AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
who is against gay marriage again?
This has been an AstralAdvent query 6/9/2010 12:59:30 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I'm against gay marriage between goats. 6/9/2010 1:00:24 AM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
Obvious troll is obvious 6/9/2010 1:00:40 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
^this topic is very important to me
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 1:01 AM. Reason : you know because i am tryin to marry dudes] 6/9/2010 1:00:54 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
i support gay marriage 6/9/2010 1:01:02 AM |
BubbleBobble :3 114243 Posts user info edit post |
6/9/2010 1:24:23 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
6/9/2010 1:47:52 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
/message_topic.aspx?topic=566198
covered extensively here
ftr i, too, support gay marriage
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 1:53 AM. Reason : .] 6/9/2010 1:52:12 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
personally, I don't agree with it. legally, there is nothing wrong with it.
conclusion: go have your fun, get married to whom you please, this shouldn't even be an issue in today's world. 6/9/2010 9:40:18 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
conservatives 6/9/2010 9:41:39 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
You can't spell conservative without con. 6/9/2010 9:42:58 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^go on... what I just posted is not the conservative view.... which would be: "HOLY SHIT GAY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. NO MARRIAGE, IT'S SIN" and on and on and on. 6/9/2010 9:44:09 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't say it was...the OP asked who was against gay marriage and i replied with "conservatives"
am i wrong? 6/9/2010 9:44:50 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
well, most of my views are conservative... but in the end, I'm not against gay marriage... so... yeh. 6/9/2010 9:45:44 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what I just posted is not the conservative view" |
You're telling me you didn't post:
"HOLY SHIT GAY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. NO MARRIAGE, IT'S SIN"?6/9/2010 9:45:54 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
fail. I said that would be the traditional conservative view, which does not match my view, which I posted before.
or maybe I should say the christian conservative view. in either case, it doesn't describe my views, as I previously posted.
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .] 6/9/2010 9:46:48 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I said that would be the traditional conservative view" |
Which I have you on record as saying.
"I just posted... HOLY SHIT GAY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. NO MARRIAGE, IT'S SIN."
Are you now calling me a liar?6/9/2010 9:48:51 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
ok, you are obviously trolling here. You know exactly what I said, which is not what you are portraying. 6/9/2010 9:49:46 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ A troll calling me a troll. You're going to post shit, and when someone calls you the fuck out on it, you try to take back what you said. Like I said, you can't spell conservative without con. 6/9/2010 9:52:03 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
haha, I wasn't trolling. I posted my opinion, then I thought quag was trying to troll me with the conservative remark, to which I responded by essentially pointing out that being conservative != being against gay marriage. And what am I trying to take back? I stated my opinion and then I stated the traditional/christian conservative view, showing that not all conservatives have the same view on gay marriage. What is so hard to comprehend here?
Maybe you're having trouble understanding English... "what I just posted" referred to my first post in this thread, which contains my opinion. then I said the traditional/christian view is " "HOLY SHIT GAY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. NO MARRIAGE, IT'S SIN" and on and on and on" which is not my view.
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .] 6/9/2010 9:54:47 AM |
LaserSoup All American 5502 Posts user info edit post |
I once said among friends that I don't really care but that it should be legal just so more people could have health ins. and estates could be settled. One dude got all pissed and started ranting about how it was ruining the sanctity of my marriage. My wife and I were all 6/9/2010 9:56:56 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ok, you are obviously trolling retarded here. " |
6/9/2010 10:00:46 AM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
i dont care. let them do what they want, just keep the PDA down it makes people uncomfortable 6/9/2010 10:05:46 AM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
My conservative view: it's not the federal government's call. It should be up to the individual states to decide. 6/9/2010 10:11:29 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And what am I trying to take back?" |
I feel that this:
Quote : | "Maybe you're having trouble understanding English..." |
Should be directed towards you, instead of me.
You said what you're trying to take back in the last sentence:
Quote : | "then I said the traditional/christian view is " "HOLY SHIT GAY. KILL IT WITH FIRE. NO MARRIAGE, IT'S SIN" and on and on and on" which is not my view." |
You did say that on a personal level you don't agree with it, did you not? Why not? Is it due to your "traditional/christian" values? You clearly think that it's wrong on a personal level. You then say that people should go have fun and that it shouldn't be an issue in today's world, when quite clearly, you have stated that you personally object to such fun, and that on a personal level, it IS an issue for you.6/9/2010 10:13:05 AM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont care. let them do what they want, just keep the PDA down it makes people uncomfortable" |
I agree - and this view should be towards everyone, gay or straight6/9/2010 10:14:47 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
You are trying WAY too hard, merbig. Go get you some Wheaties and try again 6/9/2010 10:15:06 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ Wheaties, at 10:15 PM? 6/9/2010 10:15:57 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
ha, you are that stupid. my political beliefs have no religious background. My personal disagreement with this has nothing to do with religion, whatsoever. Nice try though. And is it that hard to understand that legally, I have no problem with it and that I said people should be able to marry who they want to? It is not an issue for me. I'll say it again, people should be able to marry who they want to, whether or not I personally agree with a person's life choices are irrelevant.
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM. Reason : .] 6/9/2010 10:28:11 AM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'll ask it again. Why the fuck do you disagree on a personal level?
Why even post it if it meant nothing? By the sounds of it, you would prefer it that gay marriage be illegal, but that if/when the time comes that it is legalized, you won't say anything.
Or are you switching your story up and saying that you do personally agree with it? How can you sit here and say that you legally support something, but personally disagree with it, especially when your personal feelings are influenced by religion. It's completely contradictory.
You can say that you personally agree with it, but that doesn't mean that you would personally get married to another dude, because you're not gay. I personally, and legally, feel that gay marriage should be allowed. That doesn't mean that I want to marry another dude.
Your stance makes no sense, so don't get all pissed off when you get called the fuck out on it. 6/9/2010 10:36:23 AM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
I am against gay marriage. Completely due to me being against anything that makes people happy. Other things I am against:
Circuses Long walks on the beach Otters Balloons Movies International Travel Domestic Travel Apples and Oyster Roasts
There's plenty more but those are at the top of the list, along with gay marriage. 6/9/2010 10:44:18 AM |
LaserSoup All American 5502 Posts user info edit post |
^The circus is evil son. They have clowns, which I hate, and why the fuck do I want to see an elephant wearing hats and riding a bike. Other than that I agree with you I hate stuff that makes people happy...don't forget clam bakes.
I know let's makes everything that makes people happy illegal so we can be as fucked as the middle east. 6/9/2010 10:47:12 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
i'm also a contrarian
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 6/9/2010 10:48:35 AM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
We can't have people running around minding their own business and smiling, being all content-ass-bitches.
NAW, SON. NAW. 6/9/2010 10:48:45 AM |
yuffie_chan All American 4898 Posts user info edit post |
6/9/2010 11:56:59 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ hah 6/9/2010 11:57:38 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
ibt Optimum 6/9/2010 11:58:37 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'll ask it again. Why the fuck do you disagree on a personal level?
Why even post it if it meant nothing? By the sounds of it, you would prefer it that gay marriage be illegal, but that if/when the time comes that it is legalized, you won't say anything.
Or are you switching your story up and saying that you do personally agree with it? How can you sit here and say that you legally support something, but personally disagree with it, especially when your personal feelings are influenced by religion. It's completely contradictory.
You can say that you personally agree with it, but that doesn't mean that you would personally get married to another dude, because you're not gay. I personally, and legally, feel that gay marriage should be allowed. That doesn't mean that I want to marry another dude.
Your stance makes no sense, so don't get all pissed off when you get called the fuck out on it." |
1. I don't have to explain my personal beliefs to you. 2. I have yet to switch up my story. 3. I'll say it again, my personal feelings are not influenced by religion. 4. I don't feel that gay marriage should be made illegal; in fact, I disagree with any government trying to ban it, there is no legal reason to do so. 5. You're telling me that of all the issues in this country, that there isn't one where you personally disagree with someone's choices but recognize that person has the right to make that choice?
[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]6/9/2010 1:46:08 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18579 Posts user info edit post |
IBTIdontmindgaysbuttheybetternothitonmeorelse 6/9/2010 1:55:52 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell, it hasn't been contradictory to disagree with an act or find it distasteful but still accept and promote its legality since the 18th century. Cue a tired old quote of Voltaire that I'm sure that you all know. 6/9/2010 1:56:50 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell, it hasn't been contradictory to disagree with an act or find it distasteful but still accept and promote its legality since the 18th century. Cue a tired old quote of Voltaire that I'm sure that you all know. 6/9/2010 1:56:50 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
lol 6/9/2010 1:57:00 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
i am against marriage period 6/9/2010 1:58:35 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
i dont see anything wrong with wdprice's statement
i'm personally against most forms of abortion but I don't think the government has any right to tell someone what they do with their body
no different than that
it bothers me that by and large conservatives are for a smaller government except when it crosses their ultra-fundy religious beliefs. sort of reminds me of the southern states clamoring for states rights, except of course when they wanted a strong national government to return their slaves for them.
if you have a belief or ideology don't betray it just to suite your own needs, thats called a hypocrite
heres to you wdprice 6/9/2010 2:07:02 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Banning marriage would interfere with individuals' religious freedom, which is something I find distasteful but feel should remain legal. It is also useful as a legal constuct in providing a prtocol which must be followed, thereby establishing some decorum to events during which people can lose their composure and manners, such as the division of goods and assets and the responsibility of child care following the dissolution of a cohabitating couple. 6/9/2010 2:12:53 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Banning marriage would interfere with individuals' religious freedom, which is something I find distasteful but feel should remain legal. It is also useful as a legal constuct in providing a prtocol which must be followed, thereby establishing some decorum to events during which people can lose their composure and manners, such as the division of goods and assets and the responsibility of child care following the dissolution of a cohabitating couple. 6/9/2010 2:12:53 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i am against marriage period" |
you're against it? like...you protest the right for people to choose to get married altogether?
or do you just mean that you choose not to get married?6/9/2010 2:14:30 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
i think that was a maddox "I'm against abortion but i'm for killing babies" reference
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 6/9/2010 3:56:52 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
and saying that marriage is a "religious institution" is highly laughable. 6/9/2010 3:59:17 PM |
lion4russell All American 1588 Posts user info edit post |
i couldnt care less 6/9/2010 4:01:30 PM |