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Bweez
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I didn't see a thread on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4BdkOXfxk

http://chud.com/articles/articles/21554/1/NIC-CAGE-ROUGHS-UP-OLD-LADIES/Page1.html

I haven't been this excited for a movie all year.

Well this and Antichrist.

11/23/2009 11:36:33 PM

Bweez
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h8 u guys

11/24/2009 1:46:37 AM

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I definitely want to see it. Worst title evar, though.

11/24/2009 1:47:15 AM

Bweez
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Do you know if it's coming to Galaxy?

11/24/2009 1:50:40 AM

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!!!

11/24/2009 9:42:08 PM

Bweez
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I KNOW RIGHT?

11/24/2009 10:09:30 PM

vinylbandit
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SO HYPED FOR THIS

11/25/2009 4:39:41 AM

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looks like a cage movie i'd actually be interested in seeing.

11/25/2009 8:32:19 AM

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Jesus, I hope its good, for his sake

After Next, Knowing, Bangcock Dangerous, Ghost Rider, The Wicker Man, The Weather Man, Matchstick Men, Windtalkers and Captain Corelli's Mandolin, he's due for something that doesn't suck cock

11/25/2009 9:20:28 AM

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^I actually liked The Weather Man.

11/25/2009 10:24:51 AM

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PUMPED AS SHIT FOR THIS

11/25/2009 11:07:44 AM

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I was extremely skeptical that this movie could even be decent but it's getting pretty damn good reviews so maybe I misjudged it. I just have a hard time imagining Nick Cage doing half as good a job as Keitel did in the original. Plus the original never struck me as a film that should ever have been remade.

[Edited on November 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2009 1:44:37 PM

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"Although being promoted as a remake of Bad Lieutenant (1992) during its early production, director Werner Herzog claims that this is not a remake. He says he has never seen the original and therefore does not consider this movie a remake. Additionally, producers seemed to have added "Bad Lieutenant" to the title in order to get a better marketing."

11/25/2009 2:17:10 PM

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"I actually liked The Weather Man."


Me too. I think its one of the most underrated movies of the decade.

11/25/2009 2:18:59 PM

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^^Remake, spin-off or whatever you want to call it, I didn't think it was a story that needed to be expanded upon.

11/25/2009 2:49:34 PM

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"I actually liked The Weather Man"

11/25/2009 3:37:12 PM

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Fucking A+ movie. Loved it.

12/1/2009 11:00:57 PM

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Damn that movie was pretty awesome.

12/12/2009 4:03:25 AM

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Is this out yet or are you guys seeing sneak peaks?

12/12/2009 4:33:34 AM

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I downloaded it.

12/12/2009 4:55:26 AM

Grandmaster
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DVDSCR has been out for weeks.

12/12/2009 11:29:44 AM

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hxxp://www.megavideo.com/?v=DSH3M0K4

12/12/2009 11:34:43 AM

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Merry Christmas! We're getting this at Galaxy on 12/25. I'll post showtimes when I have 'em.

12/17/2009 1:51:03 PM

Bweez
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yay

12/18/2009 4:17:22 PM

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just watched the trailer...looks good...might DL it since the weather sucks shit right now

12/18/2009 4:56:54 PM

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"After Next, Knowing, Bangcock Dangerous, Ghost Rider, The Wicker Man, The Weather Man, Matchstick Men, Windtalkers and Captain Corelli's Mandolin, he's due for something that doesn't suck cock"


You left out The Family Man.

12/18/2009 5:25:00 PM

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pretty good flick

kinda reminded me of the 'remake' of Carlito's Way

12/21/2009 11:52:32 AM

vinylbandit
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This shit is ridiculous(ly entertaining). Go see it.

12/31/2009 8:13:33 AM

Bweez
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TO THE BREAK O' DAWWWWN

1/1/2010 6:43:02 AM

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enjoyed this film much more than i thought would going into it. Probably the best Nic Cage film i've seen in the last few years. Definitely worth checking out when you get an opportunity.

2/6/2010 10:21:39 PM

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Fucking terrible.

I mean, seriously?

I got a few good laughs, but I will never watch that movie again.

4/9/2010 11:28:21 PM

Bweez
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No.

4/10/2010 2:33:42 AM

vinylbandit
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^^ Your loss.

4/10/2010 5:07:15 AM

Bweez
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as pretentious as it sounds I really think some people might not get this movie.

4/10/2010 5:36:19 AM

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there was nothing to get; the movie sucked. Don't imply me that I missed some deep philosophical message hidden in the acting abilities of Nicolas Cage just because you like a shit movie and I don't.

4/10/2010 7:40:11 AM

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I have zero hesitation about claiming that you didn't get it, with statements like "The movie sucked," "shit movie," coupled with comments about Cage's acting.

It's not about "philosophical messages." It's basic understanding of what the film is doing. And if it's missed, I can definitely see why people wouldn't like it. But Herzog is undeniably a fucking master, and I guess he just punk'd you.

But fine, maybe it's simply a shit movie. Why is it a shit movie?


[Edited on April 10, 2010 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/10/2010 4:26:20 PM

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I love when the captain pops into the frame and is all like "GREAT NEWS!"

4/10/2010 4:49:59 PM

eleusis
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it's a shit movie because of how fucking stupid the plot is. A cop that abuses drugs all the time yet never takes a drug test? A dealer that just lets a cop witness them dumping a body because he might be crooked? Criminals that walk into a police precinct to tell Cage about the criminal events that recently transpired? Val Kilmer suddenly turns into a corruct cop at the end and admits that he knew about what Cage was doing all along? The three Italian mobsters that were sent to rough up cage look like a couple of Korean Halfbreeds and an english mutt? The numerous people who let themselves get robbed by a dirty cop instead of just putting the junkie cop in his place?

Cage actually did a good job of acting like a cop on a serious downward spiral, but the complete lack of an accent coupled with horrible writing and plot development left him as an unbelievable character.

Herzog may have punked me out of two hours of my life, but he didn't do it by directing a masterpiece. You can tell that most of the scenes were poorly thought out and a lot of the supporting characters were poorly chosen.

4/10/2010 6:40:47 PM

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Grandmaster is right, this is a fucking A+ movie. And Holy shit did you half watch this movie Eleusis?

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"A cop that abuses drugs all the time yet never takes a drug test?"

A cop that can get drugs from a police property room through friends and his own self cant find a way to weasle out of a drug test, or fake a drug test?

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"A dealer that just lets a cop witness them dumping a body because he might be crooked?"

Ok, its obvious this dealer is also a killer who's damn near the Scarface of New Orleans. You really think he cares when its just him and his boys and one prospect crooked cop around.

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"Criminals that walk into a police precinct to tell Cage about the criminal events that recently transpired?"

More like highly connected criminals who are sitting down with a detective in a precinct that is likely pretty crooked alltogether.

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"Val Kilmer suddenly turns into a corruct cop at the end and admits that he knew about what Cage was doing all along?"

At the end? What about the very begginning. Did that introduction tell you nothing about Kilmer's role. Again, Holy shit.

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"The three Italian mobsters that were sent to rough up cage look like a couple of Korean Halfbreeds and an english mutt?"

What the fuck does that even mean. You know there's a city called New Orleans?

4/10/2010 7:02:21 PM

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Complete lack of an accent?

WTF?

Did you expect him to speak like a cajun with the name McDonagh? Or were you looking for the accent of an Irish cop from a WB cartoon?

4/10/2010 8:13:58 PM

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"it's a shit movie because of how fucking stupid the plot is."


You're doing it wrong.

4/10/2010 8:30:09 PM

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very entertaining movie, several parts had me laughing my ass off. especially when he pwned those old people. great acting by nic cage. xzibit is an underrated actor.

4/10/2010 10:03:42 PM

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I enjoyed it

50 Cent!

4/10/2010 11:30:01 PM

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"A cop that can get drugs from a police property room through friends and his own self cant find a way to weasle out of a drug test, or fake a drug test?
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no, he can't. stealing shit from lockup because you've got blackmail on one person does not mean you should be able to run rampant through a department, showing up stoned to everything you work on. even if he could, a five second statement about how he avoids police drug test policies would have sufficed. but no, that would have been too much to ask.

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"Ok, its obvious this dealer is also a killer who's damn near the Scarface of New Orleans. You really think he cares when its just him and his boys and one prospect crooked cop around.
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he's not even the fucking Bennie Blanco of New Orleans, and he kills witnesses on the regular to protect his little halfass operation. He doesn't even trust people in his own neighborhood to keep their mouths shut, and you think he's going to trust a cop? Holy fuck you're retarded.

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"More like highly connected criminals who are sitting down with a detective in a precinct that is likely pretty crooked alltogether."


more like petty bookies and half-thug wannabees walking into a precinct with a lot of not-so-crooked cops to talk about shit that has no business being discussed around other cops. Why would a bookie confront a delinquent debt in a precinct knowing good and damn well he has no way of enforcing on that debt when Cage tells him to fuck off? Why would daddy's boy walk in to say "you killed my henchmen, but we're cool with that. no hard feelings"?

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"What the fuck does that even mean? You know there's a city called New Orleans?
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it means the plot holes went right over the top of your fucking head. You were so engulfed in the slapstick stupidity of this movie that you missed major fucking problems with the casting. Are you aware that New Orleans has a larger Italian mafia presence in the US than any city outside of NYC? are you aware the Italians like to use their own kind for muscle? The director is so fucking engulfed in making sure he has animals in every scene that he doesn't bother to cast humans that fit the part they're going to play. He managed to cast snakes, iguanas, alligators, and a dog into the movie for no other reason than to remind you that he's Herzog, but getting a couple of Italians to play the role of Italian mobsters was too difficult?

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"At the end? What about the very begginning. Did that introduction tell you nothing about Kilmer's role. Again, Holy shit.
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I've never met a cop that wouldn't trample the fuck out of the rights of a convicted criminal under the moral grounds of "he's a criminal, so who gives a fuck". With that being said, I've never known one that would turn a blind eye to a junkie partner who broke the law every chance they got. There's a huge fucking difference between the two, and the opening scene did nothing to hint at what you'd hear in the end scene.

4/11/2010 1:34:19 AM

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"it means the plot holes went right over the top of your fucking head."


And the point of the movie went right over the top of yours.

It's like you thought this was an actual police procedural drama.



[Edited on April 11, 2010 at 2:39 AM. Reason : .]

4/11/2010 2:34:58 AM

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"cant find a way to weasle out of a drug test, or fake a drug test?"


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"no, he can't."


You are trying too hard.

4/11/2010 3:26:36 AM

vinylbandit
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i'm upset that the iguanas weren't explained properly in terms of their plot relevance.

4/11/2010 9:34:46 AM

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"And the point of the movie went right over the top of yours.

It's like you thought this was an actual police procedural drama.
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a major point of the movie seemed to be to poke fun at fans of police crime dramas and dark drug movies. The problem is that those two groups should have been the target audience for this movie, so you feel like the director is intentionally trying to make fun of you for watching his movie, but he's incapable of doing so in a believable manner.

4/11/2010 10:44:28 AM

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"...showing up stoned to everything you work on. even if he could, a five second statement about how he avoids police drug test policies would have sufficed. but no, that would have been too much to ask"


Everybody knows he's on meds for his back and you dont need a detailed explanation around every corner to make a movie. This isn't fight club and i dont need to know how he wipes his ass.
Man, your imagination sucks.

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"not even the fucking Bennie Blanco of New Orleans.....doesn't even trust people in his own neighborhood to keep their mouths shut, and you think he's going to trust a cop? Holy fuck you're retarded."


Whoever the hell Bennie Blanco is, you're still missing the point. He was alone with him, no backup, with his gang, at an undisclosed destination. It doesn't matter whether he trusted him or not. Whats cage gonna say, "I know where a body is and I know who did it." Ok fine, back to square one. Your witnesses, testamonies? Just a heavily medicated detective in a downward spiral versus a high class lawyer. Why do you need this shit spelled out for you. And he was basically the scarface of New Orleans asshole. When you're pushing that much weight and have a mansion set up like that its not so far a stretch. Come the fuck on.

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"more like petty bookies and half-thug wannabees walking into a precinct with a lot of not-so-crooked cops"


It can go either way, you just choose to view it this way cause you have a bug up your cooter.


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"Why would a bookie confront a delinquent debt in a precinct knowing good and damn well he has no way of enforcing on that debt when Cage tells him to fuck off? Why would daddy's boy walk in to say "you killed my henchmen, but we're cool with that. no hard feelings"?"


jesus christ, You heard the man when he said that the guys who will come after him dont care whether he's a cop or not. And the politician's son was a weird piece of shit coward who beats up prostitutes, you do the math. Why am I even arguing with you? Seriously this is not something I feel I should be doing on a Sunday morning. Having to spoon feed you shit that you didn't even digest when you first watched the movie.

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"the plot holes went right over the top of your fucking head..........are you aware the Italians like to use their own kind for muscle?"


Do you sit down with a notepad and make correlation charts when you watch movies to make sure they're Italian enough or Harrison Ford enough or something. Who the fuck cares that 2 of the 3 guys weren't itailian looking. Get off the fucking Italian subject already. It'll be alright, the don wont roll over in his grave. I'll give it to you that this movie was slightly slapstick, slightly. But your head is way up your ass if you think this movie is ridden with plot holes cause it most certainly is not.

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"I've never met a cop that wouldn't trample the fuck out of the rights of a convicted criminal under the moral grounds of "he's a criminal, so who gives a fuck". With that being said, I've never known one that would turn a blind eye to a junkie partner who broke the law every chance they got. There's a huge fucking difference between the two, and the opening scene did nothing to hint at what you'd hear in the end scene."


And I've never seen somebody so formulaic in how a movie's plot is supposed to unfold. This isn't Dick Tracy, its called Bad Lieutanant. Ever seen Bad Santa? Its a little similar, in how he steps on every thing, including old people who get in his way.

And about Kilmer knowing and not saying anything to the end, there were 3 prior instances of him showing immoral character. I'll leave it to you to find them if you decide to watch it again.

4/11/2010 11:36:05 AM

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eleusis holds some sort of grudge for some reason ITT

4/11/2010 1:03:15 PM

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