Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, I searched so if this has already been addressed just point me to it.
As many of you know I work for the NC Forest Service. We wear uniforms (we look like game wardens or boy scouts).
I'm interviewing for another position within my office. My first thought was to wear my uniform...but now I'm curious if this would be ok or if I should dress as if I don't work for the NCFS.
What're everyone's thoughts? 4/20/2010 4:00:03 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i'd wear my uniform
don't try to church it up 4/20/2010 4:01:23 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I'd dress up as a different member of the Village People just to throw them off. 4/20/2010 4:02:00 PM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, cop or construction worker? 4/20/2010 4:02:42 PM |
DPK All American 2390 Posts user info edit post |
Don't forget the short-shorts. 4/20/2010 4:05:37 PM |
TroopofEchos All American 12212 Posts user info edit post |
I'd go with the uniform 4/20/2010 4:06:12 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Go with a suit, they already know you work for them. 4/20/2010 4:07:53 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Go with a suit
Lebron won't wear shorts and a tank top when he talks with the Knicks this summer 4/20/2010 4:09:07 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
suit 4/20/2010 4:10:14 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Do they clean the uniforms for you? I assume that the uniforms are provided free of charge too right? If so, wear the uniform as it saves you from having to do as much laundry. 4/20/2010 4:10:32 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
i feel like thats a bit presumptuous
i get your reasoning, but i feel something like that could give some people the wrong impression of you and your "confidence"
others would see it in a positive light and consider it as such.
Personally theres no way of knowing and I wouldnt risk it
im assuming you arent interviewing with someone you commonly work with. as in you are interviewing with a higher up or an admin that you dont normally interact with. Id wear normal interview attire just to be on the safe side and not risk lending the impression that you think you are a shoe in or that for some reason you didnt prepare like you would if your life depended on getting that job
If you are working that day then most likely there'd be no problem wearing your uniform if you were working in that uniform before the interview and are planning on assuming normal duty after the interview
if you are just going in for the interview on this day, or if you are not going to report for duty until afterwards, id go with suit and tie
[Edited on April 20, 2010 at 4:20 PM. Reason : h] 4/20/2010 4:16:28 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
ok, i'd like to make an addendum to my answer
i would wear the uniform if the new job would require the uniform (or a similar uniform)
if the job would require business attire or whatever, then wear that
i wore a suit to my interview for my internship and the guys interviewing me were in khakis and polos. it was kinda awkward. 4/20/2010 4:22:54 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Your Stupid. Lots of places of work don't require suits on a daily basis but you still wear a suit to the interview. No one wears khaki's and polos to interview just because thats what the people who work there wear. 4/20/2010 4:25:35 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
HIS stupid 4/20/2010 4:28:43 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
my stupid 4/20/2010 4:30:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Noose rolls up an interview for his plumbing gig in overalls and Wolverine boots 4/20/2010 4:32:55 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
grammatically correct or not, I agree with Slave Famous' post.
Wear business attire 4/20/2010 4:33:01 PM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Ok...normally we wear uniforms but on office days we have the option of a forest service polo and khakis.
The interviewer will be my boss' boss, the district forester. He only wears the uniforms to work. Also in on the interview will be the water quality forester who is basically on my level, may half a step up. He also only wears the uniform.
The vast majority of NCFS personnel have pretty low dress standards outside of work, so a non forest service polo in decent shape is considered dressy. I would be greatly out of place in a suit and tie.
I might just wear my uniform. idk... 4/20/2010 4:34:36 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
You don't have to put on a jacket, but a button up shirt and tie is a must. You have to respect the interview process, and etiquette says that you dress up for that sort of thing. It shows respect to the interviewers, and your seriousness about wanting the job.
Wear a shirt and tie. 4/20/2010 4:46:04 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
based on that id strongly recommend the polo
i wouldnt go with the uniform if you arent working before the interview
otherwise come as you dressed for work 4/20/2010 4:47:08 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
^i agree with this 4/20/2010 4:54:32 PM |
m52ncsu Suspended 1606 Posts user info edit post |
there is such a thing as overdressing for an interview, and since you already work there you should go with the khaki's and forest service polo. anyone why recommends a shirt and tie is wrong, that may be true for someone from outside but you should just wear your polo and khakis to show you fit in on that higher level. 4/20/2010 4:58:00 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Absolutely wrong. A shirt and tie is never over dressed for an interview, I don't care if you're applying to be a cashier at Food Lion or as an entry level engineer at a big corporation. I don't want you to put on the cuff links and stick a handkerchief in your double breasted suit pocket, but you need to dress like you belong at the next level up, not like you fit in where you are. 4/20/2010 5:03:44 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
you should wear the uniform. 4/20/2010 5:07:22 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
there is no real implication that he is applying for a "higher" position
sounds like a lateral movement to me 4/20/2010 5:08:24 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
it's like any other uniformed service; if you're remaining in the same service or even switching uniformed services, you typically wear your uniform. 4/20/2010 5:12:07 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I have never seen or heard of that being the case. 4/20/2010 5:15:01 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
fwiw, the FS polo is of the cotton mesh type w/ banded arms, not the slick/shiny smooth cotton dressier variety. imo the uniform is more formal than the polo.
i think if he wears a suit he'll be laughed at (having met the people he works with multiple times). they're mostly backwoods rednecks. of course i don't know them as well as Fumbler does...
he is a service forester. the district ranger position is up one and over to a different department, kinda, iirc. he won't be a forester anymore. he'll be a ranger instead. still working in the same office building here in RM. the job will require the uniform too. he'll be in charge of some people, whereas his current position doesn't have an managerial duties, but i think he said the people of whom he would be in charge are not in his office. they're scattered across the district and he won't even seem them on a daily basis.
i agree w/ the others, if you're at home for the day, wear the polo...but i know you'll be at work so wear your uniform.
[Edited on April 20, 2010 at 5:18 PM. Reason : ] 4/20/2010 5:18:24 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Do you have a 'dress' uniform? 4/20/2010 5:22:02 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I concede.
Wear the uniform 4/20/2010 5:22:33 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
no. he has a short sleeve shirt and a long sleeve one. they're identical in every other way. 4/20/2010 5:22:57 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
I'd probably wear the uniform.
Warm up the iron. Make it nice. 4/20/2010 5:37:08 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
4/20/2010 6:15:04 PM |
ewstephe All American 1382 Posts user info edit post |
call his secretary and ask. Id say uniform, wear your best one, get it cleaned and starched. 4/20/2010 6:50:36 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Wear a shirt and tie.
Its an interview. 4/20/2010 7:56:01 PM |
Walter All American 7762 Posts user info edit post |
show up in a fucking BEAR costume
you will be a shoe in for the job
4/20/2010 8:15:25 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
^this! 4/20/2010 9:03:26 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
dress up like a lumber jack or smokey the bear. better yet, wear a suit to show them you take the interview seriously. 4/20/2010 9:12:19 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The interviewer will be my boss' boss, the district forester. He only wears the uniforms to work. Also in on the interview will be the water quality forester who is basically on my level, may half a step up. He also only wears the uniform. " |
Then you should wear the uniform.4/20/2010 9:29:45 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
nvm.
[Edited on April 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM. Reason : ] 4/20/2010 9:32:56 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
this IS fumbler
oh, and it's just "smokey bear". not smokey the bear. first name smokey, last name bear.
hahaha unfortunately they keep that costume locked up
the ironing thing is a good idea.
[Edited on April 20, 2010 at 9:39 PM. Reason : ] 4/20/2010 9:38:50 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
dress for the job you want, not the job you have 4/21/2010 1:03:02 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
haha well that would be wearing the same uniform. everybody has the same one. they don't have stars for rank or anything lol. same patch, name tag, badge. 4/21/2010 8:36:55 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
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4/21/2010 8:39:15 AM |
m52ncsu Suspended 1606 Posts user info edit post |
What kind of stuff do the water quality foresters do? Any stream assessment stuff? 4/21/2010 8:40:33 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i'd say church it up...it doesn't sound like they're this judgmental, but wearing your uniform could be like saying, "i didn't plan ahead or care enough to dress up for this interview"
*shrug* 4/21/2010 9:01:45 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
wear the bear 4/21/2010 10:20:14 AM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's like any other uniformed service; if you're remaining in the same service or even switching uniformed services, you typically wear your uniform." |
That sounds good.
The job I'm applying for is district ranger. I am currently a service forester, which is half way between a county ranger and an assistant county ranger. A district ranger is above a county ranger, so I guess the job is about 1.5 steps up from a service forester.
Quote : | "Do you have a 'dress' uniform?" |
We actually do have dress uniforms...but I don't have one. Few people in the forest service have them. The only time anyone wears a dress uniform is when someone in the forest service dies. The dress uniform looks almost identical to the field uniform.
Quote : | "What kind of stuff do the water quality foresters do? Any stream assessment stuff?" |
They check logging jobs for water quality issues (stream obstructions/impediment, sedimentation, contamination directly due to logging, presence of buffers). The only thing we "assess" with streams is whether or not they're ephemeral or intermittent or whether they're real streams or manmade drainages.
[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ]4/21/2010 11:11:13 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
from what I remember about the culture when I worked at the forest service (this was like 1998), I think you'd be fine either way. Given that the folks that'll be interviewing you always weir the uniform, it won't hurt you to wear the uniform as well.
Do you work out of the salisbury building? If so, does louise coats still work there? She was my old boss, and is one of those hilarious older redneck women. 4/21/2010 11:20:47 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
he works in rocky mount 4/21/2010 11:28:39 AM |