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MitsuMtnASU
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okay so he last few days iTuned coverflow has been fucked up. i have no idea what triggered it. i've tried repairing iTunes and even uninstalling and reinstalling. the other views work fine (grid and list) but when i got to coverflow, it looks like this:



any ideas one what's going on there and how to fix it? maybe i should download and install an old version of itunes?

i'm running 64-bit windows 7 ultimate btw. thx

5/10/2010 12:16:08 PM

MitsuMtnASU
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geezus... just noticed i said "if" instead of "is" in the title

5/10/2010 12:16:52 PM

Shaggy
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stop using itunes

5/10/2010 12:17:41 PM

Lokken
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Quote :
"ITUNES

IF

FUCKED"


5/10/2010 12:21:36 PM

MitsuMtnASU
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yeah yeah... i noticed it right after i posted the topic....

found something that might help if anyone else is having the same issue:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2291671&tstart=0

5/10/2010 12:30:07 PM

Tarun
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i blame the music!

5/10/2010 12:30:53 PM

FykalJpn
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people actually use cover flow?

5/10/2010 12:48:01 PM

se7entythree
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^this

5/10/2010 1:15:25 PM

1337 b4k4
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Can you not just drag the resizing handle in the coverflow window?

5/10/2010 1:23:34 PM

Shaggy
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Here are some links 2 help u fix the problem:

http://www.zune.net/en-us/products/software/download/default.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/default.aspx

5/10/2010 1:25:19 PM

Golovko
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lol at shaggy. if there is anything WORSE than iTunes its Zune hands down.

5/10/2010 2:56:25 PM

DeltaBeta
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What are you using instead of iTunes?

5/10/2010 3:02:33 PM

Shaggy
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lol zune software is by far the best music software there is.

itunes is the worst. foobar2000, a music player for autists, is better than itunes.

5/10/2010 3:03:26 PM

Golovko
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"lol zune software is by far the best music software there is."


rofl. I realize discussing how bad Zune sucks with you is a complete waste of time since I'm well aware of your fanboy relationship with MS products.

so I'll just say...nothing is worse than Zune. /end


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"What are you using instead of iTunes?"


I use iTunes because of my iDevices and the store. I've been using iTunes since the store was first launched on Mac when I bought my first powerbook G4. I've learned how to use the software so I don't have any of the issues people have been bitching about on TWW except the only issue you can't do anything about...performance.


[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 3:05:46 PM

kiljadn
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Zune software looks great, but is a usability nightmare.



iTunes is functional, but operates like shit on Windows.

5/10/2010 3:16:59 PM

evan
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^spot on assessment

5/10/2010 4:20:21 PM

qntmfred
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" Can you not just drag the resizing handle in the coverflow window?
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5/10/2010 8:16:01 PM

smoothcrim
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winamp or foobar2000

5/10/2010 8:49:51 PM

Golovko
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^did not read OP.

5/11/2010 2:06:29 PM

kiljadn
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BTTT Because my fucking iTunes keeps burning CDs from playlists IN REVERSE ORDER

7/1/2010 6:22:40 PM

Shaggy
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use zune or windows media player. both are far superior in every way.

7/1/2010 6:25:18 PM

EmptyFriend
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^i agree. iTunes software is terrible.

7/1/2010 6:52:18 PM

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7/1/2010 6:57:59 PM

Optimum
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anything but apple.

7/1/2010 7:04:22 PM

El Nachó
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My mom had all her contacts from her VZW phone transferred to her iPhone. So the other day I decided to back them up to her computer. I used iTunes to sync the contacts to the computer, but for some reason it didn't pull off any numbers marked as 'mobile' only business and home numbers. So I ended up deleting all the numbers on her computer and trying the sync again. The second time, iTunes decided that since I had already synced the phone once, the computer now contained "the master list" of contacts, so it overwrote all her phone contacts with what was on the computer (nothing).

No warnings, no messages at all, no real rhyme or reason, it just deleted all the contacts from her phone because some dumbass programmers thought that would be a good idea. I swear, every time I am forced to use iTunes I find another reason to hate it. How in the world it got to be so popular, I'll never know. Aside from the most RABID Apple apologists, I don't think I've ever met anyone that actually likes iTunes. The best you can find is someone who has managed to tolerate it enough to where they don't actively hate it so much any more.

7/1/2010 7:56:26 PM

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personally, i like it just fine for managing my music and media. BUT i think that's all it should do. adding iDevice syncing was a mistake. that shit needs to be in a separate app, so they can fix sync issues more quickly, and doesn't require a weekly iTunes update.

7/1/2010 7:58:25 PM

El Nachó
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Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be that bad if you let it manage your music. By the time iTunes came out/became popular/whatever I already had 100+GB of music, so I never really felt like spending the time necessary to integrate that collection into iTunes.

Now I don't use it because my main iTunes install is on my mac mini with whatever 120GB HDD or whatever, and all my music is on a windows box. I guess this is as good a place as any to ask, but is there any way to get iTunes on my mac to recognize the music on my windows box without having it have to physically import all the songs to the mac. At this point my music collection is waaaay bigger than the entire HDD of the mac. Is what I'm trying to do even possible? I know I could install iTunes on my windows box, but I don't hate myself nearly enough to do that.

7/1/2010 8:07:33 PM

1337 b4k4
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"So I ended up deleting all the numbers on her computer and trying the sync again. The second time, iTunes decided that since I had already synced the phone once, the computer now contained "the master list" of contacts, so it overwrote all her phone contacts with what was on the computer (nothing).
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Is that not the expected behavior of synchronization? The newest data (or lack thereof) overrides the old data? Why delete the old numbers from the computer in the first place? If you're synchronizing, you wouldn't have had duplicates if you tried to sync again. I suppose they could have made a warning like they do with iSync (to be honest, I thought they did) that says "You're about the delete more than 5% of your contacts, are you sure?" but either way the application behaved as its supposed to.

7/1/2010 8:54:24 PM

El Nachó
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Well the first time I hit sync, it took the numbers from the phone and put them on the computer. The second time, it did the reverse. I kinda sorta get "why" but yeah, a warning wouldn't have hurt.

Also, now that I think more about it, fuck no that's not the normal expected behavior. What if I manually add a number to my phone. Are you telling me the next time I sync my phone to my computer it should delete that new number because the "master list" is the one on the computer. At the very least it should put up a warning message, but the preferred action would be to combine info. There's really no reason why it should ever delete data that's already there. Replace, maybe, but delete. Why?

[Edited on July 1, 2010 at 9:01 PM. Reason : Alright, so it wouldn't delete the new number because it's newer. ]

[Edited on July 1, 2010 at 9:02 PM. Reason : it was still far too easy to accidentally delete everything. There's no excusing shit like that.]

7/1/2010 8:58:54 PM

Shaggy
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yea. Synchronize means combine content from both sources. Anything that exists on A and not B should be transfered to B and vice versa. Any conflicts should be handled either by date, by picking an authoritative side, or by asking the user.

Synchronize never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever means delete

apple's synchronzie means delete everything from both sides because our software is terrible shit. you deserve what you get for using it.

[Edited on July 1, 2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]

7/1/2010 10:24:31 PM

tchenku
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"Is that not the expected behavior of synchronization? The newest data (or lack thereof) overrides the old data? Why delete the old numbers from the computer in the first place"


sounds to me like if she did sync again without deleting any numbers, the sync would have deleted all the "mobile" numbers from the phone, seeing that the Master list on the PC didn't get them in the first place. still lame.

7/2/2010 6:44:20 AM

1337 b4k4
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^ and ^^^ I think you're confused as to what the software is doing. There is no "master list", changes are made based on timestamp after the first sync. So if you sync and later add a contact to your phone, when you sync again, it's transferred from your phone to the computer because the contact was added after the last sync. If you then go and delete some contacts from your computer, they get deleted from the phone because again, the deletion happened after the last sync. Similarly if you add something to the computer, it gets added to the phone, and if you delete from the phone, it gets deleted from the computer.

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"Any conflicts should be handled either by date, by picking an authoritative side, or by asking the user. "


99% of the conflicts are handled by date, which is what happened here. The other 1% are things like when you change a contact on the computer, and change it in another way on the phone, then the user is prompted to choose.

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"Synchronize never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever means delete
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Not at all true, synchronize means to keep everything in sync, which means after a sync, both (or all) devices should reflect the same data. If you delete a bunch of people from your phone because you don't like them anymore, your computer shouldn't put them back on your phone for you on the next sync, they should be deleted from your computer as well.

What you're thinking of is merge, not sync.

7/2/2010 7:57:07 AM

Noen
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"Zune software looks great, but is a usability nightmare."


Wait what? How in the world do you cone to that conclusion? It's damn near retard simple to use and get around. Seriously, it's a damn dream compared to iTunes. And syncing phones with zune is night and day easier and more intuitive. Apple's worst product is the hub of all of their device synchronization, which is really a shame.

7/2/2010 12:18:14 PM

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"Apple's worst product is the hub of all of their device synchronization, which is really a shame."


I am not trolling or picking - really just want to know what you are referring to as the hub - curious.

7/2/2010 12:34:37 PM

Prospero
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iTunes, the content-delivery profit center for Apple.

7/2/2010 12:47:07 PM

0EPII1
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i have a lot of duplicates in itunes. i know how to view them, but how do i delete them other than selecting them by pressing control and then deleting them? any easier way?

7/2/2010 3:01:27 PM

Noen
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not that I ever found, because iTunes is a piece of shit.

7/2/2010 5:29:25 PM

El Nachó
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"Not at all true, synchronize means to keep everything in sync, which means after a sync, both (or all) devices should reflect the same data. If you delete a bunch of people from your phone because you don't like them anymore, your computer shouldn't put them back on your phone for you on the next sync, they should be deleted from your computer as well.

What you're thinking of is merge, not sync."


Now you're just arguing semantics. If it will make you happy, I'll change my complaint, just for you. iTunes isn't completely shitty because it syncs improperly. iTunes is completely shitty because it syncs instead of merges. Happy now?

7/3/2010 2:21:59 PM

1337 b4k4
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It's not semantics. Sync and merge are two different things. Now, it's well within your rights to hate iTunes because it only syncs and doesn't provide merge functionality, but you can't fault the software for doing exactly what it says its going to do.

7/3/2010 2:39:22 PM

El Nachó
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Can I fault you for being a monumental toolbag?

7/3/2010 2:48:00 PM

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