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takeitback
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"(CNN) -- Seismic cultural shifts about 10,000 years ago rendered the true story of human sexuality so subversive and threatening that for centuries, it has been silenced by religious authorities, pathologized by physicians, studiously ignored by scientists and covered up by moralizing therapists.

In recent decades, the debate over human sexual evolution has entertained only two options: Humans evolved to be either monogamists or polygamists. This tired debate generally devolves into an antagonistic stalemate where women are said to have evolved to seek male-provisioned domesticity while every man secretly yearns for his own harem. The battle between the sexes, we're told, is bred into our blood and bones.

Couples who turn to a therapist for guidance through the inevitable minefields of marriage are likely to receive the confusing message that long-term pair bonding comes naturally to our species, but marriage is still a lot of work.

Few mainstream therapists would contemplate trying to persuade a gay man or lesbian to "grow up, get real, and stop being gay." But most insist that long-term sexual monogamy is "normal," while the curiosity and novelty-seeking inherent in human sexuality are signs of pathology. Thus, couples are led to believe that waning sexual passion in enduring marriages or sexual interest in anyone but their partner portend a failed relationship, when in reality these things often signify nothing more than that we are Homo sapiens.

This is a problem because there is no reason to believe monogamy comes naturally to human beings. In fact, for millions of years, evolutionary forces have cultivated human libido to the point where ours is arguably the most sexual species on Earth.

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Our bodies, minds and sexual habits all reflect a highly sexual primate. Research from primatology, anthropology, anatomy and psychology points to the same conclusion: A nonpossessive, gregarious sexuality was the human norm until the rise of agriculture and private property just 10,000 years ago, about 5 percent of anatomically modern humans' existence on Earth.

The two primate species closest to us lend strong -- if blush-inducing -- support to this vision. Ovulating female chimps have intercourse dozens of times per day, with most or all of the willing males, and bonobos famously enjoy frequent group sex that leaves everyone relaxed and conflict-free.

The human body tells the same story. Men's testicles are far larger than those of any monogamous or polygynous primate, hanging vulnerably outside the body where cooler temperatures help preserve standby sperm cells for multiple ejaculations. Men sport the longest, thickest primate penis, as well as an embarrassing tendency to reach orgasm when the woman is just getting warmed up. These are all strong indications of so-called sperm competition in our species' past.

Women's pendulous breasts, impossible-to-ignore cries of sexual delight, or "female copulatory vocalization" to the clipboard-carrying crowd, and capacity for multiple orgasms also validate this story of prehistoric promiscuity.

"But we're not apes!" some might insist. But we are, in fact. Homo sapiens is one of four African great apes, along with chimps, bonobos and gorillas.

"OK, but we have the power to choose how to live," comes the reply. This is true. Just as we can choose to be vegans, we can decide to lead sexually monogamous lives. But newlyweds would be wise to remember that just because you've chosen to be vegan, it's utterly natural to yearn for an occasional bacon cheeseburger. "


http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/27/ryan.promiscuity.normal/index.html?hpt=C2

[Edited on July 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM. Reason : wow that was more words than i thought]

7/29/2010 5:02:42 PM

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"WALL

OF

WORDS"

7/29/2010 5:03:00 PM

ambrosia1231
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Here we go again.

7/29/2010 5:03:56 PM

Slave Famous
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too sexy for monogamy

So sexy it bothers me

7/29/2010 5:04:17 PM

ThePeter
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After reading the first paragraph/sentence I thought it was another article about the priest gay sex scandal

7/29/2010 5:04:46 PM

bottombaby
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How many times do we have to go through this?

7/29/2010 5:05:31 PM

grimx
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til it hurts

7/29/2010 5:05:53 PM

LunaK
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7/29/2010 5:07:55 PM

qntmfred
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i too saw this on cnn

7/29/2010 5:08:05 PM

ambrosia1231
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"til it hurts"


Now this

...Hell, yes.

7/29/2010 5:10:52 PM

Metricula
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Testicles

7/29/2010 5:15:43 PM

vinylbandit
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[old]

and

[obvious]

7/29/2010 5:27:15 PM

LeonIsPro
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Yes, let us slowly decay morality...



It's all part of the plan

7/29/2010 5:29:18 PM

Nerdchick
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"The two primate species closest to us lend strong -- if blush-inducing -- support to this vision. Ovulating female chimps have intercourse dozens of times per day, with most or all of the willing males, and bonobos famously enjoy frequent group sex that leaves everyone relaxed and conflict-free."


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"Homo sapiens is one of four African great apes, along with chimps, bonobos and gorillas."


Aha! He describes chimps and bonobos but ignores the gorillas. Sure chimps are sex machines, but gorillas rarely have sex. A male gorilla lives with a harem of ladies so there's no competition. You can see it with ball size - chimps have massive balls while gorillas' are tiny. (humans are somewhere in the middle)

He also use boobs as irrefutable proof that humans are SEXY. But in other animals, inflated boobs indicate a nursing mother who's out of commission for sex. Humans are the only mammal where females retain boobs year round. We're also one of the few animals that has sex throughout the fertility cycle. Early humans could form better relationships with more sex. I'm not sure if that supports the monogamous or promiscuous theory though.

And most Western countries aren't truly monogamous anyway - one life partner is very rare. Most people have several sexual partners before settling down. The truth is that humans are somewhere between chimps and gorillas. IMO the evidence indicates that humans evolved with a sort of semi-monogamy. Just like now.

7/29/2010 5:51:29 PM

McDanger
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So switching from nomadic hunting/gathering to agriculture changed everything about human life except sexuality?

7/29/2010 5:54:03 PM

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