it's just there in the air

PURE MOTHERFUCKIN MAGIC!

4/27/2010 6:48:29 PM

i'm never online anymore


and even i know this is old

4/27/2010 6:49:31 PM

4/27/2010 6:51:33 PM

List of miracles
Oceans
Stars
Mountains
Trees
The Seven Seas
Everything chillin’ under water
Snow
Rain
Fog
Long necked giraffes
Pet Cats
Pet Dogs
Child birth
The sun
The moon
Mars
The Milky Way
Fucking shooting stars
UFOs
Rivers
Niagra Falls
The Pyramids of Giza
Everything you believed in as a kid
Fucking rainbows
A pelican that tried to eat ICP’s cell phone somewhere along the San Francisco Bay
Music (u can't hold it in ur hands)
Pure, mother fucking magic
Water
Fire
Air
Dirt
Fucking magnets
Solar eclipses
Vicious weather
15,000 juggalos together
Metamorphosis
Children looking like their parents when wearing the same gay clown makeup
Crows
Ghosts
The Midnight Coast
The Wonders of the World
Mysteries

4/27/2010 6:53:48 PM

10/10

4/27/2010 6:58:37 PM

I don't want to talk to a scientist,
Y'all muthafuckaz lyin' and gettin' me PISSED!

4/27/2010 6:58:58 PM

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"miracles don't' happen"

4/27/2010 6:59:23 PM

lol Kris

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"Everything chillin’ under water"

please.

4/27/2010 6:59:51 PM

Every day with my son is another miracle.

4/27/2010 7:10:53 PM

aww

4/27/2010 7:11:35 PM

MYSTERIES ARE MIRACLES FOOL

4/27/2010 7:12:49 PM

99% OF MIRACLES AREN'T ACTUALLY MIRACLES ITT


^I like how there's a fucking 4 minute delay between the time I make a post and my post actually appearing.

4/27/2010 7:13:16 PM

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"99% OF MIRACLES AREN'T ACTUALLY MIRACLES ITT"

I don't know saab

him running away because the pelican tried to eat his cell phone is pretty much a miracle hands down

4/27/2010 7:16:50 PM

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"99% OF MIRACLES AREN'T ACTUALLY MIRACLES ITT"

DOOD UR LYIN AND GETTIN ME PISSED

4/27/2010 7:20:27 PM

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"99% OF MIRACLES AREN'T ACTUALLY MIRACLES"

THEN HOW DO FUCKING MAGNETS WORK?!?!?!

4/27/2010 7:23:26 PM

I ASSUME THE CLOWNS OF ICP (AND I MEAN THAT IN THE MOST NON-LITERAL, DEROGATORY SENSE POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE ACTUALLY CLOWNS) ARE ALL RETARDED CHRISTIAN MOTHERFUCKERS.

SCIENTISTS ARE WHO GAVE YOU ALL OF THAT GOD DAMNED TECHNOLOGY, FOOLS. IT'S NOT A FUCKING MIRACLE, IT'S CALLED "HARD WORK" SON (ON THE PART OF GOD DAMNED SCIENTISTS SON).

4/27/2010 7:38:16 PM

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"100% CAPS ittt"

4/27/2010 7:39:25 PM

Genuine Miracle:

Sophomore year of college, I decided that I hated electrical engineering, and wanted to be a writer. As a result, I lost all concern for any of my classes, and was on course to earn a 0.0 GPA for the semester. My father had made clear that he would effectively disown me if this happened, which would leave me a penniless twenty-year-old with no skills and no college degree.

At the time, I was devoting all my creative energies to an essay about Alexander the Great. But I spent a lot of time worrying about my future; and eventually prayed to God for a sign. After doing so, I opened my Bible at random and read the following passage (Daniel, Ch. 8)

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"As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn between his eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground. He came toward the two-horned ram I had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him in great rage. I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns. The ram was powerless to stand against him; the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power. The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven. .... The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia. The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king. "

This is obviously a reference to Alexander the Great and his conquest of the Persian empire. The fact that I was waist-deep in an essay on Alexander at the time, and sort of immersed in his story and its parallels to my own situation, made this perhaps the most suitable passage in the entire Bible for God to send me. And yet I opened my Bible, and stumbled upon this verse, entirely at random.

This is one of the main reasons I am a Christian. I will believe to my dying day that God caused me to open the Bible to this particular verse, as a sign of reassurance.

4/27/2010 8:04:26 PM

Your bar on miracle is set LOW son.

Jesus fucking god.


I ASKED THE HOROSCOPE WHAT I SHOULD DO AND MY HOROSCOPE TOLD ME TO SUCK HIS DICK AND WHEN I DID HE GAVE ME A RING. IT WAS A MIRACLE.

4/27/2010 8:05:12 PM

that's a completely ridiculous comparison, son

for me, a rough definition of miracle is "an event which happens in complete defiance of natural law"

among natural laws are the laws of probability, which would make it EXTREMELY unlikely that I would open the Bible at random and read perhaps the single most fitting passage it contained

ergo, it's a miracle, for me

4/27/2010 8:13:17 PM

^^What?

4/27/2010 8:18:05 PM

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"Genuine Miracle:TL;DR"

Sorry, not a miracle. I posted the list earlier, I probably should have specified: THIS LIST IS EXCLUSIVE, IF ITS NOT ON THE LIST, ITS NOT A MIRACLE.

For example, had you been told that bible verse by a long necked giraffe or in the rain, it might count.

4/27/2010 8:27:24 PM

^^^ you would have most likely interpreted a myriad of passages as being “a sign” to reinforce what you were going to do anyway.

What if you happened to have a Koran lying around, and opened that? Would you then become a muslim?

most weak-sauce miracle EVER

4/27/2010 8:32:43 PM

[Edited on April 27, 2010 at 8:33 PM. Reason : OMG! GOD MADE ME DOUBLE POST]

4/27/2010 8:32:43 PM

^^^Or, was the bible magnetic? Did it look like Daddy?

4/27/2010 8:35:17 PM

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"What if you happened to have a Koran lying around, and opened that? Would you then become a muslim?"

exactly... and the Qur'an mentions Alexander the Great as well. or he could have opened to any number of passages in the Qur'an/Bible/whatever that would have been relevant to his situation at that time.

4/27/2010 8:35:40 PM

A NOTE TO EVERYONE TALKING SHIT FROM MY JUGGALO HOMIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ7Q45jx5A4

4/27/2010 8:37:07 PM

there's such a thing as being too skeptical

if you ASSUME that miracles never happen, then naturally you're going to say that any number of Bible passages would have been applicable, and write it off to chance/suggestion i.e. you're going to reject it out of hand, based solely on your assumption

but the fact is that this was as fitting a verse as the Bible contained...if it was a coincidence, it was a hell of a big one.

4/27/2010 8:44:09 PM

^ except that opening a book of the religion most prominent in your area, reading a passage, and deciding to do what you wanted to do anyway is not a miracle. A miracle is walking on water, rising from the dead, making food appear out of thin air, turning water into wine, flying in the sky, etc..

using the psychological tool of religion to make yourself feel comfortable with a difficult decision that you had obviously already reached on your own is not a miracle.

sorry

By your reasoning, this is a miracle, because it’s a pretty amazing coincidence:


[Edited on April 27, 2010 at 9:02 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2010 8:58:07 PM

Your miracle is inseparable from a coincidence. 'Miracles' like that happen pretty frequently if you look at the whole world, due to the laws of probability, as they should.

Miracles which actually defy laws of physics/nature (not just something improbable happening) never seem to ever occur.

4/27/2010 9:03:17 PM

0EP: at one of the low ebbs of my fortunes, I reached out to God, and then something happened that looked a hell of a lot like God was replying to me

if you think it was a coincidence, or not sufficiently miraculous, then agree to disagree, I guess

moron: the relevance of your reasoning to the question at hand has slowly disintegrated

4/27/2010 9:15:31 PM

whenever anyone is at the LOW EBBS of their fortune and something good happens they think it is god responding

if there really is a god does he have time to deal with all 6 billion people on the planet individually? i think not

4/27/2010 9:16:47 PM

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"if you think it was a coincidence, or not sufficiently miraculous, then agree to disagree, I guess"

That's fine, as long as you understand what I was trying to get at in my previous post, which I will explain again:

Some happenings, if they were to occur, would definitely be classified as 'miracles', because there is no scientific explanation of their happening. For example, you have been eating a couple of slices of bread daily, and you realize that you haven't bought a new loaf in more than a few months (you live alone, no one sneaked into your place to put bread in your fridge, and the loaf you got a few months ago is a normal-sized loaf). There is no physical explanation for something like that, so that is a miracle.

Other happenings, are happenings that are just highly unlikely, but entirely possible and can be explained by simple physical laws. Are they 'miracles'? Maybe, maybe not. There is no way to know. Yours falls into this category.

4/27/2010 9:31:19 PM

Kris, where are you?! To edit your list, it's 15,000 Juggalos in the same room.

4/27/2010 9:32:48 PM

well, He doesn't have to deal with EVERYONE

He need only deal (if he does so at all) with those who reach out to Him

and I mean, he's God. of COURSE He has time. He has infinite time.

4/27/2010 9:32:51 PM

^ you don't see how your thought process fits with what you would expect from religious indoctrination?

You spend years training yourself to believe that a god exists, and meditation (prayer) centered on this god gives you answers that you don't have. It's known however that meditation in general focuses peoples' thoughts to consider more possibilities than just winging things. It just so happens that in the culture you grew up in, this meditation comes in the form of Christian based prayer. So you have in your brain something you want to do (write), you're convinced it's the best thing for you to do, you meditate (pray) to focus your thoughts to determine if it's what you should do, then open a book full of thousands of passages that would be applicable to your life, and find one that you use to reaffirm what your meditation already yielded.

This is not unique to Christians/Jesus/God. This happens to thousands of people around the world, regardless of religion, because it's how our brains work. This is not a property of religion, it's a property of biology.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1374/is_6_59/ai_57800244/
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/10/finding-the-fear-and-love-of-god-inside-the-brain.ars

4/27/2010 10:29:01 PM

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"He need only deal (if he does so at all) with those who reach out to Him "

well then that is a shitty ass god. he only helps people who reach out to him?

4/27/2010 10:31:15 PM

4/27/2010 10:33:17 PM

^^^
I get what you're saying. But the fact that religion, and religious ecstasy, arise in the brain, or are even hard-wired into the brain (and neither of these has been demonstrated), does NOT prove, or even argue (to me, anyway) that religion is nothing more than a mental phenomenon, and that all religions are false.

And yes, the Bible is full of thousands of passages that would be applicable to my life. But my point is that this passage was incredibly, almost unbelievably specific. I'm not talking about some vague passage that said "You will triumph over your problems" or "This, too, shall pass" or "He who endures to the end shall be saved." It would be idiotic to represent that as a miracle. But the passage was a specific and unmistakable reference to Alexander the Great (and I don't think there are any other passages in the Bible about him, though I could be wrong), in whose story I had been immersed for the past week or two.

Here's what I'm saying. Suppose you're a struggling guitarist, and over the past month you've been struggling to master the solo to Cream's "White Room," say; you've been devoting all your artistic energies to that. So you pray to God for a sign, and then turn on your radio, and "White Room" is playing. And it doesn't merely happen in the next few songs you hear; it's playing right then. That'd be pretty miraculous, wouldn't it? It'd be hard to write that off to coincidence. That's the point I'm making. You can write it off as coincidence if you want; but I don't.

^^
When I said "deal with," I meant "answer the heartfelt requests of." But I mean, really, I believe that God is so powerful that handling all the requests, and indeed all the dealings, of all human beings, is no problem for Him. Maybe your point is really, if there's a God and He's good, then why does He let so much bad shit happen? Why DOESN'T He help everyone? My answer to that is simple: I don't believe God is omnipotent. He's very powerful (powerful enough to create the world and do all sorts of cool jazz beyond our comprehension) but not so powerful that He can do absolutely ANYTHING. I don't believe it lay within His power to create a perfect world; but presumably He decided that, all things considered, the world was worth creating. Or maybe He had no choice about it.

4/27/2010 11:15:28 PM

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"Here's what I'm saying. Suppose you're a struggling guitarist, and over the past month you've been struggling to master the solo to Cream's "White Room," say; you've been devoting all your artistic energies to that. So you pray to God for a sign, and then turn on your radio, and "White Room" is playing. And it doesn't merely happen in the next few songs you hear; it's playing right then. That'd be pretty miraculous, wouldn't it?"

no. not at all. there have been plenty of times i've been humming a song and turned on the radio and its been playing and i've been like "OMG WEIRD" OR when i get out of the car a song is playing and then like 8 hours later when i get back in the car the SAME SONG IS PLAYING IN THE SAME SPOT. OMGGGGG. so weird.

4/27/2010 11:18:29 PM

4/27/2010 11:23:31 PM

R.I.P. ASS DAN

4/27/2010 11:28:32 PM

^^^ that happens to me on a weekly basis

[Edited on April 27, 2010 at 11:29 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2010 11:28:42 PM

You hum songs all the time, probably. So it's bound to happen, occasionally, that the song you're humming will come on the radio.

But I don't pray for signs every day...I've only done it once or twice in my life. Big difference between a coincidence happening occasionally, by the law of chance, and a coincidence happening on the one occasion when you're actually looking for a "coincidence."

But if you could write off the scenario I described as nothing more than a coincidence, then I guess we're done here.

4/27/2010 11:33:19 PM

You are an idiot man, sorry to say. You think the most mundane shit is a fucking miracle and when intelligent people laugh at you it makes you angry. Take note from this shit man, it should be an indication of how fucking pathetically low your miracle bar is set.

4/27/2010 11:35:53 PM

^^ the only time i came CLOSE to believing in a miracle was last year. even a doctor called it a miracle but it was just luck. like it was just getting really fucking lucky. which sometimes happens.

do you think miracles only come if you pray? like people that are in horrible car crashes and walk away when they should have died - i'm sure they didn't pray beforehand "if i get in a crash please let me live." jw what you think - honestly, not trolling.

but yea i had a really LUCKY circumstance in a stream of really horrible luck last year and it got me thinking about miracles. but thats the thing. when something good happens its a miracle but when something bad happens it is bad luck. why aren't miracles just good luck?

i was almost convinced for a second though. just a second.

[Edited on April 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2010 11:36:02 PM

so in other words khcadwal

you got a theory

about magic

4/27/2010 11:37:38 PM

^^^
I'm not angry, dude

and I'm actually pretty fucking smart...I'm a grad student in mathematics at probably one of the top 40 programs in the world. And while I know a lot of really smart atheists/agnostics, I know a lot of really smart Christians, too.

4/27/2010 11:38:19 PM

what about my questionssss

4/27/2010 11:38:50 PM

just a moment

4/27/2010 11:40:52 PM