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GeniuSxBoY
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Disprove me please.




[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:04 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2010 10:04:30 PM

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DONE.

7/19/2010 10:05:36 PM

qntmfred
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^ nailed it

7/19/2010 10:07:42 PM

Cherokee
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^^

7/19/2010 10:09:23 PM

AndyMac
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The bar would break

7/19/2010 10:09:34 PM

merbig
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Sounds like you're also using the assumption that you are able to provide enough force to cause such a large mass to move that quickly. That's a baseless assumption.

7/19/2010 10:09:36 PM

TaterSalad
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And if you put a helicopter on top of the center of the merry-go-round, it will take off

7/19/2010 10:10:55 PM

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ifyou could build a merry go round that big, that would stay connected at that speed, and you could get something strong enough to move it, without it snapping then yes.

but that if is an impossible if. so theres no way this is possible.

7/19/2010 10:11:28 PM

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7^facebook profile picture.

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:12 PM. Reason : 7]

7/19/2010 10:12:26 PM

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fuckin' magnets

7/19/2010 10:12:59 PM

qntmfred
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^^^ it's possible

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2010 10:13:10 PM

merbig
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^ Is a dreamer.

7/19/2010 10:14:27 PM

qntmfred
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pfft, i did like 20 merry go round copters like last week

7/19/2010 10:15:56 PM

merbig
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^ Prove it.

7/19/2010 10:16:27 PM

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I didn't see this was a merry go round, but anyway this would still break even if you could apply enough force.

The only way this is possible is if you assume an invincible object.

So if you grant one physical impossibility, then sure it might be possible. But since you already have to break physics to get to attempt it there's no point because it won't happen.

7/19/2010 10:19:16 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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It may not be possible is the realm and technology that exists today, but saying it can't be done is like saying electricity or cell phones is impossible back in the middle ages.

7/19/2010 10:19:48 PM

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say you have a cord of 200 tex carbon fiber, that would make such a length weigh 59.9 metric tons

what is the energy required to sling that around for the linear velocity of the moving end?

7/19/2010 10:19:53 PM

qntmfred
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^^^^ i already said i did it. the only reason you have to prove stuff is to show you did it

and i already said i did it

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:20 PM. Reason : you calling me a liar?]

7/19/2010 10:19:54 PM

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it's not possible, man...Jupiter can't push the car so hard that it goes faster than light

simple as that

7/19/2010 10:20:06 PM

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The molecules comprising the bar would not remain in a straight line; the bar would curve as the force moves through bar.

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM. Reason : a]

7/19/2010 10:20:51 PM

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not this shit again

7/19/2010 10:22:25 PM

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This may be true in classical physics, right, but classical physics is a lie and merely provides useful approximations at a relatively human scale. Relativistic physics reveals that the mass of a node on the edge of the merry-go-round increases as its velocity increases. It would require an amount of energy approaching infinity to move it the closer it got to the speed of light. Never happen.

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 10:23 PM. Reason : P.S. Fuck off, DNL.]

7/19/2010 10:22:36 PM

m52ncsu
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you are ignoring time dilation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity

7/19/2010 10:23:40 PM

mambagrl
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also the centrifugal forces would be astronomical.

7/19/2010 10:26:42 PM

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ACtually theres no way it would ever work.

Time would actually slow down at the moment you were approaching the speed of light and therefore you would never reach the true speed.

its the same instance as if you are on a ship that is going around earth at the speed of light and you decide to run from one end to the other...time would actually slow down for you in your space you occupy and you would never actually breach.

its proven physics

7/19/2010 10:27:22 PM

m52ncsu
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here is one: if you are spinning a 1lb ball on a string, how fast do you have to spin it so the string is parallel to the ground

7/19/2010 10:27:46 PM

dweedle
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ive always had a hard time believing in time as an actual thing

in my mind, i treat time in the same regard as length, just a measurement

7/19/2010 10:29:43 PM

m52ncsu
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and like length (space) it can expand and contract

7/19/2010 10:32:48 PM

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Quote :
"if you are spinning a 1lb ball on a string, how fast do you have to spin it so the string is parallel to the ground"


190% rpms

7/19/2010 10:45:58 PM

m52ncsu
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it's obvious for most of us, but for the people that couldn't figure out the treadmill thing it's a mystery

7/19/2010 10:46:49 PM

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I was reading recently about time dilation in regards to satellites. The GPS satellite clocks lose 7 microseconds a day due to time slowing down due to their speed, around 9,000mph. But because they occupy an orbit high enough to escape some of the earth's effect on spacetime(gravity), they gain 45 microseconds a day. The net change is that to an observer on the earth the GPS clocks gain 38 microsends per day, or almost 14 milliseconds per year.

The space shuttle occupies such a low orbit however, the primary effect is mostly time dilation due to speed...in other words an astronaut's watch would lose a small amount of time each day...Or they would get to live slightly longer in terms of time on the earth. The astronaut's personal view of time, of course, would remain unchanged, and not just because the numbers are small.

7/19/2010 10:51:06 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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I guess that begs the question: Why do we age? Is it time? Is it in our DNA blueprint? Do we lose cell information as cells split and copy itself over time?

7/19/2010 10:58:56 PM

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We age because there is no evolutionary reason to exist very long past the end of sexual maturity...which ends because...hell if I know.

7/19/2010 11:02:51 PM

m52ncsu
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So wait is geniusboy dnl? I thought it was pryderi

7/20/2010 8:14:48 AM

BobbyDigital
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hahaha, it would make sense that he's DNL, every time i read one of his posts, my eyes start bleeding.

7/20/2010 8:17:01 AM

JeffreyBSG
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^^^
pretty good answer, man
(maybe sexual maturity ends because it's not worth the trouble to have old, broken-down parents trying to raise young)

7/20/2010 8:29:24 AM

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it would take off

7/20/2010 8:42:19 AM

tl
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Here's my proof that you can go faster than light:


Step 1 - Travel 301000 kilometers
Step 2 - Take less than a second to do so

DONE!

7/20/2010 8:43:49 AM

JeffreyBSG
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some things can, in fact, travel faster than light

there are certain experiments whereby if you let a particle split and then examine half of it, your observation has an instantaneous effect on the other half of the particle, even if it's a million miles away by then

scientists, I think, brush off this "Spooky action at a distance" by claiming that no actual information is conveyed, and therefore that nothing is really moving

but I don't want to talk to a scientist...y'all motherfuckers lyin' and gettin' me pissed

7/20/2010 8:45:02 AM

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Quote :
"Here's my proof that you can go faster than light:


Step 1 - Travel 301000 kilometers
Step 2 - Take less than a second to do so
Step 3 - ????
Step 4 - Profit!!!


DONE!"

7/20/2010 8:47:18 AM

tl
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Step 1 - Place underpants at a location 301000 kilometers away
Step 2 - Retrieve said underpants in less than a second
Step 3 -
Step 4 - PROFIT!

7/20/2010 8:50:48 AM

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we age because the DNA gets damaged when the cell splits, or when there are free radicals, or when we get exposed to radiation

so really its the flimsiness of DNA thats to blame

of course IANAG

7/20/2010 8:51:04 AM

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telomeres be stealin our youths

7/20/2010 9:08:59 AM

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Quote :
"RADIUS

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(2*SpeedOfLight)
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7/20/2010 9:22:16 AM

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7/20/2010 10:22:30 AM

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The bar will take off. Or is that not the argument?

7/20/2010 11:28:54 AM

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7/20/2010 11:30:56 AM

ThePeter
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MY HAIR IS A BIRD
YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID

7/23/2010 12:57:45 PM

Wraith
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Quote :
"Here's my proof that you can go faster than light:


Step 1 - Travel 301000 kilometers
Step 2 - Take less than a second to do so"

7/23/2010 1:40:51 PM

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but does the plane take off or not?

7/23/2010 2:19:09 PM

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