Bye bye Lexus
450hp V8 and 350hp V6

8/14/2009 10:16:21 PM

8/14/2009 10:28:37 PM

front is ugly

8/14/2009 10:33:12 PM

eh, people buy Lexus not for its power anyway. I doubt Infinity will ever catch Lexus in sales.

8/14/2009 10:52:37 PM

well, of course infinity won't. they sell fucking speakers...

8/14/2009 11:02:04 PM

I believe waves may have had some influence in this car's design.

Really though, what a curvy car. Pretty too.

There an MSRP out about this car yet? Not that I'd have any chance of affording it.

8/14/2009 11:03:48 PM

450hp v8 sounds great!

8/14/2009 11:45:15 PM

^^I read $45000 to $50000 with an availability date early spring 2010

8/15/2009 9:12:19 AM

is there really any additional demand for this market segment though?

8/15/2009 10:38:07 AM

Quote :

"eh, people buy Lexus not for its power anyway. I doubt Infinity will ever catch Lexus in sales."

only people who hate driving buy lexuses

8/16/2009 2:24:55 AM

^apparently, there are a lot of that kind of people. Just look at the sales number.

8/16/2009 3:28:46 AM

Quote :

"front is ugly"

Wha? hush son, it looks fine to me.

8/16/2009 9:58:55 PM

^^yeah, they are. Have you noticed how boring their cars are? They have one car that's interesting to drive, maybe two (IS300).

[Edited on August 17, 2009 at 12:41 AM. Reason : y]

8/17/2009 12:40:53 AM

All the info out so far points to about 400 hp in the M56, not 450 hp. We just have to wait for official figures to come out.

I don't know why they have to resort to the QX56 engine. The FX50 engine already makes 390 hp (as opposed to QX56's 315?), and getting a few ten more hp out of it would be no problem. Not to mention, the name M50 looks and sounds way better than M56.

I like the styling... the rear looks a bit like the Jaguar XF, which is not a bad thing.

It is a shame the GS460 makes 342 hp as opposed to 380 hp in the LS460 (same motor), but when the GS-F comes out, this car will be toast.

What Infiniti really needs to make is a G50 with the engine from the FX50, and tune it to about 420-450 hp to compete with the IS-F.

8/22/2009 7:25:18 PM

that could be part of the plan. First you make the standard sedan, see how it does, then you put out the performance model. How many years was the IS out before they made an IS-F?*









*rhetorical question

8/23/2009 8:47:32 AM

Real pics of the M37 and the M56 for the first time.

180 mph speedo!

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/09/on-the-street-with-the-2011-infiniti-m56-and-m37x.html

Click link for several more.










[Edited on September 23, 2009 at 7:18 AM. Reason : ]

9/23/2009 7:13:54 AM

I like

9/23/2009 3:13:12 PM

definitely a gangsta ass whip, but Lexus will wipe the floor with them like they always do. Sales and demand are always way lower for the infiniti models in that class. just look at the depreciation of the top end Infiniti's (Q and now M) compared to the comparable Lexus LS 400/430/450 .

9/23/2009 3:19:31 PM

Infiniti sold more Ms from 2006 - 2009 than Lexus sold GSs

9/23/2009 3:33:14 PM

I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but from the way you worded that post it doesn not seem to be a fair comparison. The M45 is supposed to compete with the LS (like the old Q) and I presume the M35 is supposed to compete with the GS. you can't add their sales together and say that they beat the GS. i'd like to see a breakdown by models sold.

9/23/2009 3:52:37 PM

I think M's are more aimed at 5 Series, not a Lexus barge.

9/23/2009 4:27:40 PM

Quote :

"he M45 is supposed to compete with the LS (like the old Q) and I presume the M35 is supposed to compete with the GS."

Not true. The GS also comes in two vastly different flavours like the M:

8 cyl: M45 (now M56) competed/competes with GS 460 (GS 430 before that)
6 cyl: M35 (now M37) competed/competes with GS 350 (GS 300 before that)

While someone shopping around might consider both the M45 and the LS 460 (old LS 430), the M45 is not really aimed at the LS, whether you look at it from the price, performance, amenities, or dimensions angles. The LS is way more expensive, like $15,000 more at least, a ton more luxurious, and a lot smoother, unlike the M, which is "performance luxury".

Since the demise of the Q45, Infiniti makes no competitor to the LS. And I doubt they will resurrect the Q.

Quote :

"Infiniti sold more Ms from 2006 - 2009 than Lexus sold GSs"

Not believable in the least. Source? There is a Lexus GS on every street corner. The Infiniti M is way less common.


[Edited on September 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM. Reason : ]

9/23/2009 8:26:30 PM

Entry level (G35, 3 series, TL, C-class, A4, ES350, IS350)
Midsized Level (M35/45, 5 series, RL, E-Class, A6, GS)
Full size level (blank, 7 series, blank, S-class, A8, LS)

Infiniti was the brand that was supposed to have plush interiors like Jaguar with BMW performance. Lately its been interior like a Nissan and performance like a BMW, due to cost cutting.

Acura nor Infiniti has a true flagship sedan. The Q45 lost its way a long time ago (1997 to be exact). Without a true flagship they will never been considered a Tier-1 luxury division. Thats right its "social classes" amonst luxury cars, lol! At one point I think Acura considered the NSX its flagship car.

April 2006 Sales – Midsize Luxury Sedans:

E = 3,778
5 = 3,699
M = 2,417
GS = 2,336
STS =
A6 = 1,555
RL = 1,031

(you can google the rest)

9/23/2009 10:27:41 PM

looks too much like a hyundai

9/24/2009 7:47:50 AM

^I assume you're talking about the Hyundai Genesis? The Genesis that everyone says stole styling cues from BMW, Lexus & Mercedes? In which case I don't see how that's bad.

Personally I think it looks great, except for that shitty front grille. It looks tacked on, and also makes it look way too much like a Nissan Maxima in my opinion.

9/24/2009 9:07:53 AM

overpriced

10/16/2009 2:06:28 PM

Specs revealed for the first time:

M37: 330 hp, 270 lb-ft
M56: 420 hp, 417 lb-ft

Hybrid coming in mid 2010.

Ton of details: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/01/2011-infiniti-m37-2011-infiniti-m56/

BTW, the 2010 G37 has received a mild facelift with a new grille like the one on the new M:

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2010-infiniti-g37/full/

Holy shit, look at the rear bumper of the facelifted G37:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/09-2010-infiniti-g37.jpg

It is fucking massive... they are making the G into a fat pig, unfortunately

Here is a pic of the first gen G35's rear... looks so much leaner:



[Edited on December 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2009 4:03:06 PM

i wonder how the M37 and M56 will compare to the new BMW 535i and 550i

12/4/2009 8:48:29 AM

I was at the dealership the other day and looked at some of the 2010 Gs, didn't like the new grill in person. I've never been a fan of foglights though. Took a look at the convertible G as well, initially didn't like it, but the more I looked at it the more I liked it. I may do some test driving when I have the nav system updated next week.

12/4/2009 11:44:41 PM

Looks very Japanese.

12/5/2009 3:10:58 AM

Infiniti lovers, what do you think of the Essence Concept? I hope they make it... it has a 3.7 lit TT hybrid engine, producing 592 hp.

Make sure to check out the pics of the LV luggage pieces and the sliding tray in the trunk.

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/infiniti-essence-concept/full
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/geneva-2009-infiniti-essence/full


It has a very unique and interesting interior... check out these pics: (driver's seat and passenger seat in two separate colors!)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/39-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/40-infiniti-essence-press.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/41-infiniti-essence-press.jpg


[Edited on December 5, 2009 at 6:39 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2009 6:33:31 PM

^HOT as hell

12/5/2009 7:43:25 PM

^agreed

12/5/2009 7:56:13 PM

^^^ Very different......I like it.....

12/5/2009 8:07:36 PM

1/22/2010 3:02:02 PM

That instrument cluster surround reminds me of something...

1/22/2010 3:14:39 PM

not a fan

1/22/2010 3:49:41 PM

ew

1/22/2010 6:46:55 PM

more Nissan junk

1/22/2010 6:55:22 PM

M37S and M56S First Drive.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/01/2011-infiniti-m37s-m56s-first-drive/

Quite a good read. Comes with tons of new technology. Interesting excerpt:

Quote :

"Back to all those buttons. The new M, like the old M, is simply dripping with technology. We'd need an Infiniti M-sized owners manual worth of space to explain them all. Instead, we'll cover our favorites. Forest Air is Infiniti's attempt to make air conditioning luxurious once more. Essentially, Forest Air (depicted by a button covered with trees) oscillates the speed of the air coming out of the vents. It's supposed to mimic a fresh breeze and therefor be more refreshing. While Forest Air sounds absolutely gimmicky, we really enjoyed it in practice. Next, we've got Active Trace Technology, also known as ACT. Like a lot of new automotive technologies coming on line these days, ACT is yet another way to utilize the ABS. For you racing types, think of it as automatic trail braking. For the rest of you, ACT selectively unbrakes certain wheels depending on the angle of the steering wheel. In theory this allows you to transition out of corners faster and more smoothly. In practice, when you're in Sport mode (and we were absolutely in Sport mode), the level of ACT interference fades into the background. It mind sound a bit spooky, but like the other new M technologies we're about to mention, you can turn it completely off by fiddling around in the nav system. Y'all ready for this one? Blind Spot Intervention (BSI). When another vehicle is detected in either of the M's rear corners, a yellow light illuminates on the A pillar as a warning. Nothing new there. However, should you then decide to steer into said obstacle – let's say you're trying to change lanes to the left – both right-side brakes are gently applied. Actually, forget gently. If you really cut the wheel, the brakes come on rather hard. The result is that you are pulled back into your previous trajectory. Though Infiniti assured us that if you really do want to smash into the car next to you, you can muscle your way through BSI. Obviously, we were extraordinarily skeptical of this (or any such) driver interference technology. But, we tried it out, and we're here to tell you that it works as advertised."

3/5/2010 6:40:22 PM

0-60 in 4.7secs Damn thats quick for a big sedan.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q2/2011_infiniti_m56-road_test

Quote :

"The V-8 has 95 more horses than before, and the car needs just 4.7 seconds to hit 60 mph, 0.8 second less than before. Don’t expect anything at this price, including the new 5-series, to be any quicker. "

4/28/2010 1:30:11 PM

if i wanted to buy a 4 door that was fast i wouldnt buy a fucking nissan.

god damn.

talk about a shitty thread

4/28/2010 1:38:19 PM

^^It has 420 horsepower, it "should" be that fast, lol.

4/28/2010 3:06:06 PM

These look like hyundai to me

4/28/2010 4:31:02 PM

^ And that's not a bad thing. Today's Hyundais and Kias look awesome... way better than their Japanese counterparts.

^^ True... but it is interesting to note that today's large Japanese sedans are as quick to 60 mph as Ferraris, Porsches, and Lamborghinis of the 1990s!

^^^ I don't see anybody saying if you want a fast 4 door buy a Nissan. Goddamn. Talk about putting your own biases in irrelevant places.

4/28/2010 5:18:09 PM

you girls are acting like this is some big deal news.

4/28/2010 6:17:05 PM

^^and so can a Mustang V6

4/28/2010 11:11:02 PM

As expected, Infiniti is coming out with high performance versions ala Lexus F models.

Here is a teaser by Infiniti of two G-based models coming with mods, most likely G sedan and coupe with the 5 liter V8 from the FX50, or perhaps or perhaps the same G37 engine with FI.

5/26/2010 3:53:11 PM

G25 VQ25DD 210hp

5/27/2010 9:25:05 AM

G25 would be nice to make Infiniti accessible to more people, as well as competition for the IS 250, TL, and the lesser 3 series, A4, and C class.

You know what would be nicer?

G50! With the engine from the FX50 tuned to around 420 hp to compete with the IS-F

BTW, I still wonder why they didn't go with the FX50 engine for the new M. M50 sounds better than M56, and the FX50 makes 390 hp which could easily be extended to 420 hp for use in the M.

5/27/2010 2:05:57 PM