That Likes to Touch People

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936398

Is the touching guy deaf/retarded/gay/stupid/being paid to touch???

And he is a communications director... WTF?

5/27/2010 9:23:11 PM

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5/27/2010 9:29:28 PM

apparently not non-verbal communications...

i feel really awkward on his behalf.

5/27/2010 9:29:46 PM

not even verbal communication... he is being told (verbally) repeatedly to not touch and he keeps on touching. and he is also told physically, but still nothing.

utter [fail].

5/27/2010 9:32:30 PM

Wow... I would have called the cops after the verbal warning of calling the cops. That guy is seriously annoying as fuck. Who cares who he is and if he is some POS communications director. He was rude as hell, interrupted the reporter and was brutal to watch the long clip of being just utterly a stupid fuck.

Shit I'd go up to the camera man and say, "you are recording this yes?" and Mike Tyson punch him. We call that harassment, lawyers call it assault.

5/28/2010 12:55:50 AM

To be fair, the reporter was a real dick.

Maybe he was doing it to get him off the Asian chick's ass.

5/28/2010 12:57:46 AM

I thought this was going to be about Butch Davis and Woody Durham

5/28/2010 12:59:48 AM

^^ not really, he was very polite in the few seconds he tried to catch the presenter. Admittedly, he was probably there about a sensitive subject and probably tried to contact the office before hand to arrange an interview, but was probably dodged. Ended up going to a public meeting of where he know the person would show up. Very common in journalism.

And yes, the communications director was probably trying to get the reporter off the Asian Chick's ass, but completely fucked his approach and everything about the situation. I mean if you are going to interrupt the person, apologize first and attempt to shake hands. If you over stepped your bound with someone's personal space, apologize. Shit, they teach that shit on day one at any HR seminars. I also hate business people who touch me on my shoulder like I'm their 'bud', unless it's a hot chick, then thats acceptable.

5/28/2010 1:08:41 AM

The communications director guy completely imposed himself on the reporter, pissed him off, and got him off his game.

Which is to say that he did his job.

Well done, sir.

5/28/2010 3:18:15 AM

^See, this is what I thought after a while.

Reporters are ultimately a form of troll, but Communications workers can be the same to an even greater degree. The reporter probably didn't stick around, so job well done.

5/28/2010 3:22:00 AM

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"I thought this was going to be about Butch Davis and Woody Durham"

5/28/2010 3:24:40 AM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=733_1274832458

Longer vid.

ABC7's Dan Noyes was probing allegations that Laguna Honda administrators used money from the Patient Gift Fund -- funds donated to patients -- to buy catered meals and airline tickets, among other things. According to Noyes, "Hospital Director Mivic Hirose ignored our phone calls for an interview. So, we showed up at her town hall meeting at the hospital." That's when the chief of community relations Marc Slavin stepped in and repeatedly patted Noyes with a hand. Each time, Noyes warned, "Do not touch me," and one point Noyes threatened to call the cops. But like a brother bugging his little sister, Slavin continued his touchy-feely ways with Noyes and the camerawoman.



Longer vid. Comm Director was clearly trying to get the reporter to do anything that would let them cancel the meeting and get out of answering questions. He grabs the camera at one point.




Furthering info:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&id=7453754&rss=rss-kgo-article-7453754

Short story, touchy dude has been stealing money from broke hospital patients.

5/28/2010 8:35:47 AM

yea he should have punched that fucker. fuck that shit

5/28/2010 8:39:24 AM

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"yea he should have punched that fucker. fuck that shit"

After watching that story I feel those administrators both deserved a good punching up.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 9:01 AM. Reason : %]

5/28/2010 8:52:48 AM

The communication director was trying to distract the reporter and get him to leave. He soon discovered that the easiest way to make the reporter GTFO was to continue to touch him. It was pretty clever actually.

5/28/2010 8:57:01 AM

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"It was pretty clever actually."

agreed...even if the touchy dude is a huge douche and was stealing money, you can't knock his methods since they obviously worked

5/28/2010 9:03:48 AM

Haha the communications director was very effective in getting the reporter off topic and extremely upset, he knew what he was doing and it worked pretty well.

I just laughed when he threatened to call the cops, "ARREST THIS MAN, HE WAS TOUCHING ME ON THE SHOULDER!!!"

I could tell the rest of the staff was enjoying the reporter's freakout too, regardless of who was at fault a pushy reporter that won't leave someone alone is annoying as hell and I enjoyed seeing him get so upset over something so little.

5/28/2010 9:09:59 AM

I mean, it is the intentional physical contact with someone against their consent. Textbook assault.

While the reporter might have been a dick, he was doing his job and operating within his rights. The guy that kept touching him was not.
The reporter would have had every right to call the police.

5/28/2010 9:14:34 AM

I would have invaded his chin's personal space with my fist. Because I'm tuff.

5/28/2010 9:17:26 AM

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"I mean, it is the intentional physical contact with someone against their consent. Textbook assault. While the reporter might have been a dick, he was doing his job and operating within his rights. The guy that kept touching him was not. The reporter would have had every right to call the police."

The only real chance the reporter had to ask his questions was to let it all slide, though. Touchy dude was trying to get him to do anything to give him an opportunity to call the public meeting off.

5/28/2010 10:06:53 AM

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"Textbook assault."

not necessarily...the legal definition of "assault" assumes bodily harm (implied or actuated) in MOST jurisdictions (though not all), of which the touchy dude's simple touching of an arm or shoulder unarguably was not

not saying touchy dude wasn't being a douche, but odds are that he wasn't "assaulting" the reporter...i suppose i could look up their jurisdiction's definition of assault to see if they fall within the minority, but i don't care enough to do so

5/28/2010 10:16:46 AM

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"It was pretty clever actually"

Not really. They got a better story than if the guy hadn't been a dick. Now the reporter looks like a hero and the administrators look like the evil dicks that have been stealing from the dirt poor patients (which is most like the truth).

5/28/2010 10:29:14 AM

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"not necessarily...the legal definition of "assault" assumes bodily harm (implied or actuated) in MOST jurisdictions (though not all), of which the touchy dude's simple touching of an arm or shoulder unarguably was not not saying touchy dude wasn't being a douche, but odds are that he wasn't "assaulting" the reporter...i suppose i could look up their jurisdiction's definition of assault to see if they fall within the minority, but i don't care enough to do so"

Assault != battery

I think that assualt is simply unwanted or causing distress which would be the case here. There have been lots of other cases where spitting and such is considered assault.

5/28/2010 10:31:30 AM

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"Not really. They got a better story than if the guy hadn't been a dick. Now the reporter looks like a hero and the administrators look like the evil dicks that have been stealing from the dirt poor patients (which is most like the truth)."

but what was the guy out by trying? it's not like the reporter didn't already have a clue...might as well try to get him to go away and forget it than to allow him the interviews...it was clever enough to be effective as far as could be expected, which was to get the reporter to leave

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"Assault != battery I think that assualt is simply unwanted or causing distress which would be the case here. There have been lots of other cases where spitting and such is considered assault."

i'm quite aware of the difference between assault and battery...most basically and in MOST jurisdictions, assault does not require physical contact, while battery does...additionally, in MOST jurisdictions, the fact that assault does not require physical content has the added requirement that there is a reasonable threat

i'm not saying that "unwanted touching" is never assault, just pointing out that in most cases, simple touching without any threat of violence wouldn't hold up in court since it doesn't fit the definition

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM. Reason : don't want certain people to feel like i'm harrassing them]

5/28/2010 10:31:38 AM

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"The California crime of "assault" takes place when you perform an act that is likely to result in the application of force to another person. There is no requirement that an assault must actually result in a violent or forceful act upon another, only that you attempted to commit such an act, and had the ability to do so."

Assault if I'm interpreting that correctly, as in the attempted act is application of force. Given, that is a bit different than the other definition posted earlier.

[Edited on May 28, 2010 at 11:04 AM. Reason : MOAR]

5/28/2010 11:02:27 AM

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"California crime"

Makes me think of the California Cheeseburger

5/28/2010 11:18:26 AM

Ok, here is the full video:



hahaha, I think that The Reporter (Dan Noyes) showed a lot of restraint in not doing more than swatting the event coordinator's hand away. But I did lol when the event coordinator tried to blame all of the problems at that meeting on the reporter

5/28/2010 11:33:17 AM

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"Assault if I'm interpreting that correctly, as in the attempted act is application of force. Given, that is a bit different than the other definition posted earlier."

yes, i agree...except that "force" clarified in the second sentence:

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"There is no requirement that an assault must actually result in a violent or forceful act upon another, only that you attempted to commit such an act, and had the ability to do so."

i'm not sure you could equate touching a person's arm or shoulder to a "violent or forceful act"...you might try to stretch the spirit of the definition to include "guiding" the person in a certain direction, but this guy was neither violent nor forceful...persistent, yes, violent, no

5/28/2010 1:42:38 PM

See, I don't read that as clarification of "force". I read that as saying that in order for it to be assault, you would have to intend to apply force. Additionally, the intended act doesn't actually have to yield a violent result. Also, you would have to be capable of carrying out that act.
Not that you have to intend to be violent with your forceful act.

It's written that way to encompass situations where someone tries to assault someone else, but fails. For example, if Joe swings a punch at Bob, but Bob ducks and Joe misses... that's still assault because Joe intended to apply force, but wasn't successful.

In another example, if Joe tells Bob that I'm going to blow your head off with my .45 that's in my car, but Joe doesn't actually have a gun in his car, that would not be an assault because Joe doesn't really have the ability to carry out his threat.

However, if Joe is in a crowded bar, gets bumped by someone else and accidentally steps on Bob's toe, that would not be assault. That would be an accident, because Joe did not intend his act.

We don't live in a country where it's legal to touch someone like that without their consent. I'm 100% positive that if you went and patted a police officer on the arm or back like that, and he told you to stop, yet you kept doing it, then you would be taking a trip downtown for assaulting a police officer. Regardless of whether the police officer was hurt or not. You still INTENDED to touch him repeatedly.

5/28/2010 3:48:52 PM

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"The communication director was trying to distract the reporter and get him to leave. He soon discovered that the easiest way to make the reporter GTFO was to continue to touch him. It was pretty clever actually."

Maybe, maybe not.

To me, he didn't seem that smart/clever (from the way he talked and the look on his face).

He did seem like a textbook case of Asperger's, though.

5/28/2010 7:07:52 PM

Communications Director with Assburger's.

Interesting.

5/28/2010 9:19:48 PM

^^ This is what happens when people with no real knowledge of a subject go around throwing out diagnoses.

5/29/2010 5:37:39 PM

Yeah, I actually diagnosed him seriously

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"Asperger syndrome or Asperger's syndrome is an autism spectrum disorder, and people with it therefore show significant difficulties in social interaction, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests. It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of linguistic and cognitive development. Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical use of language are frequently reported."

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"A pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of behavior, activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[19] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject, one-sided verbosity, restricted prosody, and physical clumsiness are typical of the condition, but are not required for diagnosis.[5]"

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"Unlike those with autism, people with AS are not usually withdrawn around others; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a need for privacy or haste to leave.[5] This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[1] This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive.[5]"

Damn nearly fits all the shitload of traits listed above.

Now you are going to get me for using Wikipedia, right?

5/29/2010 5:43:29 PM

I don't think you get it. He wasn't picking on you because he disagrees with your Asperger'sdiagnosis, it very well could be from his behavior, but we're neither qualified or knowledgeable enough in the subject to recognize or diagnose such a serious condition.

Diagnosing symptoms without professional insight is a pretty major problem actually, because people are stupid and they talk to other stupid people and the stupid spreads--that is the medical terminology, yes.

5/29/2010 10:25:47 PM

5/29/2010 10:27:20 PM

witnessing these types of situations makes me very uncomfortable. there needs to be an awkward smiley

5/29/2010 10:34:34 PM

Communications director won. People who thing this is assault are pussies

5/29/2010 10:40:53 PM

well, as a "pussy" I can say that in this situation, I would much rather take the guy's wrist and break it in half.
But, in light of today's standards, I'd let it slide, and take him to court with video evidence.

5/29/2010 10:47:55 PM

1. The reporter was being overly pushy

2. The reporter then was very hypersensitive to the guy putting his hand on his shoulder.

3. Regardless of all that, if I was the reporter and he disregarded my first request not to be touched, I would warn him a second time that my next reaction would be violent. The next time he touched me, I would drill him in the chin.

5/30/2010 3:36:33 PM

agreed

5/30/2010 3:39:26 PM