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BubbleBobble
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what are they?

I think it's pretty silly, seeing as most of them were born in America huh

LOL

LOL

LOL African-American

7/23/2010 6:52:41 PM

bassman803
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i prefer the term Mister, or Sir

7/23/2010 6:57:01 PM

BubbleBobble
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you don't count as an African-American

you have white person hair or something

7/23/2010 6:57:35 PM

BubbleBobble
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I should have saved this thread for a "Ask ________ Anything" thread

7/23/2010 6:59:56 PM

FroshKiller
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A co-worker at my last job would nervously settle on "African-American" when casting about for a synonym for black. I enjoyed interrupting him to ask, "What part of Africa is he from?"

7/23/2010 7:02:03 PM

BubbleBobble
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lolololol

7/23/2010 7:02:43 PM

bassman803
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ha


yes, because all 'white' people have the same kinda hair. and all 'black' people have the same kind as well.


both my parents are black, but we've never been to Africa. i guess American would be the most correct term.

7/23/2010 7:03:42 PM

BubbleBobble
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I was born in Nigeria

7/23/2010 7:07:13 PM

merbig
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I was born

7/23/2010 7:07:54 PM

BubbleBobble
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merbig-American

7/23/2010 7:08:22 PM

Optimum
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^^ i was under the impression it was more of an unusual growth thing

7/23/2010 7:10:09 PM

BubbleBobble
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7/23/2010 7:22:37 PM

0EPII1
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What would be the equivalent term for black people in the UK?

African-English? (or -Scottish, -Irish, -Welsh)
African-British?

And to take it to an extreme, if an African settles in say, China, has children there with his African wife, and the kids are granted citizenship, how should the children be referenced?

Chinese?
African?
African-Chinese?
Black?
Black Chinese?

7/23/2010 8:16:08 PM

shmorri2
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Quote :
"One Tribe, one time, one planet, one race
Its all one blood, don't care about your face
The color of your eye or the tone of your skin
Don't care where ya are
Don't care where ya been
Cause where we gonna go
Is where we wanna be
The place where the little language is unity
And the continent is called Pangaea
And the main ideas are connected like a spear
No propaganda, They tried to upper hand us
Cause man I'm loving this peace
Man, man, I'm loving this peace
Man, man, I'm loving this peace
I don't need no leader
That's gonna force feed a
Concept that make me think I need to
Fear my brother and fear my sister
And shoot my neighbor or my big missile
"


-

7/23/2010 8:18:57 PM

AndyMac
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I mean it doesn't bother me. I don't fly off into a crazed anti-PC rant about reverse racism and american oversensitivity every time I hear it like some people.

But I don't use it myself.

7/23/2010 8:23:28 PM

Kickstand
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I have a good black friend who would rather just prefer to be called black. He agrees that most black people in the U.S. were not born in Africa.

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"I was born in Nigeria
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PM me for my bank account # if you have funds to store in an American bank. I'll see what we can do.

7/23/2010 8:39:54 PM

wwwebsurfer
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I just call 'em black. They call me white. I call asian people mid-toned.

It's just a color people, get up off it. Unless you're willing to michael jackson you're stuck that way. Get a tan and shut up.

7/23/2010 8:47:48 PM

shmorri2
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^ +1

7/23/2010 8:55:29 PM

AstralAdvent
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Fuck that. I am a fucking american.


not only were my ancestors already here when your bitch ancestors couldn't manage to grow fucking potatoes and swarmed in totally univited but if i go to africa then im an american just like any one of you. Dont fool yourselves

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

7/23/2010 8:58:02 PM

lewisje
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I actually like the hyphenated terms, because they remind (the majority of) us that our indigenous ancestry was not in America; it's too sad that "European-American" is mostly used by white supremacists like David Duke

but those terms are only appropriate in America; elsewhere terms like "black" or "African" are more appropriate

[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM. Reason : IIRC in the UK it's commonly "Black British"

7/23/2010 9:24:48 PM

BubbleBobble
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I wonder why I asked about this

cause I really don't give a fuck

7/23/2010 9:25:27 PM

ambrosia1231
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"I have a good black friend who would rather just prefer to be called black. He agrees that most black people in the U.S. were not born in Africa."


Conversely, those african-born white people REALLY go and fuck shit up.

7/23/2010 9:29:48 PM

shmorri2
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^^ Careful now, you are starting to sound like Limp Bizkit.

[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:30 PM. Reason : ^.]

7/23/2010 9:29:50 PM

BubbleBobble
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limp triscuit amirite

7/23/2010 9:40:48 PM

shmorri2
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Now I is hungry

All I've had today is a bowl of pasta, a yogurt cup, two corndogs, half a glass of juice, a couple pieces of cantaloupe, and a bagel with cream cheese.


Mmm.. triscuits...

[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]

7/23/2010 9:42:08 PM

TreeTwista10
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you know what?

7/23/2010 9:49:21 PM

jprince11
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I've pretty much stopped saying it after watching the ralphie may stand up talking about it, he made a lot of sense, why don't you call white people european americans then, plus if you actually have a dude from africa like my friend in high school then it just confuses things, and usually whenever a white guy uses the term african american he's making some stupid overly pc statement

just plain black folks are fine with me

7/23/2010 10:29:57 PM

Kris
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7/23/2010 10:40:27 PM

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ibtGod

7/23/2010 10:43:28 PM

lewisje
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^^^as I said, "European-American" is popular only among white supremacists, and that's a damn shame

like David Duke's European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO), formerly known as N.O.F.E.A.R. (National Organization For European American Rights): http://www.whitecivilrights.com/

7/23/2010 11:16:08 PM

God
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Embed please: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYT9Ul1I4ow

7/23/2010 11:23:04 PM

Solinari
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Hey God, where is that picture of the noose you used to post all the time?

7/23/2010 11:29:56 PM

God
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I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, and I know you're just trying to troll me. I never posted anything like that.

[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 11:53 PM. Reason : ]

7/23/2010 11:33:40 PM

TKE-Teg
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I call black people black people.


"ooooooooooh"

7/23/2010 11:38:18 PM

lewisje
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doo DOO doo doo

7/23/2010 11:38:40 PM

Supplanter
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American#The_term_.22African_American.22

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"The term African American carries important political overtones. Earlier terms used to identify Americans of African ancestry were conferred upon the group by colonists and Americans of European ancestry. The terms were included in the wording of various laws and legal decisions which some thought were being used as tools of white supremacy and oppression.[129] There developed among blacks in America a growing desire for a term of self-identification of their own choosing.

...

In the 1980s the term African American was advanced on the model of, for example, German-American or Irish-American to give descendants of American slaves and other American blacks who lived through the slavery-era a heritage and a cultural base.[129] The term was popularized in black communities around the country via word of mouth and ultimately received mainstream use after Jesse Jackson publicly used the term in front of a national audience, subsequently major media outlets adopted its use.[129]

Many blacks in America expressed a preference for the term, as it was formed in the same way as names for others of the many ethnic groups in the nation. Some argued further that, because of the historical circumstances surrounding the capture, enslavement and systematic attempts to de-Africanize blacks in the United States under chattel slavery, most African Americans are unable to trace their ancestry to a specific African nation; hence, the entire continent serves as a geographic marker.

For many, African American is more than a name expressive of cultural and historical roots. The term expresses pride in Africa and a sense of kinship and solidarity with others of the African diaspora—an embrace of pan-Africanism as earlier enunciated by prominent African thinkers such as Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois and George Padmore."

7/23/2010 11:43:59 PM

kdogg(c)
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well, here's the president's take

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"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else."


http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9901E0DD1239E333A25750C1A9669D946496D6CF


[Edited on July 30, 2010 at 5:18 AM. Reason : first quote from wiki...link from NY Times article of that year]

7/30/2010 5:14:45 AM

Nerdchick
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^ I disagree. The awesome thing about America is that you don't have to give up your old nationality when you get here. America is united by an idea, not an ethnicity or nationality. That's why we're doing better with immigration than Europe.

I think America would be diminished if we never had any Greek festivals or we canceled the Highland Games or the various Chinatowns went away. Being proud of where you came from is not mutually exclusive with being proud of where you are.

7/30/2010 6:56:09 AM

wdprice3
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African-American is the most abused and over used ethnic description. Just as with any hyphenated classification, it means they immigrated to here, thus not being a naturalized citizen. We are united by the idea, not the ethnicity, and the idea is that we are all Americans who don't need to segregate ourselves into sub populations/nationalities.

So, just as ^^ posted.

And to me, this is a grammar/language issue not a political/ethnic one. Nothing asks you to give up or forget your heritage; however, for clear and proper communication, we should use words that best describe things, thus African-American would describe an African person who became a citizen of the U.S. Look at any other nationality/ethnicity... most, if not, all consider themselves Americans with xxxxx heritage.

7/30/2010 9:11:13 AM

NeuseRvrRat
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i consider myself a white cracker

7/30/2010 9:13:23 AM

wdprice3
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^honky

7/30/2010 9:52:41 AM

indy
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^^^^
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"this is a grammar/language issue not a political/ethnic one. Nothing asks you to give up or forget your heritage"

7/30/2010 9:54:52 AM

BigHitSunday
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Quote :
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hahahhahah

7/30/2010 10:01:00 AM

SymeGuy69
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Black. It's descriptive. It's visual.

You're not making an assumption about where they came from and where they live.

7/30/2010 10:24:39 AM

LeonIsPro
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7/30/2010 10:27:52 AM

BigHitSunday
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so some of those damned indians you see should be called blacks too cuz them motherfuckers look like they got skimmed up of the surface of the gulf of mexico

7/30/2010 10:34:39 AM

Big4Country
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Don't use the term, if you are white, from Africa, and a naturalized US citizen.

http://www.1010wins.com/Ex-Student-Says-NJ-Medical-School-Discriminated/4374417

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36764



[Edited on July 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2010 3:30:32 PM

joe_schmoe
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who asked you anyhow, creeper?

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"HOT GURLS LIKED MY COSTUME AND THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY.




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7/30/2010 3:37:45 PM

TerdFerguson
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I distinctly remember in High School our civics teacher giving some lame lecture where he repeatedly used "african-american." at some point this black chick raised her hand and said "umm, can you just call us 'black folks'"


I've been doing just that ever since

7/30/2010 3:49:50 PM

BigHitSunday
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then again, some black bitch game to the DJ at the bar i work at and was like "Me and my group...we are black so...can you play...you know...some black music"

he was playin the blues.


so basically that bitch raisin her hand dont mean shit cuz black people as a whole are fuckin retarded nowadays anyway

7/30/2010 3:58:19 PM

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