wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Daryl Fleck was drunk and asleep in his car in the parking lot of his Crookston apartment building when someone called police.
Officers who responded that night in 2007 saw his car keys on the console between the front seats, but found no evidence that Fleck, who was parked in his assigned spot, had recently driven.
The appeals court said that Fleck's keys were "readily available to him," and there was no evidence he was in the car to do something other than drive. That he may not have intended to drive is "immaterial," the eight-page decision said." |
http://www.startribune.com/local/41754752.html
I'm against drunk driving as much as the next guy, but I think this is kind of screwed up.6/3/2010 9:21:05 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148255 Posts user info edit post |
wow i've heard you can get one if your engine is on, but not like this
what if you live in your car? you can't drink in your "home?"] 6/3/2010 9:21:43 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm against drunk driving as much as the next guy, but I think this is kind of screwed up." |
6/3/2010 9:23:10 AM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
that is bullshit 6/3/2010 9:23:55 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
sucks to be him - will a dui make it to the supreme court? 6/3/2010 9:24:17 AM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that is bullshit" |
6/3/2010 9:24:35 AM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm against drunk driving as much as the next guy, but I think this is kind of screwed up." |
Yeah...if that's the case then people are gonna have to start sleeping in the streets if they need a place to sleep and they can't drive home.
Would they have said the same to the guy if he was in the backseat?6/3/2010 9:25:25 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
yet you can drink all you want in the living quarters of your RV 6/3/2010 9:29:22 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck the police. 6/3/2010 9:31:05 AM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
RV's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars 6/3/2010 9:32:09 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43405 Posts user info edit post |
I always thought you could get a DWI if the keys were in the ignition, regardless of whether the engine's on or not. 6/3/2010 9:48:21 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
One of my friends got a DWI after getting his car stuck in a ditch. Cop saw him stumbling down the side of the road, and he was too drunk to argue out of getting a dwi. Keys were not even in the ignition.
^yeah thats def the rule
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM. Reason : read that shit niggaz] 6/3/2010 9:50:07 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
completely how the law reads.
i took a highway patrol sponsored/taught safe driving class, and the teacher actually told us if we needed to sleep one off in our cars, to leave the keys under the car on the ground or tossed a few feet away where you'd find them in the morning.
wild. 6/3/2010 9:50:37 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the god damn police 6/3/2010 9:50:52 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
true- we tried passing out in the back of someone's suv once, and it was cold out, so he put the keys in to turn on the heat
cop came by and tried to act like he was doing us a favor by not giving the driver a DUI for it (he was in the back seat, and I was in the trunk area)... we couldn't get a cab (they stopped running) so what the hell did he want us to do? 6/3/2010 9:51:25 AM |
grimx #maketwwgreatagain 32337 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt read the article, did they state what WOULD be allowed as far as where your keys go?
i mean, he may have just passed out while trying to put the keys in the ignition too. but if they were IN the console in the middle then he'd be safe like he wasn't trying to drive?
i dunno, just sayin 6/3/2010 9:52:06 AM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I always thought you could get a DWI if the keys were in the ignition, regardless of whether the engine's on or not." |
Quote : | "fuck the god damn police" |
6/3/2010 9:52:29 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cop came by and tried to act like he was doing us a favor by not giving the driver a DUI for it (he was in the back seat, and I was in the trunk area)... we couldn't get a cab (they stopped running) so what the hell did he want us to do? " |
you should have bartered for one of those tinfoil heat blankets they carry in their trunks.6/3/2010 9:53:08 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " i mean, he may have just passed out while trying to put the keys in the ignition too. but if they were IN the console in the middle then he'd be safe like he wasn't trying to drive?" |
that's conjecture and up to interpretation.
laws work better when they're very explicit, ie, in or out of the car.6/3/2010 9:53:28 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the police etc but seriously fuck our law makers 6/3/2010 9:54:05 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148255 Posts user info edit post |
Excuse me sir, if you want to sleep in your car, you should put your keys outside. Don't worry, nobody will steal them. 6/3/2010 9:54:16 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the police etc but seriously fuck our law makers 6/3/2010 9:54:39 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
i throw the keys in the passenger floorboard and then get in the back seat when i need to sleep off a good drunk
do you think i'm safe from the fucking pigs? 6/3/2010 9:54:50 AM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^^ ^^^^ And apparently the courts, too.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM. Reason : ] 6/3/2010 9:54:53 AM |
Wraith All American 27247 Posts user info edit post |
What kind of dick calls the police cause a dude is sleeping in his car? 6/3/2010 9:55:10 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The appeals court said that Fleck's keys were "readily available to him," and there was no evidence he was in the car to do something other than drive." |
Uhhh, there was evidence that he was in his god damn car to sleep, namely that he was found that way... This is total bullshit6/3/2010 9:55:50 AM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Solinari?
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:56 AM. Reason : y'all need to chill with all the posting] 6/3/2010 9:55:56 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ That's what I want to know.
Quote : | "I always thought you could get a DWI if the keys were in the ignition, regardless of whether the engine's on or not." |
His keys weren't in the ignition.
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 9:57 AM. Reason : f]6/3/2010 9:57:16 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NEEDN'T
BE
DRIVING" |
i don't use needn't enough6/3/2010 9:57:25 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
Another example of confusing/asinine laws in action:
I was driving home (Charlotte) from school (for winter break) and had a big hunting knife in one of my bags for a trip I had gone on right before I came home. The back seats had been folded down, and the bag was in the trunk, but a cop who had pulled me tried to say I had access to it and charged me with concealed weapon (even though it was in a bag in the trunk area) - WHAT AM I, STRETCH ARMSTRONG??? 6/3/2010 9:57:55 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148255 Posts user info edit post |
btw that article is from Minnesota, so not sure how the laws are different in NC or other states 6/3/2010 10:01:28 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WHAT AM I, STRETCH ARMSTRONG???" |
lollllllll
gotta love our gang in blue, janitors with guns and a chip on their shoulder
in before our resident fascist ball suckers rush in to defend cops at all costs6/3/2010 10:02:03 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43405 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "His keys weren't in the ignition." |
I know, I was just saying.6/3/2010 10:06:07 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
YOU SEE IT'S OKAY THAT HE GOT A DUI BECAUSE YOU BREAK THE LAW YOU PAY THE BUDHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DERPA DERPA DERPA DERPA 6/3/2010 10:07:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148255 Posts user info edit post |
^i dont think anybody in this thread has implied that at all 6/3/2010 10:08:18 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
I know I'm just getting ready for it because we all know it's coming 6/3/2010 10:09:38 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Howsabout you just stop breaking the fucking law? That works just as well, if not better." |
6/3/2010 10:09:46 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
This is okay because police officers who fall asleep in cars get DWIs all the time. 6/3/2010 10:14:06 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i thought this was common knowledge. 6/3/2010 10:20:01 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
and the downward spiral of our system of law begins. 6/3/2010 10:22:35 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you didn't read the entire story in the OP 6/3/2010 10:23:05 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
begins?
people say the same thing, no matter what forum it is every time an article like this is written
and yet
no one that says that ever does shit about it. 6/3/2010 10:23:41 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
and fuck the bitch who called the cops 6/3/2010 10:23:47 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no one that says that ever does shit about it." |
i'm down for a violent revolution
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM. Reason : need to thin the herd anyway]6/3/2010 10:26:23 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ yes, i did. i was well aware that if you're in a car and have the ability to start driving it and you are drunk that you can get a dui. i thought everyone knew this.
what part of my statement made you think i hadn't read it? there's nothing in that article that is not summarized in the thread title.^
[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM. Reason : ^] 6/3/2010 10:26:37 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm down for a violent revolution" |
How about a nonviolent one? People from all persuasions need to get together and decide that liberty is important.6/3/2010 10:27:27 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
that's cool too, but i just don't think it'll work
nobody does anything nowadays until somebody dies 6/3/2010 10:28:14 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148255 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i thought everyone knew this" |
i, too, thought everyone knew the DWI laws in MINNESOTA6/3/2010 10:28:47 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
don't know if that's necessarily true
it just means that people from both the right and the left need to realize that there's a set of things that require sensible governance that everybody can agree on 6/3/2010 10:29:01 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "everybody can agree on" |
never gonna happen with the bible thumpers6/3/2010 10:30:45 AM |