For the 1st time in a long time I'm more interested in the NBA over the NFL
with the Heat, Celtics, Lakers, and so many up and coming players, the NBA has been very exciting to watch

on the other hand the NFL seems to have lost a lot of its wow fact as players like manning, brady, thomlison, T.O. are aging and are there are not any new players that bring the same excitement

plus there are no major rivalries currently, cowboys suck, redskins suck, panthers suck
it all

11/12/2010 12:00:43 PM

NFL lost its wow cuz niggas cant bang no more

11/12/2010 12:01:28 PM

This is a stupid fucking thread, and the NBA is by far the most predictable of the major professional sports. I've seen Lakers/Celtics enough times that I'm thoroughly bored by it.

11/12/2010 12:08:10 PM

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"the NBA is by far the most predictable of the major professional sports"

Also, I'm not sure this shit will apply at all 60 games into the season...tl;dnw

11/12/2010 12:11:19 PM

^ its a lafta thread

11/12/2010 12:11:42 PM

95% of America is too stupid to follow anything but a short football season. Also gambling is easier on football. Anyway this thread sucks but I do agree with it. The NBA is as good as it has been since the 80s..

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM. Reason : Too stupid or too small an attention span]

11/12/2010 12:14:05 PM

Also I want to call out anyone who says college bball is better preemptively. That is saying you'd rather eat human feces over a filet... Man hugs, flood slaps and flops gets your ass kicked in the NBA and doesn't win you titles..

11/12/2010 12:17:18 PM

I prefer college basketball to the NBA. And I also like my feces served medium well.

BigHitSundayis the Jason Whitlock of TWW.

11/12/2010 12:24:24 PM

That sure is an opinion!

11/12/2010 12:24:51 PM

yeah the NBA is awesome! love the long season where sometimes vets just don't play...or maybe mail in a game in the middle of the season (or for a few playoff games if you're the MVP). I also love watching offenses that are 95% ISO and LOVE the fact there are illegal defensive schemes. it's only made better by the fact the two biggest stars are a rapist and a traitor. and the fact most fans can't be bothered to cheer unless prompted by a fucking organist/PA announcer just makes it fucking ELECTRIC!

the NBA can suck the fattest cock there is

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 12:29:57 PM

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"95% of America is too stupid to follow anything but a short football season."

Since when does it require intelligence to give a shit about a season that is about as long and drawn out as possible? I'm a huge NHL fan, but I'll never make the argument that the huge amount of games in a season somehow makes the sport better.

The NBA season is bloated, and most teams are irrelevant around the half-way or two thirds mark of the season. I'm not arguing that the NFL is infinitely better because it only has a handful of games (or that teams aren't equally irrelevant halfway into the short season), but you're a grade-A retard if you think that the average game of the NBA season has any of the significance that many NFL games do each week.

That said, there are definitely some interesting story lines going on in the NBA, but that doesn't make it any less predictable or ultimately boring.

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 12:31:16 PM

Haven't cared about NBA since early 90's

11/12/2010 12:34:55 PM

^^ that entire post makes my point regarding attention span. Each game isn't supposed to be do or die in these sports. The longe season accounts for anomalies (jets last year - and this is coming from a diehard jets fan).

In terms of the sport being boring, where is Ernie with his favorie stat about action in NFL games.

Anyway, these threads always turn out this way..

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 12:45 PM. Reason : Lol at goalielax. Traitor? Should they abolish free agency?]

11/12/2010 12:43:31 PM

its interesting to me that every person i've ever met in person that thinks the nba is more fun to watch than than ncaa basketball is from the northeast.

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM. Reason : e]

11/12/2010 12:45:43 PM

Not really. Just from pro sports towns. LA, Chicago, NYC, Boston, SF, etc..

11/12/2010 12:47:00 PM

^
So "Pro" team cities enjoy the NBA more than the NCAA? Nicely done.

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"Also I want to call out anyone who says college bball is better preemptively. That is saying you'd rather eat human feces over a filet... Man hugs, flood slaps and flops gets your ass kicked in the NBA and doesn't win you titles.."

Rawr! Pros are better players than amateurs! Rawr!

There is no right answer to what an individual person enjoys watching more.

11/12/2010 12:47:33 PM

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"fact as players like manning, brady, thomlison, T.O. are aging and are there are not any new players that bring the same excitement "

Philip Rivers trying to beat the NFL single season passing record
the comeback of Michael Vick
and if you think Tomlinson isn't exciting anymore? He's running like he was 5 years ago....

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"plus there are no major rivalries currently, cowboys suck, redskins suck, panthers suck"

KC v Oakland last weekend
Cowboys v Giants this sunday
Philly v Redskins this monday night

Lafta you MUST BE a pissed off Cowboys fan

11/12/2010 12:49:21 PM

Don't feed this troll.

God Bless the Shield.

11/12/2010 12:54:55 PM

NBA caters to the american instant gratification self oriented mentality. If basketball were more like
soccer where 30 minutes may go by without a goal being made, half the viewers would change the channel to put the Jersey Shore back on.
I could care less about watching 5 "pros" jogging down the court to make a half
hearted attempt to keep Lebron from dunking the ball.

College basketball is tolerable but NBA seems to half way to have involved into just as much
show as it is about watching play.

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"yeah the NBA is awesome! love the long season where sometimes vets just don't play...or maybe mail in a game in the middle of the season (or for a few playoff games if you're the MVP). I also love watching offenses that are 95% ISO and LOVE the fact there are illegal defensive schemes. it's only made better by the fact the two biggest stars are a rapist and a traitor. and the fact most fans can't be bothered to cheer unless prompted by a fucking organist/PA announcer just makes it fucking ELECTRIC! the NBA can suck the fattest cock there is "

haha awesome. goalielax sometimes it hard to remember to cheer when a basket is being scored every 30 seconds.

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"Lafta you MUST BE a pissed off Cowboys fan "

True

11/12/2010 12:58:38 PM

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11/12/2010 1:12:33 PM

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"the two biggest stars are a rapist and a traitor."

NFL > every other sport

and they have plenty of rapists of their own

sounds like somebody is mad their sport only televises games on Versus

11/12/2010 1:17:53 PM

The NBA isn't nearly as interesting as the college game.

As posted above, half the time I tune into a regular season NBA match up, the teams are half-assing like they really don't care. It also doesn't help the excitement of the games when there is ZERO palpable energy in the arena at most NBA games. Its all quiet and boring in there as people watch these overpaid, jaded, and bored athletes mail it in game after game until the playoffs.

In college you have bunches of meaningful conference games with ACTUAL rivalries that matter to the players and not just the fans; coupled with an exciting college atmosphere.

Plus, you have to feel a closer connection to your college sports team than some pro team filled with players that are basically mercenaries who care more about making money than winning.

/My Opinion

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 1:42 PM. Reason : Go Pack]

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 1:39:44 PM

This goalielax seems like a raging tool but he is right about the NBA.

11/12/2010 1:40:28 PM

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"I prefer college basketball to the NBA. And I also like my feces served medium well. BigHitSundayis the Jason Whitlock of TWW."

Thanks, i think Whitlock is one of the more level headed and truly forward thinking people in media

i dont know what this has to do with this thread, but i welcome the comparison!

11/12/2010 1:43:29 PM

It's really tough for any sport to surpass the NFL...especially this year with the parity. It's kinda ridiculous.

But I do love the NBA, and it's miles better than college basketball. You can put on pretty much any NBA game and watch greatness. In college, I only like to watch NC State play, an occasional ACC game (like to watch UNC lose and games that affect us), and the occasional game of top 25 opponents. The rest is garbage. The talent level and execution is so far below the NBA's that it's not even funny.

Overall, the NBA collectively has the best athletes in the world that possess amazing skills.

11/12/2010 1:45:23 PM

I actually kind of agree this year, and I'm by no means an NBA fan.

The NFL just hasn't grabbed me this year, due in large part to the Panthers/Chargers being horrible I guess

11/12/2010 1:48:30 PM

I just don't see how you can get excited about a league where the teams in the finals have all but been decided before the season even starts.

11/12/2010 1:58:38 PM

^some of the best years in NBA history have had the same rivalries year in and year out
Bulls 90's
Lakers/Celtics 80's
Celtics 60's

so the fact that we see the same group of guys battle it out every year trying to get revenge is pretty sweet

Seeing random teams end up in the finals is a lot of times a buzz kill
The more the same teams win the more history they build up and the more each championship means

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 2:06:01 PM

Quote :

"yeah the NBA is awesome! love the long season where sometimes vets just don't play...or maybe mail in a game in the middle of the season (or for a few playoff games if you're the MVP). I also love watching offenses that are 95% ISO and LOVE the fact there are illegal defensive schemes. it's only made better by the fact the two biggest stars are a rapist and a traitor. and the fact most fans can't be bothered to cheer unless prompted by a fucking organist/PA announcer just makes it fucking ELECTRIC! the NBA can suck the fattest cock there is"

11/12/2010 2:07:54 PM

^^That's retarded on a number of different levels. It basically renders the regular season utterly pointless and the playoffs entirely predictable. Why even watch if you know the outcome ahead of time?

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 2:08:19 PM

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"I just don't see how you can get excited about a league where the teams in the finals have all but been decided before the season even starts."

You mean when the Steelers and the Patriots won 5 super bowls in 8 years??

Or do you like seeing Florida/Alabama/Ohio State/Texas/Oklahoma in the BCS every year??

11/12/2010 2:11:22 PM

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" It basically renders the regular season utterly pointless and the playoffs entirely predictable. "

Having watched and played sports most of my life I can assure you that when a team separates itself and starts to dominate, you actually get a lot of interest in the game
either to see the team win or to see an upset

Either way people have fun watching it when its a David versus Goliath situtation

All you gotta do is ask when the golder years of baseball, football, basketball were and I'll bet you its not the times where there was parity

11/12/2010 2:17:22 PM

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"You mean when the Steelers and the Patriots won 5 super bowls in 8 years?? Or do you like seeing Florida/Alabama/Ohio State/Texas/Oklahoma in the BCS every year??"

Neither of those are comparable to the Spurs and Lakers winning 9 out of the last 12 NBA championships, but thanks for playing.

11/12/2010 2:23:53 PM

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"You mean when the Steelers and the Patriots won 5 super bowls in 8 years?? Or do you like seeing Florida/Alabama/Ohio State/Texas/Oklahoma in the BCS every year??"

I wouldnt be making that comparison when 2 teams have won 9 of the last 12 NBA Championships. The 2 decades before that werent exactly chocked full of parity either.

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ^ damnit]

11/12/2010 2:26:35 PM

^It's the same as knowing that a one-less SEC team is always going to be in the BCS. Or that an undefeated Ohio State in a shitty Big 10 will also go...or perhaps replace it with an undefeated or one loss Texas/Oklahoma.

At least in the NBA you could have someone like Wade carry your team all the way (against Dallas a few years back). Or a solid team with no superstars beat the Hall of Fame Lakers (Pistons).

Neither one can match the parity of the NFL however.

But the NBA is no different than college football.

11/12/2010 2:28:51 PM

Regardless of the BCS debacle, the conference championship races in college football are always more interesting,meaningful and exciting than the NBA regular season to me at least.

11/12/2010 2:38:21 PM

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"Also I want to call out anyone who says college bball is better preemptively."

what NyM is getting at, is that the quality of basketball in an NBA game is played at a much, much higher level than a college basketball game.

Regardless of which you might prefer to watch between NCAABB and NBA, there is no fucking denying that NBA basketball is the highest level of basketball in the world

Unless you'd rather watch a bunch of 6'1" white dudes shoot 32% from the field and win a game 54-52 and tout it as "college basketball players actually play defense"

i could go on and on, no need to though

11/12/2010 2:40:23 PM

Nailed it. If you want to say college bball has better atmosphere or better rivalries I'm fine with that... But don't feed me that style of play bullshit. Defense in the NBA is world class but offenses can simply beat them..

11/12/2010 2:48:00 PM

I don't think there's any doubt that the skill/talent level is significantly higher in the NBA, but for me what makes College Basketball significantly more exciting/watchable is the urgency with which the players play and the enthusiasm of the fans. I don't watch a TON of NBA but I can't remember seeing an NBA game in the past 5 years that even comes close to how exciting/nerve-wracking/intense some of the best college games are, like the triple overtime Texas/Oklahoma State game in 2007 or our game against UCONN in the NCAA tournament. Now to some degree I'm biased because I love my college teams more than probably 95% of NBA fans care about their teams but I think my point still stands.

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 2:55 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 2:51:08 PM

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"but for me what makes College Basketball significantly more exciting/watchable is the urgency with which the players play and the enthusiasm of the fans. I don't watch a TON of NBA but I can't remember seeing an NBA game in the past 5 years that even comes close to how exciting/nerve-wracking/intense some of the best college games are, like the triple overtime Texas/Oklahoma State game in 2007 or our game against UCONN in the NCAA tournament."

Your two examples were a tournament game and a 3OT game against two rivals.

Watch a close playoff game and the arena is absolutely nuts. Watch a Suns/Spurs, Lakers/Celtics, Heat/Magic game go into triple OT and you'll see much the same. Only difference being that there aren't any retarded 18/19 year olds sitting courtside.

Also, if the college basketball season were spread out over a longer period of time with 80+ games, it would be diluted a bit.

11/12/2010 3:00:13 PM

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"Also, if the college basketball season were spread out over a longer period of time with 80+ games, it would be diluted a bit."

So if you applied a poor aspect of one sport to another sport, that second sport would suffer? Interesting.

11/12/2010 3:03:56 PM

You can't deny that the skill level is higher in the NBA, but that actually is part of the problem. Because they are required to play man to man, teams can lean on their one or two superstars. And that's usually what happens. One guy is either posting up his man or trying to run of a screen, while the rest of the team is just standing around watching. In college there usually isn't that one dominant player, so it is required to be more of a team game.

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"Thanks, i think Whitlock is one of the more level headed and truly forward thinking people in media i dont know what this has to do with this thread, but i welcome the comparison!"

I meant it in only the most complimentary way. You earlier comment just reminded me of something Whitlock would post on twitter.

11/12/2010 3:06:53 PM

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"Your two examples were a tournament game and a 3OT game against two rivals."

I don't know that I would consider Texas and Oklahoma State rivals, and I don't see what your point is regardless of that.

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"Watch a close playoff game and the arena is absolutely nuts. Watch a Suns/Spurs, Lakers/Celtics, Heat/Magic game go into triple OT and you'll see much the same. Only difference being that there aren't any retarded 18/19 year olds sitting courtside."

I've watched plenty of playoff games (in fact that's the vast majority of the NBA games I watch), and the atmosphere isn't even close to as good. Also the retarded 18/19 year olds sitting courtside is part of what makes college ball great, because they are being loud and energetic as opposed to multi-millionaires or celebrities sitting there quietly twiddling their thumbs.

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"Also, if the college basketball season were spread out over a longer period of time with 80+ games, it would be diluted a bit"

No doubt about that, but that's an argument for shortening the NBA season NOT for the NBA being better than college basketball.

11/12/2010 3:09:35 PM

11/12/2010 3:10:37 PM

nothing

i mean nothing

is more interesting than the NFL

11/12/2010 3:14:37 PM

all this thread really does for me is make me sad that there is no playoff system in college football

11/12/2010 3:17:02 PM

Soccer is more interesting than American football

American football is for braindead faggots

11/12/2010 3:18:23 PM

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"I've watched plenty of playoff games (in fact that's the vast majority of the NBA games I watch), and the atmosphere isn't even close to as good."

I would put the crowds at the Thunder/Lakers (OKC home) playoff series last year and the Warriors/Mavs (golden state home) against any college basketball crowd...save maybe Cameron Indoor.

11/12/2010 3:25:42 PM

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"meaningful conference games with ACTUAL rivalries that matter to the players"

West Coast Versus East Coast negro!

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"the NBA collectively has the best athletes in the world"

What a crock of shit. There are undoubtedly some world elite athletes in the NBA but saying that the NBA is a concentration
of athletic talent compared to soccer and other worldly sports is Bullshit.

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"I just don't see how you can get excited about a league where the teams in the finals have all but been decided before the season even starts. "

Kinda sounds like the BCS College Football system.

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"with which the players play and the enthusiasm of the fans"

Exactly.

The last NBA game I choose to watch (not counting a game on in the background of some bar or someone's house i'm visiting
) I watched some gorilla named artest got angry, ran into the stands, and punched some fan in the face.

11/12/2010 4:25:11 PM

I call bullshit that you actually sat down and watched an entire regular season game between the Pacers and Pistons, which happened to end up in a brawl

Any motherfucker who would actually sit down and watch an entire Pacers Pistons regular season game is either:

1. A Pacers fan
2. A Pistons fan
3. Somebody who isn't gonna let a little fight ruin their whole perception of the sport

rawr rawr the last MLB game I chose to watch had a bench clearing brawl, fuck that sport, rawr rawr Roethlisberger raped multiple chicks, I refuse to watch the NFL, rawr rawr

RAWR RAWR SOCCER FANS MURDER PLAYERS AND REFEREES, RAWR RAWR

[Edited on November 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2010 4:48:17 PM