I love watching undercover boss. CEOs that have no idea how the company works yet they take home all the money for "making the company work" aka not doing shit

9/19/2010 10:03:57 PM

Shut the fuck up.

9/19/2010 10:05:53 PM

you both are faggots

9/19/2010 10:07:29 PM

all three of you are bitches

9/19/2010 10:15:21 PM

foursome of fags

9/19/2010 10:16:13 PM

queer quintet

9/19/2010 10:17:59 PM

sextuplet of homos

[Edited on September 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM. Reason : slow]

9/19/2010 10:18:25 PM

smartass sextuplets and the retarded red-headed step-child who's always a step behind

[Edited on September 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM. Reason : "lol it's funny because he's got red hair" mr. chan]

9/19/2010 10:20:36 PM

clearly being the CEO of a major corporation requires no ability whatsoever.

Why don't you go be the CEO of something, then donate your huge salary to the bottom-tier workers or charity?

Oh that's right, because that's not the case at all, you don't know shit and don't have what it takes to do anything anywhere near that level.

Those who can, do. Those who can't...

9/19/2010 10:59:37 PM

sad how the world works huh?

9/19/2010 11:00:16 PM

^^The only CEOs I know are the ones on this show and none of them have any idea what goes on in the company. Either this show is fake, a misrepresentation, or CEOs aint shit.

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"clearly being the CEO of a major corporation requires no ability whatsoever."

This is common knowledge. Workers do the work. Managers run the branches, accountants keep up with financing, PR/marketing do the advertising etc etc. It takes about the same knowledge as it does to earn a high school diploma.

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"Oh that's right, because that's not the case at all, you don't know shit and don't have what it takes to do anything anywhere near that level. "

No, I don't have what it takes. (A. A shitload of money or B. A parent that owns a major corporation.)

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"Those who can, do. Those who can't..."

join the military

9/19/2010 11:45:32 PM

9/19/2010 11:46:46 PM

does this show focus on large corporations? (I bet it doesn't)

if were talking about smaller scale businesses with an acting CEO that might be the only c-level exec in the company then they probably don't make nearly as much money as you think they do

and I'm sure they work a lot harder than you think too

9/20/2010 12:26:04 AM

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"This is common knowledge. Workers do the work. Managers run the branches, accountants keep up with financing, PR/marketing do the advertising etc etc. It takes about the same knowledge as it does to earn a high school diploma. "

your folk wisdom here is pretty misguided but I understand it

top level execs frequently put in 60-80 hour work weeks
low level workers jobs tend to end when they clock out and go home

9/20/2010 12:28:26 AM

For every 60-80 hour work week there are probably 5 6-8 hour work weeks.

[Edited on September 20, 2010 at 12:34 AM. Reason : the ceos on the show are always shitfaced after working for 2 hours straight.]

9/20/2010 12:33:57 AM

so the show picks CEOs that will be provocative and reinforce viewers assumptions and expectations - no surprise there

my father is a corporate president (not a CEO) and he probably works 15-18 hour days 6 days a week - some days more and some days less but he's almost ALWAYS working; even when he's on vacation he's taking calls and he doesn't make gobs of cash either

what you've got to understand is all of the going out to dinner and playing golf and flying around and staying in hotels - THAT is work!
that's the job they've been hired to do

9/20/2010 12:41:43 AM

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"Either this show is fake, a misrepresentation, or CEOs aint shit. "

...a reality show misrepresenting reality?

Nope, that never happens. Impossible.

9/20/2010 12:45:30 AM

I really don't think mambagrl understands upper level business people

I mean these folks have like NO life outside of work and if they've got a spouse it is really tough for them because their SO isn't around and when s/he IS around s/he's thinking about work

if the CEOs aren't fully absorbed in their business I think there's a good chance the company will experience diminished profits, slowed growth and maybe even fail

and if THAT happens then all of the lower and mid level employees are out of work
so how important is leadership in a business again?

9/20/2010 12:51:48 AM

why do y'all take this troll seriously?

9/20/2010 12:52:44 AM

It appears that intelligence is inversely proportional to post count for mambagrl.

[Edited on September 20, 2010 at 12:53 AM. Reason : .]

9/20/2010 12:52:56 AM

cause it is fun

9/20/2010 12:53:01 AM

well, we certainly have different ideas of fun

9/20/2010 12:55:47 AM

yeah I think so

I'm not sure that I like fishing
and I think that you might not enjoy making small talk with strangers at a dinner party

different strokes

9/20/2010 12:58:53 AM

u rite

9/20/2010 1:00:01 AM

holy shit mambaman is dumb.

9/20/2010 9:35:12 AM

holy shit mambaman is dumb.

9/20/2010 10:30:39 AM

Dammit Duke- you ruined the number game!

9/20/2010 10:44:57 AM

Theres a huge difference between being the president of a small company or running a business as a sbo and being the ceo of a large corporation. The CEO is essentially like a king. The CEO of a major corporation doesn't even have to know how to do the things essential to the company. The CEO of a paper company could not know shit about trees.

9/20/2010 2:01:18 PM

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"The CEO is essentially like a king"

9/20/2010 2:06:43 PM

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"The CEO of a paper company could not know shit about trees."

Why would he need to? If he can get the paper to market at a lower price than the competition because he has a degree in business and decades of experience without a degree in forestry then everyone at the company is better off.

Of course, you also shit on people like Tony Hayward, who has a PhD in geology.

Basically you don't know shit and you make yourself look like an idiot when you post anything.

9/20/2010 2:08:27 PM

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"why do y'all take this troll seriously?"

9/20/2010 2:13:35 PM

fun and CEO level profit

9/20/2010 2:14:00 PM

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"THIS TROLL SERIOUSLY"

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"SHIT ON PEOPLE"

9/20/2010 2:16:03 PM

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"I really don't think mambagrl understands upper level business people"

Nope. She was probably raised in a union family or at least strongly democratic one.

9/20/2010 2:51:08 PM

my father converted to the democratic party in the mid 90s because of what he saw as exploitative business practices and the dangers posed to the public by the under-regulation of industry

industry, especially management, can't be relied upon to "do the right thing" all of the time so some regulation is necessary

9/20/2010 2:54:18 PM

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"MY FATHER CONVERTED"

9/20/2010 2:59:56 PM

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"what you've got to understand is all of the going out to dinner and playing golf and flying around and staying in hotels - THAT is work!"

file under "I can't believe they pay me for this shit!"

9/20/2010 3:44:59 PM

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"so some regulation is necessary"

I agree with this. However, to think the govt is 100% right/just all the time is equally naive as the private sector is right/just all the time. Its just when a company decides to fuck people over the numbers hurt are limited, when the govt decides its usually a whole lot more suffering.

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"work is inversely proportional to income "

Simple math. If you are paid 10 dollars a hour and work 1 hour, you have 10 dollars. Now if you work 2 hours you have 20 dollars. so yeah.

9/20/2010 3:47:48 PM

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"The only CEOs I know are the ones on this show and none of them have any idea what goes on in the company. Either this show is fake, a misrepresentation, or CEOs aint shit. "

Driving a car/running a business is different from being the car/being the business.

9/20/2010 3:54:46 PM

While mambaman is an idiot, and successful CEO's no doubt are very hard working:

http://video.aol.com/video/the-other-guys-end-credits/4186990498

9/20/2010 4:32:05 PM

do people really still think he's a girl?

9/20/2010 4:35:53 PM

mambagrl

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"The only CEOs I know are the ones on this show [and here are all of my assertions about CEOs because I'm a fucking moron who has no scope of knowledge beyond what I see on TV]"

9/20/2010 4:38:32 PM

^Thats where you're wrong. I had beliefs about CEO's for the longest time but had nothing to back it up. This show was my first insight onto the incompetence of actual CEO's and now I can voice my theory.

My father was a contractor but not like the corporation style contractors that simply provide all the money and hire contractors to hire subcontractors and hire specialized construction workers. My father was the type that hired workers and a few subcontractors for things like electrical and plumbing.

It was far from a union family. My mother's side is super conservative. My Father independent but his family is all immigrants.

Its funny because libertarians always say my philosophical belief set is actually a syndrome that stems from having too well of an upbringing.

9/20/2010 6:58:15 PM

Don't believe anything you see on TV.



If you want real life experience, ask for an educational experience in a letter to CEOs of your choice and spend a work week with them and see what they do.

9/20/2010 7:06:09 PM

CEO's manage people and revenue. CTO's manage the product.

They are entirely different and intentionally separated roles. Managing people well doesn't mean you can manage product well and vice versa.

It doesn't mean a CEO's job is easy or trivial, it means it requires a DIFFERENT skill set. There's a concept called specialization of labor that you may want to look up before you continue to put your foot in your mouth.

I love undercover boss too, I see it as a great opportunity for people (CEO's) to gain insight into skills and areas of the company that they may not be familiar with to be a better holistic leader. I don't know of ANY major CEO who could perform even a fraction of the job functions their employees carry out. They aren't paid to be a jack-of-all-trades, they're paid to keep the company operational and growing.

9/20/2010 7:08:50 PM

So you don't think they have accountants, marketing departments and asset managers doing anything for them?>

9/20/2010 7:14:15 PM

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"So you don't think they have accountants, marketing departments and asset managers doing anything for them?>"

Who watches them to make sure they're doing their jobs right?
Who replaces them when one is fired?
Who replaces them when one quits?
Who listens to internal complaints?
Who makes the final decisions?
Who fields all the questions?
Whose reputation is on the line if someone in the company fucks up?



[Edited on September 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/20/2010 7:20:27 PM

anyone that believes this is destined to fail

[Edited on September 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM. Reason : s]

9/20/2010 7:39:41 PM

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"Simple math. If you are paid 10 dollars a hour and work 1 hour, you have 10 dollars. Now if you work 2 hours you have 20 dollars. so yeah."

IMO there isn't an easy proportionality, especially if you replace "income" with pay rate; on the one hand your typical CEO works harder than your typical receptionist but on the other hand less hard than many of the folks highlighted on Dirty Jobs.

9/20/2010 7:39:50 PM

now we're talking about definitions of "hard work"

just because someone isn't wrist deep in shit doesn't mean their job isn't difficult

and most of those guys on Dirty Jobs get to call it a day and go home to their personal life
the average CEO has no personal life

9/20/2010 7:48:31 PM