Anyone have one? Thoughts?

10/16/2010 2:40:15 PM

Looks too much like the Insight to me. At least it opens up the rear wheel wells. I still don't like the back.

10/16/2010 3:08:41 PM

It's supposed to be a sporty hybrid. But it's not sporty and for a hybrid its fuel economy isn't much to talk about. It's a vehicle built for nobody.

It's no surprise that I haven't seen one on the road yet, despite it being available for sale for months now.

[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM. Reason : pos]

10/16/2010 5:00:58 PM

^ Agreed.

I think theyre really 'neat', and Id like it if a friend bought one so I could check it out. But. Why the hell would you buy one? If youre looking for something with good mileage in the low 20s, get a diesel golf or cooper. More seats, vw has a better interior, way more torque.

Its a 9-10 second 0-60 I believe, so youre not going to buy it for its performance. I suspect the only people who are going to buy it are those who want the 'true' hybrid image (read: uppity and obnoxious, read: not a fusion/civic hybrid) with a little panache.

10/16/2010 6:12:21 PM

It's a good looking car, but it looks like the "performance" is awful.


That's too bad.

[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 7:07 PM. Reason : 122hp? Nah son.]

10/16/2010 7:06:47 PM

low 20's???

10/16/2010 7:44:31 PM

With CVT
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City 35
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy 39

With Manual Trans.
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City 31
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy 37

By low 20's, you must have meant OTD pricing for a loaded CR-Z



[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 8:24 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2010 8:21:19 PM

saw one of these the other day on the road, i thought it was a nice nod to the old cr-x. it looks a bit sportier in person than in that picture. i doubt they will sell well, but looks like it would make for a good urban econo box. sporty handling and 0-60 times don't mean jackshit in stop and go traffic (atl rush hour ftl).

10/16/2010 8:24:10 PM

"The base CR-Z starts at $19,200 and can reach about $24,000 for the EX model with navigation and a CVT."

I dont think low 20s was a stretch was it?

10/16/2010 8:53:26 PM

^ I had interpretted your statment that Low 20's was referring to the mpg Your pricing statement is accurate, imo.

Quote :

"good mileage in the low 20s"

lol context is everything

[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2010 9:27:53 PM

id buy that shit in white with a k20 yesterday

10/16/2010 11:10:59 PM

^^ ha, no worries, now that I read the thread again it makes sense.

Back to the car. The interior looks rather cool from the shots Ive seen but I just couldnt justify buying a car with 2 seats that goes 0-60 in ~9 seconds.

10/16/2010 11:39:23 PM

Quote :

"It's no surprise that I haven't seen one on the road yet, despite it being available for sale for months now."

I saw a couple in hickory- it looks better in person than it does in print/on tv... but then again, that's not saying much

10/17/2010 9:14:18 AM

Diesel jettas are Way faster and get better mileage. It's a morons car.

10/17/2010 9:06:42 PM

yeah, this thing is less cool and useful than a crossover SUV

10/17/2010 11:59:14 PM

It's not a good looking car. IMO you can't call something good looking if it looks horrible in the side profile. Also hard to think something with and disproportionately large nose looks attractive.

10/18/2010 12:07:58 AM

Wow, that side profile really does make the huge beak evident. Almost looks like the front wheels should be farther forward than they are. Some good elements of the styling but it doesn't work as a whole.

10/18/2010 10:17:23 AM

Isn't the engine fully forward of the front wheels?

10/18/2010 4:06:18 PM

Yes, though it's that way for most FWD I4 vehicles. (my GS-R's engine is fully in front of the axle)

10/18/2010 4:15:25 PM

K20 PLEASE

I LOVE IT

10/18/2010 6:22:15 PM

Cool, they made a heavy Insight.

10/18/2010 7:00:14 PM

this thing gets about the same gas mileage as my dad's 11 year old corolla

10/18/2010 8:38:25 PM

Guise, how do you plan on arguing with Hondurrr's ENGINEERS???

Connection to CR-X:

Quote :

" The Japanese automaker claims the CR-Z will bring back the kind of driving joy that hasn't been felt since the CRX last left dealer lots in 1991, saying that owners will embrace this new mild hybrid with both their hearts and minds."

Rationale/purpose of car:

Quote :

""The CR-Z is a personal sport hybrid coupe for people with a spirit of adventure and an elevated sense of responsibility toward the environment," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "It's the first hybrid designed to maximize style and fun, in addition to efficiency and economy.""

Quote :

"The 3m 08s video features the car's chief chassis engineer, Terukazu Torikai, who says the CR-Z was created with the basic concept of "fun to drive." "Since the target of this car was to realise enhanced handling we put huge emphasis on the settings of the EPS [Electric Power Steering], and set body stiffness at a similar level to that of the Civic Type R, using the base frame of the Insight in order to gain predictable control," Torikai said. "I believe that the car provides exhilarating driving pleasure," he said."

Inspiration and benchmarks:

Quote :

"Video: Honda engineer talks CR-Z, says Lotus Elise was an influence What was Honda's mindset when it created the CR-Z? If you can believe the marketing frippery in the video after the jump, it's all about "fun-to-drive." According to Terukazu Torikai, the chief engineer for chassis dynamics on the CR-Z, Honda benchmarked several vehicles during the development of its new hatch, and not only was Mini mentioned a few times, Honda drove everything from the Volkswagen Scirocco to the Lotus Elise. Torikai goes on to say that "the performance of the Elise kept on inspiring us throughout the whole development process." That bodes well from both a handling and steering perspective, but we remain lukewarm on the prospects until we finally get a stint behind the wheel. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/19/video-honda-engineer-talks-cr-z-says-lotus-elise-was-an-influe/"

[Edited on October 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM. Reason : ]

10/18/2010 8:45:18 PM

^hmmm. That looks like proof that the spirit of Soichiro Honda is dead.

10/18/2010 10:09:50 PM

I'm really rooting for this thing to fail.

10/19/2010 1:02:41 AM

Quote :

"K20 PLEASE I LOVE IT"

This. Not interested in a heavy slow hybrid that gets crappy mileage, but love the look of it!

10/19/2010 11:29:34 AM

^

Agreed!!!

K20 + 6mt plz

10/19/2010 5:51:49 PM

Saw one today parked today in Philly's Chinatown. It's an okay looking car. Not good looking, but not ugly either.

10/23/2010 3:46:36 PM

yeah i like the look of it too but again give me hp and a sporty drive train.

10/24/2010 12:15:50 PM

Quote :

"Also hard to think something with and disproportionately large nose looks attractive. "

It's not nice to hate on your S2000

10/25/2010 4:39:04 PM

Nose being the part of a car in front of the wheels! I.e. overhang

10/25/2010 4:42:53 PM

k20 + 6mt plz

10/25/2010 5:53:18 PM

been out of honda engines for a while- whats the k20? is that the rsx-s engine?

10/25/2010 6:17:26 PM

Saw one in person today. Reminded me of an old CRX with a giant snout.

10/25/2010 6:34:55 PM

^^

yeah basically. the best motor they make IMO.

10/25/2010 8:03:11 PM

^nah man, that gotta be the B18C

10/26/2010 3:01:53 AM

d16z6

10/26/2010 6:05:15 PM

CR-Z Hybrid R with 200 hp for SEMA

This is what it should have been to begin with.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/02/sema-2010-2011-honda-cr-z-hybrid-r-is-a-step-in-the-right-direc/

11/2/2010 7:29:56 PM

add to cart

11/2/2010 7:46:27 PM

I saw a CR-Z on 14th street in DC over the weekend

11/2/2010 7:52:06 PM

^^^agreed.

I still haven't seen one on the streets. Surprise surprise.

11/2/2010 11:30:41 PM

Hopefully this thing will totally bomb and teach the automotive world a lesson.

11/2/2010 11:39:58 PM

are the CVT's that good these days? I drove one of the first out the gate in mass production (was it a Nissan?) and it was freaking TERRIBLE. Also, are they at least reliable?

11/3/2010 3:23:07 AM

i saw one when i was in switzerland

11/3/2010 10:15:58 AM

honda brings shit loads of customized cr-zs to sema:

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/sema-2010-custom-honda-cr-zs/full/

11/3/2010 10:31:56 AM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/32hondacr-zsema2010.jpg

ordered. ill let you know when it comes in

11/3/2010 12:00:02 PM

I finally saw one yesterday...




...on the showroom floor at Cary AutoPark Honda. So I still have yet to see one that someone has actually purchased. Anyway, I will agree that it is better looking in person. That's not to say it's a great looking car. I didn't give it a thorough once over, as I didn't want any salesmen to come harass me and spout off some nonsense about how this is Honda's new "sports" car.

11/16/2010 3:53:16 PM

Really? Regular ol' hood pins? I would have figured Aerocatch latches would have become the new standard these days I <3 my hood latches.

11/16/2010 4:01:24 PM

i've seen quite a few in fayetteville. pretty meh.

11/16/2010 4:33:11 PM

^

You should have waved!!! I didnt recognize ya

11/16/2010 4:59:46 PM