crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7960709/
Dude was just found innocent, his defense: she was lying (although I'm pretty sure he is still a scum bag)
Quote : | " Former teacher denies indecent liberties charges
RALEIGH, N.C. — A former first-grade teacher in Wake County denied any wrongdoing Wednesday in a case in which he's accused of taking indecent liberties with a 7-year-old student.
George Johnson said the child, who attended Wakelon Elementary School in Zebulon where Johnson worked, had a history of lying and not being truthful.
Johnson, 61, of 1794 Ravenwing Drive in Fuquay-Varina, was arrested last July on two counts each of taking indecent liberties with a child and indecent liberties with a student by a teacher.
He resigned from his job a month later after being a teacher in the Wake County Public School System since 2007.
The charges stem from two incidents in May 2009, where Johnson allegedly had improper contact with the girl while at school.
If convicted, Johnson could face a maximum of 52 months in prison, prosecutors said." |
7/14/2010 6:08:00 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Trifflin ass hoe. 7/14/2010 6:09:53 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
saw a picture of him, no mustache so he's probably clean 7/14/2010 6:11:15 PM |
moron All American 34041 Posts user info edit post |
If he's been found not guilty, it seems really grimy for WRAL to publish his home address like that. WTF ??!?
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:20 PM. Reason : ] 7/14/2010 6:20:04 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree. Lame.
Didn't somebody just get released from prison because the child that had accused him recanted? (something from the Duke Innocence Project)
[this maybe: http://www.law.duke.edu/news/story?id=3630&u=52 or this http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2010/07/innocence.html]
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:31 PM. Reason : ] 7/14/2010 6:28:23 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
Believe it or not, I just served as the foreman on the jury for this case. 7/14/2010 6:29:33 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
ill believe you were the fore-woman
and can you elaborate a little bit on it
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM. Reason : e] 7/14/2010 6:30:13 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
In fact, I *just* got home. We stayed late to render a verdict so that it wouldn't run into another day. 7/14/2010 6:30:41 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
LOL...hey tww you're never going to believe what i have just sat through....oh, wait there's already a thread about it 7/14/2010 6:31:52 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
i have a boner now 7/14/2010 6:33:35 PM |
bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
I'm glad its over for you bottombaby
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:39 PM. Reason : /lazy] 7/14/2010 6:34:47 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
so what was the verdict? 7/14/2010 6:35:19 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
As much as I hate child sexual abuse, I just as much hate it when someone leads a child to lie about it being done.
I don't know if this is what happened in this case, but if that little girl did lie then that really fucking sucks, and I'd be looking at the parents to see if they were trying to push for this to happen for a few extra bucks. 7/14/2010 6:38:02 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
We found him not guilty on all charges.
The state did not adequately prove their case to satisfy all 12 jurors of his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. There were mixed opinions all around of whether or not the girl was telling the truth, but little doubt that there was not sufficient evidence to find him guilty. 7/14/2010 6:40:10 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
why would anyone have to lead her to lie? as someone who works with kids you should realize that they will lie for no reason sometimes.
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:46 PM. Reason : multitasking] 7/14/2010 6:46:06 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
ehh nm
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 6:47 PM. Reason : nm] 7/14/2010 6:47:03 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
just another lying slut trying to bring another good man down 7/14/2010 6:47:15 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
so far we have described a 7 year old child as:
a trifflin ass hoe and a lying slut
this is why i posted this in CC 7/14/2010 6:49:55 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why would anyone have to lead her to lie? as someone who works with kids you should realize that they will lie for no reason sometimes. " |
Because something like that is not something that a 6 year old girl would make up on her own. If a 6 year old girl is saying that her teacher touched her and her teacher didn't really touch her there is something else going on. Either someone got her to lie about it or she had been abused by someone else.
That's why it is so important to take it very seriously anytime a young child talks about something like that.
However, if she did make that up on her own then she is not getting the proper supervision at home and being exposed to things that she should not be exposed to.7/14/2010 6:50:49 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
at least he was hot reference? no, not yet, ok i'll wait 7/14/2010 6:52:14 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
The little girl in question is a very brilliant 7 year old little girl with older siblings. Also, the things that she accused him of aren't as lascivious as the imagination might lead you to believe. 7/14/2010 6:54:49 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
Well really what I'm saying is generalized. Which I know isn't the case for all situations. I don't know the details of that case, so I don't really know.
However, from my past experience what I have said has been the case. 7/14/2010 6:57:39 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
so odds on this guy ever getting his job back? 7/14/2010 6:57:43 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
not at the same school, that's for sure 7/14/2010 7:03:43 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
sawahash listen, i posted this in CC for the lol's from people calling this girl a lying whore, not soapbox or the lounge, stop trying to make this serious and call that 7 year old a lying whore 7/14/2010 7:05:50 PM |
moron All American 34041 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because something like that is not something that a 6 year old girl would make up on her own. If a 6 year old girl is saying that her teacher touched her and her teacher didn't really touch her there is something else going on. Either someone got her to lie about it or she had been abused by someone else. " |
Latarian Milton was 7 years old when he said "it's fun to do bad things."
Some events that recently transpired with a friend of mine (that i can't go into) has convinced me that kids can be vicious and cruel with their lies. it's obviously VERY rare, but it can happen. Kids can learn more than our society often expects of them, and some kids figure this out on their own.7/14/2010 7:06:05 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt that he is going to want to go back into teaching after this whole experience. It was really sad because it was his first full year teaching his own class in Wake County. 7/14/2010 7:06:35 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
was the girl hot? 7/14/2010 7:06:38 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
thats more like it 7/14/2010 7:07:46 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so odds on this guy ever getting his job back?" |
This is the real tragedy. He did nothing, yet his life is ruined.
How do we stop this? We can't just keep suspects' identities secret, can we? (and only make public the identities of actual convicts...) I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work for a variety of reasons.
So how do we stop this? This is serious shit. (sorry crazy_carl)7/14/2010 7:12:53 PM |
crazy_carl All American 4073 Posts user info edit post |
oh well, yall can have it 7/14/2010 7:14:59 PM |
G.O.D hates 4 lokos 4694 Posts user info edit post |
my neice is 4 and lies all the time. 7/14/2010 7:18:17 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He did nothing, yet his life is ruined." |
were you at the trial?
he might have done something...7/14/2010 7:35:26 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ Oh, yeah, sorry.
He might have done something. Might have.
No, you're right. It's perfectly okay to ruin the life of someone who might have done something.
Every singly one of you that thinks it's okay that this guy's life is ruined deserves to be falsely accused of some heinous crime and have your lives ruined. You fucking monsters. 7/14/2010 7:39:26 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
leave it to indy to try to protect the reputations of child rapists and pervert molestors 7/14/2010 7:41:16 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ QED
(There's no difference between being accused of a crime, and actually being guilty. You heard it here first. ) 7/14/2010 7:44:36 PM |
bottombaby IRL 21952 Posts user info edit post |
In fact, the jury was instructed that the accused is presumed innocent and has to prove nothing in this type of case. The entire burden is on the State to prove that the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt of the crimes that he is accused of committing. 7/14/2010 7:47:44 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ ...and even if found not guilty, they might actually be guilty. The same way someone never even charged might actually be guilty. Being accused of a crime versus not being accused of a crime matters not in terms of one's presumption of innocence.
Anyone that disagrees honestly deserves to be falsely accused of some heinous crime. (Well, maybe you don't actually deserve it, but you better fucking get a clue.)
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 7:57 PM. Reason : ] 7/14/2010 7:52:03 PM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
my 2nd cousin, when she was 6, told my grandma that her parents yell at her and make her sleep outside in the dog house at night. complete lie. she lied A LOT and about everything when she was little. i hope she doesn't do it as much now since she's like 14 or something. 7/14/2010 7:54:33 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ Thank you.
and this:
http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2010/07/innocence.html 7/14/2010 7:58:36 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
come on indy, i was just joshin ya.
no one here is a soccer mom ok... 7/14/2010 8:01:41 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
"Joshin" me? That's anti-Semitic, fool.
7/14/2010 8:03:29 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You know indy gets his panties in a twist easily. 7/14/2010 8:04:40 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh, yeah, sorry.
He might have done something. Might have.
No, you're right. It's perfectly okay to ruin the life of someone who might have done something." |
Oh look, a scarecrow argument in chit chat. how cute.
You're all up in here spouting off like you know the ins and outs of the case, when it appears you don't. All we know is he was found not guilty in a trial. Doesn't mean he's not a creepy dude who did some creepy shit.
Quote : | "You know indy gets his panties in a twist easily." |
that he does. i'm assuming it's an act, but who knows. maybe he really is tweaking out all the time. could be drug induced.]7/14/2010 8:15:47 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ No shit. Just like someone who was never even charged might be.
Quote : | "and even if found not guilty, they might actually be guilty. The same way someone never even charged might actually be guilty. Being accused of a crime versus not being accused of a crime matters not in terms of one's presumption of innocence." |
Quote : | "in here spouting off like you know the ins and outs of the case" |
where was I doing that? (nowhere)
Quote : | "i'm assuming it's an act" |
Ahhhh you got me. No, you're right. It's just an act. Just like all the criminal defense lawyers out there.... It's aaaaaalll an act. (you are a disgrace to everything just and decent.)
[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 8:21 PM. Reason : ]7/14/2010 8:17:49 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
since you seem to be confused, here is where you spoke like you knew everything about the case, and what this old dude did and didn't do to a 7 year old.
Quote : | "This is the real tragedy. He did nothing, yet his life is ruined." |
Point is we don't know what he did and didn't do. If you have some information not in the WRAL article feel free to share.]7/14/2010 8:19:57 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
^ I misspoke. (I know that's not allowed. You'll just say I'm back-peddling. ) Read all of my other posts here. I quickly clarified. But of course, you'll just troll me some more.... 7/14/2010 8:23:27 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
kids can be fucking douchebags
and not all kids are good kids, and it doesn't always happen that way cause of broken homes or bad social situations
not saying this kid was lying but we gotta stop pretending all kids are pure and innocent bundles of joy 7/14/2010 8:31:23 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
indy is a lil bitch. 7/14/2010 8:52:42 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
hahah, I wanna see someone bring rape charges against synapse.
What, you're INNOCENT?! So you say...... 7/14/2010 8:55:06 PM |