icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
More of what we already knew, this was taken today from a thread on InsideCarolina.com.
Quote : | " Posted: Today 9:41 AM Here's what I don't get about UNC academics Let me start off by saying I graduated from UNC in the late 80's. I took a number of classes where it was absolutely impossible to fail. That's why I don't get the need to cheat.
Most of the classes I took that were REALLY hard graded on a curve and the curve ranged from A to C-. There were NO D's and F's. I had a 58 average in a geography class that the professor made impossible to do well in and still got a C. I took at least 4 classes pass/fail that I didn't even show up for half the time. Heck, there was enough Drama classes at UNC then to keep a football player eliglble for 2 years...easy.
Most ALL of the football team could NEVER get into UNC on their own academic merit so I understand their not looking for a degree in Rocket Science. Most of the big time recruits don't care about school at all...it's just something they have to do in order to play football. Many will NEVER come close to a degree.
With that in mind all they have to do is jump around and pass a minimum number of classes to stay eligible. I had to take an African studies class and short of having to memorize every county in Africa, it was one of the easiest classes I ever took. There's an easy two years worth of classes to take in that subject so that shouldn't be too hard.
Lastly, as far as writing papers go, unless it was for an English class, most professors or better yet TA's could care less about what you write.....JUST PUT SOMETHING DOWN ON PAPER. Most papers I wrote were opinions. There was no right or wrong answer therefore no passing or failing based on content. If you turned it in you were going to pass....PERIOD.
I've always said I should write a book about how to graduate from UNC with minimal effort. If these football players can work around or avoid the hard classes there is absolutely no excuse to need to cheat or need a tutor for that matter to remain eligible to play if that's their intention. Save the tutors for the one's who really care about school." |
wtf8/27/2010 9:52:02 AM |
DROD900 All American 24653 Posts user info edit post |
haha great logic in that post
I absolutely love the meltdown going on over there 8/27/2010 9:54:25 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL 8/27/2010 9:54:37 AM |
qntmfred retired 40601 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I absolutely love the meltdown going on over there" |
8/27/2010 9:55:38 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Here's the real picture...UNC is one of the top 5 public schools in the country, along with UVA, Michigan, Cal and UCLA. They're proud of that, and they're going to take care of their own, to make sure they get the best jobs, and to make sure they're always seen as better than State and comparable to Duke and Wake. Grade Fixing has been going on for decades, and no one with UNC's best interests in their mind would ever take steps to prevent it. 8/27/2010 10:02:08 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
^
and
I swear they talk about grade fixing at every top school in the country. I remember hearing it all the time when I lived close to Yale.
[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 10:08 AM. Reason : x] 8/27/2010 10:07:46 AM |
JeffreyBSG All American 10165 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've always said I should write a book about how to graduate from UNC with minimal effort" |
hahahahahaha ]8/27/2010 10:50:38 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Many undergraduate "degrees" amount to over-expensive daycare. 8/27/2010 11:01:53 AM |
Snewf All American 63348 Posts user info edit post |
I strongly disagree
I think an education is primarily based on the effort an individual puts into it not on their area of study or even the institution where they studied
WORK IN KNOWLEDGE OUT 8/27/2010 11:08:55 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Most people don't care about education
They care about how much money that education will entitle them to earn
And in Carolina's case, its more than most 8/27/2010 11:10:23 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
8/27/2010 11:10:43 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Many undergraduate "degrees" amount to over-expensive daycare." |
Yeah that is prety much wrong. Maybe in joke fields like PRT, but not in engineering. I genuinely learned a ton while at State. There is no way I could do my job well now without things I learned in college.8/27/2010 11:14:22 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
ahahha, this is great.
and grade fixing is a big issue at many schools. it's no secret that the likes of harvard and yale do so; and it wouldn't surprise me if unc did it on a massive scale either. 8/27/2010 11:17:35 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most people don't care about education
They care about how much money that education will entitle them to earn" |
This. I sure as shit didn't kill myself going to grad school while working full-time to get more educated. I did it to make myself more attractive to big money jobs in the future. Period. End of story.
Sure there are idealist out there who genuinely want to be further educated, but I'm not one of them and I'm not in the minority.8/27/2010 11:23:30 AM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
^I think they go hand in hand
Im in grad school for chemistry cause i wanted to learn more, get my PhD and get paid more because of it. 8/27/2010 11:27:48 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "comparable to Duke and Wake" |
Quote : | "They care about how much money that education will entitle them to earn
And in Carolina's case, its more than most" |
Where's that link that shows State grads making more than UNC grads
[Edited on August 27, 2010 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ]8/27/2010 11:31:51 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
You're arguing that pursuing a higher education and a higher compensation are equal pursuits. Most people focus on learning on the the necessary skills for their desired profession. Very rare is the person who wants to learn something just for the sake of learning. 8/27/2010 11:32:50 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Well, the last US News & World Reports had UVa, Wake and UNC all ranked within five of each other. Obviously Duke will always be looked at as a better school than those. 8/27/2010 11:33:16 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Is that the one that used ratemyprofessor.com 8/27/2010 11:33:59 AM |
The5thsoth All American 4813 Posts user info edit post |
I thought that this was a joke thread.
Turns out I was correct. 8/27/2010 11:34:03 AM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most people focus on learning on the the necessary skills for their desired profession. Very rare is the person who wants to learn something just for the sake of learning. " |
You said it better than i did 8/27/2010 11:35:40 AM |
twoozles All American 20735 Posts user info edit post |
In reference to the original post - I'd say the same goes for just about any public university, NCSU included. 8/27/2010 4:44:16 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ce8f1ebffc/jimmy-v-says-hi
8/27/2010 6:44:24 PM |