Just feels good to get that out there.

11/15/2010 1:47:36 AM

All righty.

11/15/2010 1:47:53 AM

Sounds like a ClassicMixup Catch 22!

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:49 AM. Reason : -]

11/15/2010 1:48:50 AM

be proud

now are you MTF or FTM? post-, pre-, or non-op?

11/15/2010 1:49:24 AM

MTF very early on

11/15/2010 1:49:54 AM

k.

11/15/2010 1:53:10 AM

gross.

11/15/2010 1:54:39 AM

yay. my first hater

11/15/2010 1:55:45 AM

won't be the last

you forget where you're posting

11/15/2010 1:56:29 AM

i doubt im the first. or last.

11/15/2010 1:56:38 AM

well I hope you pass

MTFs who don't pass get the brunt of the beatings and discrimination

unemployment in the transgender community is about 70%, I hope you're one of the fortunate few

I hope you end up more like Theresa Sparks and less like Angie Zapata or even the many trannies who turn to sex work as their only means of support

11/15/2010 1:57:12 AM

yes. i'm fully aware of all of these things and how much more difficult it might make life. but it's just something i have to do regardless. no one chooses to be this way. if they did, they'd be insane.

11/15/2010 1:59:59 AM

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 2:00 AM. Reason : just don't name yourself kitten!]

11/15/2010 2:00:16 AM

i feel like if this were legit, you would have posted it in the lounge not chit chat

just sayin

11/15/2010 2:03:25 AM

DDK says:

11/15/2010 2:05:18 AM

so, did you ever get around to joining the navy?

11/15/2010 2:06:10 AM

what a classic Catch 22


chit chat totally seems like the right venue for a serious discussion of a topic such as this

11/15/2010 2:06:36 AM

no one reads The Lounge though. its 2 am

11/15/2010 2:08:14 AM

this has to be a poor attempt at trolling.

11/15/2010 2:08:15 AM

^^ like i said.. its a classic Catch 22

11/15/2010 2:08:52 AM

i assure you i'm serious

11/15/2010 2:09:38 AM

pics or it didn't happen [no homo]

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 2:11 AM. Reason : actually nm on that I'll take your word for it ]

11/15/2010 2:10:29 AM

it didn't happen [yet]

i still like girls FWIW

11/15/2010 2:11:04 AM

...

11/15/2010 2:13:18 AM

It looks like Catch 22 tried to tell people this in the "LBGQTA ITT" thread on October 29, but everybody ignored it.

11/15/2010 2:16:12 AM

11/15/2010 2:17:51 AM

Everyone welcome here

(except maybe hipsters based on the number of threads devoted to opposing hispterism)

Quote :

"won't be the last [hater]"

No reason for haters at all IMO. No one is hurt or negatively effected. And one person is better off.

Here is the CommUNITY Alliance student group if you're looking for fellow NCSU students who might have shared experiences to talk to:
http://www.ncsu.edu/stud_affairs/glbt/aegis/index.php

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 2:19 AM. Reason : .]

11/15/2010 2:18:47 AM

indeed I noticed Catch 22 had said she was MTF in that thread

but this is a good thread to focus on her

and this might not be a troll thread just because this is Chit Chat, I mean I came out in Chit Chat

Quote :

"i still like girls FWIW"

this is an important point: "trans" is not the same as "super dee-duper gay"
and it's not unheard of for a straight man to become a translesbian

BTW I wonder whether qntmfred is willing to change the "Sex" in Catch 22's profile from M to F

11/15/2010 2:27:32 AM

Yes, everyone welcome here.

11/15/2010 2:28:38 AM

i just think chit chat is way more active than lounge. plus learning to take the good with the bad is something i will surely need to deal with in the near future. if i can't deal with it on the internet im going to have a hard time dealing with it IRL.

im not so different from everyone else. i just want to be judged on my merit as a person and not some label i happen to fall into

11/15/2010 2:32:18 AM

Quote :

"this has to be a poor attempt at trolling"

For what its worth, I don't believe this is a troll thread at all. Catch has chatted w/ me in pm a few months back about this. So unless she is running a long con, this is legit.

11/15/2010 2:34:40 AM

I am actually interested in how well the OP passes, but it's okay if she doesn't post pix; I mean I only posted one pic of myself on these Internets and took it down shortly thereafter, because I am embarrassed about how I look and I always think I look less attractive than other people tell me I look

11/15/2010 2:36:29 AM

to be honest, i dont really go out as a girl that often because it always feels fake and draggish and im not really a flamboyant person. but some of the few times i have been out people thought i was actually female. it helps that im not that tall or muscular or anything

11/15/2010 2:40:42 AM

it's good to avoid being too garish

btw idk whether you're Premium, but qntmfred, the owner of this place, is willing to change the Sex field on your profile from M to F; he just said so in the Chat, send him a PM if interested

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM. Reason : ^I wish I could pull it off, I'm not transgender but it would be fucking awesome to fuck with people]

11/15/2010 2:43:55 AM

i suppose. although it wouldnt be entirely truthful at this point

Quote :

"I wish I could pull it off, I'm not transgender but it would be fucking awesome to fuck with people"

LOL. indeed

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 2:46 AM. Reason : ]

11/15/2010 2:45:53 AM

oh ok

so like what did you do? I mean my biggest problems right now are my hair (I wish it were shoulder length but someone whose advice I can't ignore keeps insisting on shorter hair), my weight (BMI in the low "obese" range), my voice (then again I've never tried training on a consistent basis) and my height (5'10")

about the best I could pull off is aping Mrs. Doubtfire lol

11/15/2010 2:51:12 AM

thread is worthless without naked before and after pictures

11/15/2010 3:40:55 AM

^transmisogyny ITT

11/15/2010 3:43:15 AM

i keep telling you there is no after [yet]

trust me, you all will be the first to know

11/15/2010 3:51:18 AM

Oh so you are just mentally transitioning your gender. That's nice.

11/15/2010 3:53:59 AM

She is able to look the part IMO, but idk how she sounds so idk whether she could pass

much like with Supplanter she has talked about this via PM with me

because of my utter lack of shame there's a good chance if I cross-dressed I would actually post pix of it in public (especially if I thout I looked better than I normally do), but I have read on the Internets and in My Husband Betty that many a TG and CD is a bit more discreet about such things

11/15/2010 4:04:30 AM

^^ i guess it's good that you sort of get it

^ you got it for the most part. like i said, im not a flamboyant type of person and in circumstances like this discretion is my friend

11/15/2010 4:07:49 AM

I am also not flamboyant

then again swishing and prancing is difficult with a few dozen extra pounds

11/15/2010 4:27:50 AM

this is like my hero

http://www.youtube.com/user/minorqback

the way she has been able to incorporate parts of her former self into the person she is now is something i really admire

^ prancing may be harder, but swishing seems like it would be easier

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:35 AM. Reason : ]

11/15/2010 4:34:40 AM

So, to clarify for my own curiosity, you were born a physical male that otherwise identifies as a woman and are attracted to women? If so, I'm quite intrigued. Well I am in any case but especially in that one.

11/15/2010 4:37:19 AM

yes, that is correct

basically... gender =/= sexual orientation

or physical sex =/= sexuality

pretty much none of those things equal each other

11/15/2010 4:40:02 AM

So would it be a gross oversimplification to reduce your sexuality to "lesbian in the body of a male?"

Forgive me for my boorish nature

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:46 AM. Reason : r]

11/15/2010 4:43:15 AM

If you could change society, instead of changing yourself, how would you change it?

11/15/2010 4:48:08 AM

^^"lesbian trapped in a man's body" is usually a boorish comedy punchline but it describes pre-op translesbians well

11/15/2010 4:56:50 AM

set em up

11/15/2010 4:59:29 AM