What do you see more of:

-black or other people of minoritiy races at tea parties
-white people at the NAACP meetings

Do the democrats want the colored people from the naacp as auto votes, or leaders? the tea party wants them as leaders, like alan west. where are the new black democrats, or are they only allowed to vote for their white leaders?
http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2010/07/14/the_national_association_for_the_advancement_of_coddled_people
http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2010/07/17/andrew_breitbart_to_naacp%E2%80%99s_ben_jealous_go_to_hell!

7/18/2010 11:37:36 AM

they are different organizations.

one is a political party and the other is an advocacy group. i dont understand the comparing of the demographics of the two.

[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]

7/18/2010 11:55:17 AM

I see the Tea Party as an advocacy group, not as a political party (even though they do have "Party" in their name). They organize and advocate for changes in Washington, mainly to push the conservative agenda, they protest the Democrats, and they really aren't organized enough to do much beyond protesting. They are, mostly a grassroots movement. Until they formally organize and join together as a whole, I can't take them seriously as an actual party. Until they get to the point that they nominate a presidential candidate, I don't see them as a party.

While I do agree that the NAACP and the Tea Party are different, they are still advocacy groups. What they advocate though, are different.

7/18/2010 1:19:09 PM

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"black democrats, or are they only allowed to vote for their white leaders?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress
United States House of Representatives

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"In modern era Representative? Party? State? Term? Lifespan? Oscar Stanton De Priest Republican Illinois 1929–1935 1871–1951 Arthur W. Mitchell Democrat Illinois 1935–1943 1883–1968 William L. Dawson Democrat Illinois 1943–1970 1886–1970 Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Democrat New York 1945–1967, 1967–1971 1908–1972 Charles Diggs Democrat Michigan 1955–1980 1922–1998 Robert N.C. Nix, Sr. Democrat Pennsylvania 1958–1979 1898–1987 Augustus F. Hawkins Democrat California 1963–1991 1907–2007 John Conyers Democrat Michigan 1965–present 1929- Bill Clay Democrat Missouri 1969–2001 1931- Louis Stokes Democrat Ohio 1969–1999 1925- Shirley Chisholm Democrat New York 1969–1983 1924–2005 George W. Collins Democrat Illinois 1970–1972 1925–1972 Ron Dellums Democrat California 1971–1998 1935- Ralph Metcalfe Democrat Illinois 1971–1978 1910–1978 Parren Mitchell Democrat Maryland 1971–1987 1922–2007 Charles B. Rangel Democrat New York 1971–present 1930- Yvonne Brathwaite Burke Democrat California 1973–1979 1932- Cardiss Collins Democrat Illinois 1973–1997 1931- Barbara Jordan Democrat Texas 1973–1979 1936–1996 Andrew Young Democrat Georgia 1973–1977 1932- Harold Ford, Sr. Democrat Tennessee 1975–1997 1945- Julian C. Dixon Democrat California 1979–2000 1934–2000 William H. Gray, III Democrat Pennsylvania 1979–1991 1941- Mickey Leland Democrat Texas 1979–1989 1944–1989 Bennett M. Stewart Democrat Illinois 1979–1981 1912–1988 George W. Crockett, Jr. Democrat Michigan 1980–1991 1909–1997 Mervyn M. Dymally Democrat California 1981–1993 1926- Gus Savage Democrat Illinois 1981–1993 1925- Harold Washington Democrat Illinois 1981–1983 1922–1987 Katie Hall Democrat Indiana 1982–1985 1938- Major Owens Democrat New York 1983–2007 1936- Ed Towns Democrat New York 1983–present 1934- Alan Wheat Democrat Missouri 1983–1995 1951- Charles Hayes Democrat Illinois 1983–1993 1918–1997 Alton R. Waldon, Jr. Democrat New York 1986–1987 1936- Mike Espy Democrat Mississippi 1987–1993 1953- Floyd H. Flake Democrat New York 1987–1998 1945- John Lewis Democrat Georgia 1987–present 1940- Kweisi Mfume Democrat Maryland 1987–1996 1948- Donald M. Payne Democrat New Jersey 1989–present 1934- Craig Anthony Washington Democrat Texas 1989–1995 1941- Barbara-Rose Collins Democrat Michigan 1991–1997 1939- Gary Franks Republican Connecticut 1991–1997 1953- William J. Jefferson Democrat Louisiana 1991–2009 1947- Maxine Waters Democrat California 1991–present 1938- Lucien E. Blackwell Democrat Pennsylvania 1991–1995 1931–2003 Eva M. Clayton Democrat North Carolina 1992–2003 1934- Sanford Bishop Democrat Georgia 1993–present 1947- Corrine Brown Democrat Florida 1993–present 1946- Jim Clyburn Democrat South Carolina 1993–present 1940- Cleo Fields Democrat Louisiana 1993–1997 1962- Alcee Hastings Democrat Florida 1993–present 1936- Earl Hilliard Democrat Alabama 1993–2003 1942- Eddie Bernice Johnson Democrat Texas 1993–present 1935- Cynthia McKinney Democrat Georgia 1993–2003, 2005–2007 1955- Carrie P. Meek Democrat Florida 1993–2003 1926- Mel Reynolds Democrat Illinois 1993–1995 1952- Bobby Rush Democrat Illinois 1993–present 1946- Robert C. Scott Democrat Virginia 1993–present 1947- Walter Tucker Democrat California 1993–1995 1957- Mel Watt Democrat North Carolina 1993–present 1945- Albert Wynn Democrat Maryland 1993–2008 1951- Bennie Thompson Democrat Mississippi 1993–present 1948- Chaka Fattah Democrat Pennsylvania 1995–present 1956- Sheila Jackson-Lee Democrat Texas 1995–present 1950- J. C. Watts Republican Oklahoma 1995–2003 1957- Jesse Jackson, Jr. Democrat Illinois 1995–present 1965- Juanita Millender-McDonald Democrat California 1996–2007 1938–2007 Elijah Cummings Democrat Maryland 1996–present 1951- Julia Carson Democrat Indiana 1997–2007 1938–2007 Danny K. Davis Democrat Illinois 1997–present 1941- Harold Ford, Jr. Democrat Tennessee 1997–2007 1970- Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick Democrat Michigan 1997–present 1945- Gregory W. Meeks Democrat New York 1998–present 1953- Barbara Lee Democrat California 1998–present 1946- Stephanie Tubbs Jones Democrat Ohio 1999–2008 1949–2008 William Lacy Clay, Jr. Democrat Missouri 2001–present 1956- Diane Watson Democrat California 2001–present 1933- Frank Ballance Democrat North Carolina 2003–2004 1942- Artur Davis Democrat Alabama 2003–present 1967- Denise Majette Democrat Georgia 2003–2005 1955- Kendrick Meek Democrat Florida 2003–present 1966- David Scott Democrat Georgia 2003–present 1946- G. K. Butterfield Democrat North Carolina 2004–present 1947- Emanuel Cleaver Democrat Missouri 2005–present 1944- Al Green Democrat Texas 2005–present 1947- Gwen Moore Democrat Wisconsin 2005–present 1951- Yvette D. Clarke Democrat New York 2007–present 1964- Keith Ellison Democrat Minnesota 2007–present 1963- Hank Johnson Democrat Georgia 2007–present 1954- Laura Richardson Democrat California 2007–present 1962- André Carson Democrat Indiana 2008–present 1974- Donna Edwards Democrat Maryland 2008–present 1958- Marcia Fudge Democrat Ohio 2008–present 1952-"

United States Senate

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"Senator Party State Term Lifespan Edward William Brooke, III Republican Massachusetts 1967–1979 1919- Carol Moseley Braun Democrat Illinois 1993–1999 1947- Barack Obama Democrat Illinois 2005–2008 1961- Roland Burris Democrat Illinois 2009 - 1937-"

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/111-congress-african-americans.html

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"A list of the African-Americans currently serving in the 111th Congress. There are 42 black members in the House of Representatives and one in the Senate. State House Senate Alabama Artur Davis (D) California Barbara Lee (D) Maxine Waters (D) Diane E. Watson (D) Laura Richardson (D) District of Columbia Eleanor Holmes Norton (D)1 Florida Corrine Brown (D) Alcee L. Hastings (D) Kendrick Meek (D) Georgia Sanford D. Bishop, Jr. (D) John Lewis (D) Cynthia McKinney (D) David Scott (D) Henry "Hank" Johnson, Jr. (D) Illinois Danny K. Davis (D) Jesse L. Jackson, Jr. (D) Bobby L. Rush (D) Roland Burris (D) Indiana André Carson (D) Maryland Elijah E. Cummings (D) Donna F. Edwards (D) Michigan Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D) John Conyers, Jr. (D) Minnesota Keith Ellison (D) Mississippi Bennie Thompson (D) Missouri William Lacy Clay, Jr. (D) Emanuel Cleaver II (D) New Jersey Donald M. Payne (D) New York Gregory W. Meeks (D) Yvette D. Clarke (D) Charles B. Rangel (D) Edolphus Towns (D) North Carolina G. K. Butterfield (D) Melvin Watt (D) Ohio Marcia L. Fudge (D) Pennsylvania Chaka Fattah (D) South Carolina James E. Clyburn (D) Texas Al Green (D) Sheila Jackson Lee (D) Eddie Bernice Johnson (D) Virgin Islands Donna M. Christensen (D)1 Virginia Robert C. Scott (D) Wisconsin Gwen Moore (D) "

Worried about the number of black democrats? I've highlighted the republicans for you for comparison.

7/18/2010 2:37:52 PM

do you even know anything about the black tea party leaders or are you just trying to avoid what i said?

the old guard taht you posted is on the way out. who are the new black democrats?

7/18/2010 3:06:17 PM

did you hear about the south carolina democrats? a new young black candidate tried to run for senate that wasnt a part of the naacp democrat crowd. he wanted fewer taxes, more jobs, and to end the regulation and union problem. and what did they do? tried to kick him off the ballot for "approved" candedates, a white guy, which is better than a black that wont support their naacp believes.

you are not allowed to be for less government according to democarts if youe black?

7/18/2010 3:11:54 PM

DaBird, the Tea Party movement isn't exactly a political party

Anyway a better comparison may be the civil-rights movement vs. the tea-party movement, or perhaps between the NAACP and FreedomWorks, two organizations well-known in their respective movements; for the first comparison it should be noted that Mark Potok of the SPLC is a prominent white man in the anti-hate wing of the civil-rights movement, although I am not sure more generally how widespread white people are in the movement, especially that portion more concerned about race than gender, sexual orientation, or gender identity and expression.

[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ^Sadly the extreme preference of blacks for the Democrats gives off that impression

7/18/2010 4:40:03 PM

ok fair enough. it is an aspiring political party and therefore much different than the NAACP.

7/18/2010 5:06:42 PM

I don't think the Tea Party movement is an aspiring political party, either.

I always thought it was a decentralized advocacy group, (and therefore [still] much different than the NAACP.)




Also, does the NAACP accept public funds? If so....




[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 5:19 PM. Reason : ]

7/18/2010 5:18:39 PM

Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams expelled over 'Colored People' letter

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"Mark Williams, a California radio host who is leading protests in New York against a proposed mosque near Ground Zero and has drawn Sarah Palin to his rallies, had previously called the President an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug" and said Muslims were "animals" who worship "a monkey god.” … In the letter Williams posted on his blog, he wrote in what he said was the voice of slaves: "Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. "We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop! "

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/07/18/2010-07-18_tea_party_express_leader_mark_williams_expelled_over_colored_people_letter.html

LOL

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"Just last week, he posted a fake letter from a fictional civil rights leader to Abraham Lincoln intended as a mocking rebuke to complaints from the NAACP. A sample: “How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn?” Williams, once again, yanked the blog post after complaints. As of this writing, Palin and other conservative leaders have yet to denounce Williams. The refusal of mainstream conservatives to condemn such poisonous raving is exactly what the NAACP is complaining about. ... Another controversial figure is Dale Robertson, who owns the Web site TeaParty.org and describes himself as a founder and leader of the movement. Robertson was photographed at a Houston rally in Feb. 27, 2009 holding a sign that reads “Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = Niggar.” "

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/07/18/2010-07-18_were_better_than_this_the_rising_tide_of_racial_mudslinging_will_not_win_over_a_.html?page=1

Wow, 2 tea party leaders independently doing really racist things… interesting…


[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 5:44 PM. Reason : ]

7/18/2010 5:34:13 PM

to be fair, the "niggar" sign isn't racist. it's just in horribly bad taste. and I mean horribly bad taste

you should also note that he was kicked out of the event for that sign. wow, sure sounds like that Tea Party is harbouring and promoting racism, doesn't it?

also, the Tea Party express guy is classless. way to go, asshat

[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM. Reason : ]

7/18/2010 8:03:57 PM

^I agree that the sign isn't racist. In fact, I'm a little miffed by people's reactions to it because, in my opinion, the fact that he wrote and carried that sign may indicate that he's less racist than most.

It's possibly stupid, extreme, offensive, and insensitive to apply that term to a taxpayer in today's world. But, at the same time, he's showing that he understands a bit about what it means to be the nigger: a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised. If he really feels like the nigger, I don't think he's racist for saying so.

Again, stupid, extreme, offensive, and insensitive, but not racist...

7/18/2010 9:10:14 PM

my god, bridget and I agree. anybody got a temperature reading from Hell?

7/18/2010 10:07:04 PM

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"to be fair, the "niggar" sign isn't racist."

7/18/2010 10:11:18 PM

and your point would be...

7/18/2010 10:46:48 PM

how many non-racists do you know that call a slave a "niggar"

you can marginalize it all you want, but that sign is racist

[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 11:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2010 11:37:46 PM

Good point. I honed in on the N-word and didn't pay attention to the "slave owner" prompt. I still think you could technically interpret that in a non-racist way.

I'm just having trouble believing that hardcore racist would just totally out themselves by racistly tossing the N-word on a sign and parading around with their face out in front of cameras...

But, from his own website...

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"Dale, is the progeny of a long list of heroes, being 1 of 5 children he assumed the responsibility of the protector of the family after his father's early demise. His father was a decorated Korean War hero suffering as a double amputee Veteran. As a child, Dale proved himself by assisting his step-father, a decorated Vietnam Veteran, who suffered from the result of his tour of Duty. While caring for the family, Dale was an inspirational player in one of the most successful High School sport teams. His history included facing down ethnic gang members while protecting the innocent and the U.S. flag."

http://www.teaparty.org/aboutus.html

He's a racist with a racist sign...

And I'm an idiot.

7/19/2010 12:23:10 AM

You have to figure that the election of the first black president is going to bring these people out of the woodwork...

It's commendable though you would give people the benefit of the doubt that they legitimately care about the issues, and not race.

7/19/2010 1:28:26 AM

Biden says tea party not a racist movement
(AP) – 14 hours ago

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"'Very conservative, very different views on government and a whole lot of things,' Biden said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's 'This Week.' 'But it is not a racist organization.' President Barack Obama doesn't think so, either, Biden said."

http://tinyurl.com/2uprt2f

7/19/2010 5:58:49 AM

The people within the tea party trying to use race in any way to make their point are f'ing idiots and distract from the many good things they stand for. Very frustrating.

7/19/2010 9:02:26 AM