do a C4 conversion. A good converter and gears will pick up more than any nickle and dime bolt on stuff. " |
One step ahead of ya there. Completed thus far (or about to be) = -spool -4.30 gears -upper and lower rear control arms -drag springs, generic shocks - MT ET street drags
And its a T5 tranny, recently rebuilt with what I expect is a nearly stock clutch (prob wont last long).7/5/2009 2:00:44 PM |
kcon All American 551 Posts user info edit post |
i got some shorty tube headers that you can have... little be of paint and they'd be great 7/5/2009 2:18:41 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
^ how much? 7/5/2009 2:42:37 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
do you have the motor now or are you looking to do it soon. 7/5/2009 2:51:23 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
original motor that was in the car. about 130k miles 7/5/2009 3:13:07 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
i thought you wanted this car to be a bracket racer? Why would you use a manual transmission for that? 7/5/2009 3:26:58 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
i might eventually change it to an automatic depending on how much I end up getting into it. the stock automatic tranny wouldnt have been sufficient anyway. 7/5/2009 4:29:13 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think a 130K 5.0 with H/C/I would be good either, for a serious bracket car.
[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 6:01 PM. Reason : n/m] 7/5/2009 6:01:27 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
^will be rebuilt this winter.
As far as the base engine, all just depends on how fast you want to go. Decently built 5.0 that sticks with the right gearing can be very quick. 7/5/2009 7:24:41 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARnz6MHp30
first run with this car a couple months back. completely stock with burned out clutches in the diff, hopefully should make it back next week, if i can get the rear end in this weekend.
red one
[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 7:32 PM. Reason : ....] 7/5/2009 7:31:05 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
has anyone who ran a bad time ever NOT had clutch problems? 7/5/2009 8:08:31 PM |
jsmcconn All American 1220 Posts user info edit post |
seriously though, throw all you money at the front and rear suspension, loose or relocate weight and get an auto
[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM. Reason : blown car was at piedmont saturday, 5.19@143 spinning/lifting]
7/5/2009 8:58:07 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
This makes me miss my former life 7/5/2009 9:47:32 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
For a bracket car an auto trans is a must. 5 speed with 4.30s would have to be a good time though. 7/5/2009 10:20:28 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rYQZAGyGJM&NR=1
Did you get beat by a civic? 7/5/2009 10:23:37 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
7/5/2009 10:42:34 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
^^lol yup, nitrous'ed civic. was the same day as the other vid, stock car with a screwed up diff and bad tires. vowed to never ever ever ever let that happen again.
[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ....] 7/5/2009 10:45:11 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
7/6/2009 8:08:04 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
on the plus side the civic was cheaper, wrong wheel drive, and 1.6L.
hahahahah 7/6/2009 8:14:18 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
It's been a long long time since I've been at the track, but don't stock LS1s on sticky tires run in the high 9s? 7/6/2009 8:19:44 AM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
^^ dont know about cheaper
^ I would expect high 8's out of a stock ls / fbody 7/6/2009 9:10:55 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
So, how much money are you going to spend to get your ride into the same range as a stock LS1? 7/6/2009 9:13:26 AM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
what i have into it now will prob get it close. figure a lil less that $5000 including vehicle cost, and thats without any engine mods (so lots of room to grow). i considered an fbody originally, they are just a pita to work on by comparison.
[Edited on July 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ...] 7/6/2009 12:01:16 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ that civic had no traction. 7/6/2009 12:55:22 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
which is why its good that ryncsu is starting with a mustang.
i can lose traction in the middle of 3rd gear >60mph with azenis on the highway and i dont make dick for power. 7/6/2009 1:20:13 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
under throttle only or a clutch dump? epic wheel-hop?
anti-spin, fool.
[Edited on July 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM. Reason : -] 7/6/2009 1:33:57 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
under throttle. i shift like a freaking baby or I wont move.
non LSD 11lb rims 7/6/2009 1:38:36 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
dude, those 185/65's dont count. 7/6/2009 1:40:10 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
new tires that are going back on as soon as i get the diff back
[Edited on July 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM. Reason : fix pic] 7/6/2009 4:09:47 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
what size 7/6/2009 5:45:49 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
205/50/r15's i believe in the front 275/60/r15 in the back 7/6/2009 5:55:47 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
noob question here but why the 1/8th? 7/6/2009 5:56:44 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
closest track to me, only about 30 min away. 7/6/2009 7:11:02 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
i thought it was so you could beat the FWD's 7/6/2009 7:13:27 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
Mooresville?
We gun hav too line um up 7/7/2009 8:03:28 AM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
^wilkesboro, but I have been to mooresville too.
that would be great, have to work something out next time i go down there 7/7/2009 9:54:26 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
shit im even closer to wilkes (hamptonville holla...well till i move to west statesville this weekend).
my SOTP accelerometer says a mid 10 sec 1/8th 7/7/2009 10:00:39 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
soooooooooooooooooooo slow 7/7/2009 6:12:44 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
2slow2ragged 7/14/2009 7:04:57 PM |
RyaNCSU1 All American 1496 Posts user info edit post |
got it to the track tonight. was disappointed with the first couple runs, 9.6's at 72 or so. But.. last two runs were 9.3 and 9.4 at 75 so thats better. Best run was a 2.0 60 ft. Can probably get another 1/10 or two out of it as I get used to it. Considering before gears and tires it was running 10.1 - 10.5.
For comparisons sake I played around with an r/t challenger a couple times who managed about a 9.3 - 9.5. Best I managed in my G8GT stock at this particular track was 9.5.
Sooo... im happy for now but let the fun continue Headers and the removal of the remaining bits of the emissions system coming in the next couple weeks. 7/23/2009 9:34:43 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
too slow, time to throw on some laughing gas 7/23/2009 9:46:41 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
looks like you're making good improvements!
you cut a solid second out so far. 7/23/2009 10:03:35 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
improvements yes, but my old modded non turbo Rx-7 ran a 9.7 @ 71 in the 1/8th and those cars are really slow by today's standards 7/23/2009 11:26:10 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
well come on its a mustake he is building not an rx7 7/23/2009 11:35:11 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
lol quinn 7/24/2009 12:06:54 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
lol faggot 7/27/2009 6:49:25 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
set em up fatty
[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM. Reason : lol] 7/28/2009 11:15:24 PM |