God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kJVnA5KXJw
you fucking shithole pussies, i wish that hell existed so you could all go there
fuck you 6/18/2010 9:58:50 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, SaabTurbo. 6/18/2010 10:00:09 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
First ones to call when you need help. Yeah fuck them
That being said I'm not going to watch this video 6/18/2010 10:23:14 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
ok normally i DO NOT watch these videos but for some reason i decided to watch this one
and as someone who doesnt normally side one way or the others with super pet lovers and super police lovers, this is really fucked up
they get the dog collared, it is laying down and it is WAGGING ITS TAIL LIKE ITS NEVER BEEN HAPPIER then he shoots it in the head
yeah, save yourself the trouble and dont watch 6/18/2010 10:25:41 PM |
dbhawley All American 3339 Posts user info edit post |
what a vicious dog huh 6/18/2010 10:32:00 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i can't watch
i think i'll throw up if i watch
god damn 6/18/2010 10:33:02 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
You do realize that he shot the dog once, it died and was twitching, NOT happily wagging its tail, the cop thought it was still alive and shot it again, right? 6/18/2010 10:40:36 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
I try not to 6/18/2010 10:41:45 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, I hate the cops as much as the next guy, possibly more, and I love animals as well, but without knowing the situation, I see a clean kill and am not prepared to pass judgement on it 6/18/2010 10:43:49 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
uh, sure, a clean kill...
I mean, I can go walk up and shoot someone's dog in the head for no reason and it can be a clean kill. That doesn't make it right. 6/18/2010 10:44:39 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
I can also walk up to a dog suspected to have rabies who just attacked a family, try and control it, realize I can't and shoot it in the head. Why do you immediately assume the best of the animal? 6/18/2010 10:45:44 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't this supposedly a called in response to a dog with rabies or something? 6/18/2010 10:45:47 PM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like seeing animals get shot, so I'm not going to watch the video, and therefore I will not be able to form an opinion on this matter. 6/18/2010 10:45:53 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can also walk up to a dog suspected to have rabies who just attacked a family, try and control it, realize I can't and shoot it in the head." |
Yeah and that would be an incorrect way to handle the situation.6/18/2010 10:48:59 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
Would it? What is the correct way?
V There is no sound anyway, you just have to pay close attention to notice it
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 10:52 PM. Reason : V] 6/18/2010 10:50:45 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
i watched the video on silent cause i wouldnt be able to take any yelps so i didnt hear any first shot 6/18/2010 10:51:10 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, I watched the video and found an article describing the whole situation and while they were there
I'm conflicted after reading both sides...
On the one hand, I know that a scared animal (which was clearly the case seeing as the dog kept darting back and forth) is very unpredictable and they're more likely to attack the choke stick (which you can also clearly see the dog does)...
On the other hand, a man that size should be able to control the animal in question once on the choke stick and put it in the transport crate. In the article I found, it said the dog got off the stick. That just means the officer had poor handling skills of the dog. If *I* can handle 90+ lb scared and/or evil dogs on choke sticks, he should be able to as well.
But, in closing, I don't think he should've shot the dog. Around the time he shot it, it seemed to me like the dog was calming down a bit... In those cases, I think they should bring the dog in question to the shelter, put it in quarantine, then I guess the judge can decide. :\
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 10:52 PM. Reason : ps they were called there because the dog growled at a mom and her child] 6/18/2010 10:52:16 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
oh shit a dog acted like a dog
better double tap it to be safe 6/18/2010 10:53:47 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
If it is a rabies suspect and isn't vaccinated, it is going to be put down regardless.
^The second shot is inconsequential. It seemed to me that the dog was already dead, so what is the problem? And you still never told me the proper way to handle the situation
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 10:55 PM. Reason : ^] 6/18/2010 10:54:15 PM |
skyfallen All American 944 Posts user info edit post |
death by gunshot is only an AVMA approved method if DONE CORRECTLY which was not done in that video; therefore, the chances that the dog suffered for some period of time are pretty good.
stupid ass cops. 6/18/2010 11:02:19 PM |
skyfallen All American 944 Posts user info edit post |
^^ rabies SUSPECT not equal rabies. there's a whole host of protocols to be followed for a suspect. that dog wasnt acting like a dog with either the dumb OR furious form of rabies. it was acting like a dog surrounded by two strange men and cars with flashing lights.
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM. Reason : .] 6/18/2010 11:03:25 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
FOR THE RECORD..... someone called in the dog because it growled at her and her daughter
I didn't see anything about rabies. The owner also didn't register the dog with the city so they got in trouble for that as well.
The cops shouldn't have shot the dog. End of story. 6/18/2010 11:03:52 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
^^^What evidence do you have that it was done incorrectly? The dog immediately collapsed and began twitching. Also, I was merely pointing out that at the time, the details weren't known and I presented a hypothetical situation in which their actions would be justified. I'm still interested to hear why in that situation they wouldn't be. 6/18/2010 11:08:27 PM |
Samwise16 All American 12710 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.hannibal.net/news/x1600620381/LaGrange-dog-owner-vows-to-fight-for-law-changes 6/18/2010 11:09:16 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, it would appear I was wrong about it being a clean kill. My bad
Edit: If the allegations are true about it growling unprovoked at a 6 year old, the dog needed to be disposed of. I've personally been involved in a situation in which a very aggressive pit bull was frequently on my family's property and was hindering our piece of mind regarding my niece and nephew's ability to play outside, and I dealt with the situation accordingly. It sucked, yes, but bottom line is people > dog
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 11:16 PM. Reason : moar] 6/18/2010 11:11:43 PM |
skyfallen All American 944 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ AVMA approved means a straight shot, like a captive bolt, to the front of the head. that dog was shot from the side.
**could** have killed instantly, just saying it wasnt the AVMA approved method which has been shown to cause the least suffering.
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 11:18 PM. Reason : and based on that article...shooting it in the chest first definately caused suffering. ] 6/18/2010 11:15:28 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
The AVMA isn't like the be all end all either 6/18/2010 11:17:33 PM |
skyfallen All American 944 Posts user info edit post |
^ it is when you take an oath. 6/18/2010 11:19:02 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure the cops didn't take the Veterinarian's Oath 6/18/2010 11:20:25 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the allegations are true about it growling unprovoked at a 6 year old, the dog needed to be disposed of. I've personally been involved in a situation in which a very aggressive pit bull was frequently on my family's property and was hindering our piece of mind regarding my niece and nephew's ability to play outside, and I dealt with the situation accordingly. It sucked, yes, but bottom line is people > dog" |
You don't know anything about dogs and shouldn't be entrusted to make decisions about their life.6/18/2010 11:21:03 PM |
skyfallen All American 944 Posts user info edit post |
^ i am normally non-religious, but i like your way of thinking.. 6/18/2010 11:22:30 PM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the god damn police
i hate them so fucking much 6/18/2010 11:23:02 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
Well, against God's will, I have plenty of guns and the desire to protect my family (as well as quite a bit of training in veterinary medicine, and several dogs of my own) 6/18/2010 11:23:17 PM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
you murdered someone's pet
i'm cross referencing random bits of information i've learned about you from the internets to see if i can figure out whose dog you killed
if i'm successful i will send my findings to the appropriate law enforcement agency
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM. Reason : s] 6/18/2010 11:25:06 PM |
petejames All American 2236 Posts user info edit post |
better than somebody's pet murdering my niece
Go for it. I'm not even sure whose dog it was, honestly. Alexander County Sheriff's Department, btw. Ask for Arthur Duncan (the sheriff) personally, tell him I had you call
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 11:33 PM. Reason : ] 6/18/2010 11:25:37 PM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
that made it easier
you are going to be surprised when you learn whose dog that was 6/19/2010 12:22:48 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
THEY DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER
6/19/2010 12:36:02 AM |
LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
NO ONE CARES WHEN THEY SHOOT MINORITIES.
Sting and the gang that is. 6/19/2010 2:57:37 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
wouldn't mind if someone shot both of these cops
and then ran them over afterwards 6/19/2010 3:35:16 AM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
WRAL REPORTS: CIVIL UNREST IN WAKE OF DOG SHOOTING, SAYS TWW CORRESPONDENT 6/19/2010 3:46:59 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
ITT, God reveals he would let a rabid dog maul his children...who are probably bought from Africa, because why make more kids and contribute to the world's problems when you can import them.
Fuckin racist. 6/19/2010 5:54:45 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Edit: If the allegations are true about it growling unprovoked at a 6 year old, the dog needed to be disposed of. I've personally been involved in a situation in which a very aggressive pit bull was frequently on my family's property and was hindering our piece of mind regarding my niece and nephew's ability to play outside, and I dealt with the situation accordingly. It sucked, yes, but bottom line is people > dog" |
that is absolutely retarded. Yes if the dog came on your property I could understand, but it was chained up on it's own turf. Have you ever heard of a guard dog? This is a natural instinct of dogs to be protective of their area and "flock" (be it other animals or owners and family). If you ever came and walked by my house while I was walking my dog and you came up and he growled, and then you tried to tell me he needed to be put down because of this? You better beleive we would have problems and no shelter or judge if you tried to mMs it a legal issue would ever side with you.
On q separate note: did it say if the kid was in a stroller? I know my dog doesn't like things that roll (strollers, trash cans, shopping carts, bikes, etc...) so it could have been that. People have come by with strollers and freaked out thinking he wants to attack their baby. I have to explain it is not the baby but the stroller6/19/2010 8:10:21 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
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elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
6/19/2010 8:40:47 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
wait, what? gronke is pissed about something?
6/19/2010 9:14:45 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Those cops, and probably 75% of all other cops, deserve to die in the same manner. Cops are not only the scum of the Earth, they are murderers, and shit heads.
VIVA LA REVOLUCION! 6/19/2010 9:48:49 AM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
America's largest gang. 6/19/2010 10:01:41 AM |
billytalent Suspended 12909 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the god damn police
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6681531n&tag=mncol;lst;1 7/18/2010 11:52:08 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
did the video cut off right before the one cop maced the shirtless guy? 7/18/2010 11:55:22 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
^ At least that officer was properly disciplined and the chief admitted wrongdoing.
Too often an internal investigation reveals that the police "acted properly" and the officer is given paid leave and then put back on the force. 7/18/2010 11:57:30 PM |