Where the fuck are the threads on this?

Thoughts?

9/29/2009 10:47:53 PM

who gives a fuck?

9/29/2009 10:48:15 PM

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9/29/2009 10:48:42 PM

Me?

9/29/2009 10:48:42 PM

Is there really a need for discussion? The guy's a pedophile rapist. He should be locked up somewhere, not roaming around as he pleases in switzerland

9/29/2009 10:54:44 PM

Polanski is proof anyone can make a comeback in show business.

[Edited on September 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM. Reason : (I say this in regards to when he won an Oscar, not the arrest itself]

9/29/2009 10:54:59 PM

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"The guy's a pedophile rapist."

Agree.

My only question is why now? It stinks of politics.

9/29/2009 10:56:51 PM

The 76 year old man should be locked up today for a rape that happened thirty years ago and has been forgiven by the victim, who received a settlement and just wants it to go away?

9/29/2009 10:56:57 PM

yes

9/29/2009 10:58:03 PM

fuck that, I want to see The Ghost.

9/29/2009 10:58:45 PM

I thought this thread was about



Show's how much I know about crazy last names

9/29/2009 11:02:21 PM

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"The guy's a pedophile rapist"

Yup

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"The 76 year old man should be locked up today for a rape that happened thirty years ago and has been forgiven by the victim, who received a settlement and just wants it to go away?"

Yes he should be arrested and spend the rest of his life in jail. If he wasnt famous people would be calling for his head. There should not be a double standard. Plus, the victim does not have to want to prosecute, the state can still bring charges.

9/29/2009 11:15:48 PM

The man poses absolutely no threat to the public.

9/29/2009 11:29:56 PM

THE MAN'S A POLE HASN'T HE HAD IT HARD ENOUGH ALREADY

9/29/2009 11:31:25 PM

^^ Neither does Bernie Madoff

9/29/2009 11:33:28 PM

^5 i love that guy

9/29/2009 11:34:15 PM

^^hahahha yeah right

he was stealing millions just a year ago

9/29/2009 11:34:54 PM

We are a nation of laws and if those laws aren't enforced then what the fuck are we doing?

9/29/2009 11:35:03 PM

"If I can't SCUBA, then what has this all been about?"

9/29/2009 11:43:43 PM

^^I don't know, ask the people that murdered the relevancy of these charges via fucking around and doing nothing for over thirty years.

9/29/2009 11:48:17 PM

so since he ran off to another country and we couldn't extradite him we should just drop the charges?

Child please

9/29/2009 11:49:46 PM

So what you're saying is that having to live in Europe for 30 years was like prison, so he shouldn't have to go now?

9/29/2009 11:50:47 PM

So it's their fault and not the rapist who skipped the country?

9/29/2009 11:50:58 PM

YES ALL OF THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU GUYS NAILED IT.

The US could have easily gotten him a number of times over the past thirty years if they had actually given a damn. It's simple laziness.

Waiting this long was preposterous. Putting a happily married 40 something year old mother who wants to forget all of this back in the spotlight, which will inevitably happen, is preposterous.

So yes, the expiration of the case's relevancy is completely their fault, and hunting down a 76 year old forgiven man is just silly, especially when he could have perfectly well been arrested at 46, 56, or 66.

9/30/2009 12:02:42 AM

i thought that if you lived in switzerland you could pretty much do whatever the fuck you want and the government stays out of it.

9/30/2009 12:04:01 AM

he was in france at the time of his arrest, i believe

9/30/2009 12:05:47 AM

Nah, Switzerland.

9/30/2009 12:06:24 AM

Execution.

9/30/2009 1:16:02 AM

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"The 76 year old man should be locked up today for a rape that happened thirty years ago and has been forgiven by the victim, who received a settlement and just wants it to go away?"

doesn't matter. it's not up to the victim in cases like this.

try to argue with this
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/28/polanski_arrest

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"Roman Polanski raped a child. Let's just start right there, because that's the detail that tends to get neglected when we start discussing whether it was fair for the bail-jumping director to be arrested at age 76, after 32 years in "exile" (which in this case means owning multiple homes in Europe, continuing to work as a director, marrying and fathering two children, even winning an Oscar, but never -- poor baby -- being able to return to the U.S.). Let's keep in mind that Roman Polanski gave a 13-year-old girl a Quaalude and champagne, then raped her, before we start discussing whether the victim looked older than her 13 years, or that she now says she'd rather not see him prosecuted because she can't stand the media attention. Before we discuss how awesome his movies are or what the now-deceased judge did wrong at his trial, let's take a moment to recall that according to the victim's grand jury testimony, Roman Polanski instructed her to get into a jacuzzi naked, refused to take her home when she begged to go, began kissing her even though she said no and asked him to stop; performed cunnilingus on her as she said no and asked him to stop; put his penis in her vagina as she said no and asked him to stop; asked if he could penetrate her anally, to which she replied, "No," then went ahead and did it anyway, until he had an orgasm. "

9/30/2009 1:31:21 AM

I personally believe that fugitives from justice should be caught and prosecuted. The only reason he was able to effectively evade justice for so long was wealth and fame. I'd rather not reinforce the idea that rich people can do whatever and get away with it.

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"The US could have easily gotten him a number of times over the past thirty years if they had actually given a damn."

It's actually pretty difficult to go and grab someone off foreign soil. It's a pretty big deal, and we've gotten in enough trouble for it before that now we at least refrain from doing it until we've properly invaded them.

9/30/2009 2:32:37 AM

^^ Damn that's fucked up.

9/30/2009 2:52:32 AM

I'm not defending what he did in the slightest, but the man's eight-months-pregnant wife was murdered and Russ Meyer made a movie making fun of her murder two years later. I'm not surprised that he ended up doing some fucked up shit.

Also, Chinatown fucking rules.

9/30/2009 3:49:06 AM

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"Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar and Martin Scorsese have "demanded the immediate release" of fellow filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was arrested in Switzerland on a U.S. arrest warrant related to a 1977 child sex charge."

Does Woody Allen really have a legitimate voice in this? The above posters are right, he is only getting this reaction out of Hollywood because of who he is. If he'd been a white guy who raped a black girl in the South in the 1970s they'd be calling for his head. If he'd beaten up a gay man in San Francisco, they'd want him in jail.

9/30/2009 6:15:36 AM

Finding justice can be hard in a rape case. This is where I believe in slavery.

9/30/2009 6:28:59 AM

No one is defending what he did. There's no reason to "argue" with the rape details posted above. They have been repeated ad nauseam for 30 years.

But the notion that locking him up now is a victory for our legal system is a joke. And it's not like he's been living in a French cave for thirty years. He has been to Switzerland many times, he's been other places many times, all during which we could have had done what was done a couple of days ago.

I'm aware it's not up to the victim. I'm not really saying its up to the victim. But what is this about if not for getting justice for the victim? Locking up a dangerous man? Hardly. Proving something to ourselves about our legal system? PLEASE.

9/30/2009 12:10:18 PM

It's about punishing a rapist so that others don't get the idea that they can do the same thing and get away with it. The fact that it took 30 years was a huge mistake that is now being corrected.

9/30/2009 1:34:52 PM

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"so that others don't get the idea that they can do the same thing and get away with it."

I'm sure his being free for the past thirty years has directly caused lots of rape.

I'm sure his arrest is deterring tons of potential rapists.

9/30/2009 1:39:28 PM

So is it your opinion that people who evade justice deserve to be free?

9/30/2009 1:46:32 PM

It's about DON'T RAPE PEOPLE.

9/30/2009 1:48:14 PM

^^YEAH, ALL OF THEM.

Extenuating circumstances.

9/30/2009 1:50:49 PM

Extenuating circumstances that he caused by fleeing the country. I can't believe you are defending this asshole.

9/30/2009 1:53:57 PM

I can believe that Polanski's arrest was a move to score political points, but it's hard to really care when he raped a child. To quote South Park, the government is 'right, for the wrong reasons'.

Furthermore, if Polanski was some schmuck off the street, we probably wouldn't have discussed this at all. If he was some rich Wall Street exec, who escaped capture because he had connections, we'd be cheering right now. If Polanski was some poor guy, he wouldn't have escaped to France and probably wouldn't have even gotten a deal with the judge (that apparently fell through).

But because Polanski is rich, famous, and uber-talented, his case has been written about ad nauseum and there's even a documentary about his trial. His guilt isn't even being debated, just the motivation behind his arrest.

As for Polanski's past traumatic experiences, I think it's terrible and everything, but most people in prison grew up under shitty circumstances. They may not have endured the Holocaust or had their pregnant wives brutally murdered, but many grew up in violent, abusive homes and rough neighborhoods, which is can cause serious psychological damage.

9/30/2009 1:54:04 PM

I hate this story because I don't think what he did was unusual, and I really don't want to know what the wealthy, creative types do with their time besides making movies for me.

Polanski is fucked, and he should be. He pled guilty (free of duress and with sound legal advice) to a lesser offense and then ran away when the deal fell through. That's not how it works. So now he has to do time for the original crime and take even more medicine for fleeing.

There's some mitigating stuff there, I'm sure, but I imagine he's gonna have to do some time. To me though, the story of his life and all its horrors isn't that compelling when his behavior seems to be in line with that of all the other rich Hollywood creeps who think they're above the law. And it's already been pointed out that plenty of other people have horrible lives, and they don't get special treatment.

Also, anybody who defends him should post some quotes that make him look sympathetic at all. When the man is allowed to speak his mind, he totally comes off as an irreverent hedonist...fun guy but not a good guy.



This case does have interesting implications for the entire justice system and our whole notion of punishment, but that conversation should be applied to everybody in prison, not just him cause he's a genius with a shitty childhood or some such shit.

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ]

9/30/2009 1:59:25 PM

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"Extenuating circumstances that he caused by fleeing the country. I can't believe you are defending this asshole. "

He caused Samantha Geimer to forgive him?

9/30/2009 2:01:10 PM

^

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"I'm aware it's not up to the victim."

Just stop.

9/30/2009 2:07:18 PM

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"...earlier this year, well before Polanski's arrest in Switzerland, she filed a formal appeal to the Los Angeles prosecutor's office asking for the charges to be dropped. A few years ago, she sued the filmmaker and received an undisclosed settlement."

He has all the forgiveness money can buy.

9/30/2009 2:26:02 PM

had him for history. he's ok but his tests are ridiculous

9/30/2009 2:26:39 PM

^^^The victim's lack of real power in a courtroom doesn't/shouldn't render her forgiveness and desire to not see him locked up meaningless. In my opinion.

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/30/2009 2:28:58 PM

let's say a guy is driving drunk
and he hits another car and kills the child in the back seat
but the kid's parents forgive him and don't wanna see him locked up

do you support letting the drunk driver go?

9/30/2009 2:31:43 PM

This is not child murder.

9/30/2009 2:33:51 PM