There's been some more pronounced resistance to new measures by the TSA for using body scanners that reveal basically a naked image of whoever is being scanned. And if you opt out of the scanner, you get a full body patdown. The whole thing is obviously irritating and invasive, but i understand the TSA is just trying to cover their own asses. and while the effectiveness vs burden of these measures is questionable, i'm not personally going to fault TSA employees for doing their job.

Anybody had to go through one of these yet? My family is flying in a few weeks and I'm pondering which route to take. Especially for punchmonk since she's pregnant. i'm not familiar with the safety record of these things, but it is a concern i suppose

11/15/2010 12:07:06 PM

want to see the look on their faces when they find out i have two dicks

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11/15/2010 12:10:06 PM

I think I'd rather someone see a brief, semi-distorted image of my naked ass than run their hands all over me and my downtown bonanza.

Either way, I doubt either route is a prolonged process.

11/15/2010 12:10:29 PM

The Drudge Report's been going crazy about it; it's his new outrage du jour.

Here's a fun story to contribute:

http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

11/15/2010 12:10:48 PM

So, here's a list of the airports with the full body scanners:

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" Albuquerque International Airport (ABQ) · Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport (ATL) · Baltimore-Washington International (BWI) · Boise Airport (BOI) · Boston-Logan International (BOS) · Brownsville-South Padre Island Airport (BRO) · Buffalo-Niagara International (BUF) · Charlotte Douglas International (CLT) · Chicago-O'Hare Airport (ORD) · Columbus International Airport (CMH) · Corpus Christi International Airport (CRP) · Dallas/Ft. Worth Airport (DFW) · Denver International Airport (DEN) · Detroit Metro Wayne County Airport (DTW) · Harrisburg International Airport (HIA) · Indianapolis International Airport (IND) · Jacksonville International Airport (JAX) · Laredo International Airport (LRD) · Las Vegas-McCarran Airport (LAS) · Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) · McAllen-Miller International Airport (MFE) · Memphis International Airport (MEM) · Miami International Airport (MIA) · Milwaukee Mitchell Airport (MKE) · Nashville International AIrport (BNA) · Phoenix Sky Harbor (PHX) · Pittsburgh International Airport (PIT) · Providence-T.F. Green International (PVD) · Raleigh-Durham International Airport (RDU) · Richmond International Airport (RIC) · Rochester International Airport (RST) · Salt Lake City International Airport (SLC) · San Diego International Airport (SAN) · San Francisco International Airport (SFO) · Tampa International Airport (TPA) · Tulsa International Airport (TUL) · Valley International Airport (HRL) · Washington DC's Reagan Airport (DCA)"

There is a definite health concern with these scanners. I even know quite a few people in this area that refuse to go to Reagan or BWI.... instead, they go to Dulles to avoid these scanners

11/15/2010 12:12:49 PM

Haven't been through one yet, but if I ever fly again I am sure it'll come up (as Newark is my closest airport). I am fairly certain I will just refuse the scan and get a pat down- seeing as I have gotten patted down every time I have flown in the past two years anyway.

It's not like these scanners are going to make a difference anyway. They can invade peoples privacy all they want, but I still feel like it's a coin-toss every time I set foot in an airport. I don't feel that the "well-trained" TSA folks are likely to keep any of us out of danger.


edit: Damn, I thought Newark was on the list to be one of the first with them Good to know they don't have em yet. (not like I can afford to fly anyway.)

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM. Reason : list of airports]

11/15/2010 12:12:58 PM

FYI flying in general has increased radiation due to less atmosphere above the plane to filter it.

11/15/2010 12:16:07 PM

I went through one, I forget which city.

I didnt care at the time and still dont care...its for my own safety...Theres been a many people to see me naked, whats one more?

no big deal if you ask me.

11/15/2010 12:16:34 PM

Yup, I did it on my last flight.

Fuck TSA, and fuck all the silly ass Americans who continue to vote for politicians who think that TSA, the PATRIOT act, etc. are a good idea.

11/15/2010 12:17:59 PM

I actually did a paper on this for my National Security Law class. I think my biggest problem with the full body scanners is not that they have them--but that there's not a good system for saving/destroying images. The machines actually do have the capacity to store the scans, and they have been stored in several instances. There is not a system in place to determine which images to store and which to delete immediately, and with the education level of the TSA employees, it's ridiculous to leave something like that up to them. They end up printing out people's images and either poking fun at body parts, or asking celebrity's for autographs. I really believe it's an unconstitutional search and seizure, but the court's will probably say that it's implied consent, since you don't *have* to fly. But really, not flying is a limit on the right to travel, which should weigh against a finding of "constitutional." It'll be interesting how this plays out.

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"its for my own safety"

I think this is something I have a problem with. As a whole, the measures taken at airports are ineffective and have little impact on your safety. There are so many ways to get around the security measures, especially when "TSA Guidelines" are so readily available online.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2010 12:30:37 PM

I fly every week. They are at RDU and 10 total will be soon. You always have to go through one. It seems random, sometimes I have to go into the body scanner and sometimes I get to go through the regular metal detector. The TSA agenst who "know" me sometimes have me go throguht the metal detector. In other cities is not so easy. Last week in Wichita I experienced TSA's new pat-down procedures, they dont habe the body scanners. Needless to say it was very rough and invasive.

The body scanners take a little longer and you can not have anything in your pockets, paper, id etc.

They make you empty pockets of all items, not just metal.
After you exit the scanner, you need to wait in front until they "all clear" is given. Take about three times as long as walking through the regualr metal detector.

11/15/2010 12:37:09 PM

drive to boston!

11/15/2010 12:41:16 PM

I've heard the new pat down is absolutely humiliating and degrading. I too am interested to see how this works out.

11/15/2010 12:41:59 PM

Yeah i'd rather not get my balls touched and get blown up over the ocean

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11/15/2010 12:45:17 PM

The two are not even loosely connected.

TSA is there to provide a feeling of security, not actual security. You're more likely to be killed by a bee than a terrorist.

11/15/2010 12:50:14 PM

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"Yeah i'd rather not get my balls touched and get blown up over the ocean"

11/15/2010 12:55:48 PM

im totally gonna get more laid when the ladies see my horsedick on the screen

i cant wait.

11/15/2010 12:59:07 PM

Anybody else here planning on resisting this bullshit?

11/15/2010 1:11:58 PM

If I fly again, I'll opt for a pat-down instead of body scan. Also, I'll have to figure out a way to conceal my deadly plastic spork, rat basturds keep taking it.

11/15/2010 1:15:27 PM

I would not go through these scanners and am glad people are actively speaking out against them. They're ridiculous imo.

I wish we had these bad boys running from Atlanta to NYC. I'd never bother flying again.

11/15/2010 1:16:17 PM

FIGHT THE POWER

11/15/2010 1:16:26 PM

I was thinking of opting out every time I fly (and someone on WRAL suggested a national Opt-Out day), but some of the reviews of the new pat down make me cringe. The only person allowed to touch my crotch is my husband. So, I think my end result is just driving instead of flying.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2010 1:17:13 PM

^^ There wouldn't be any difference. Frankly, we're one attempted Amtrak bombing from having TSA at every public bus and train terminal in the country.

11/15/2010 1:18:26 PM

then walk

11/15/2010 1:18:27 PM

It might be interesting to make someone pat me down while I have a raging boner. Afterwards, I would whisper to them....you're welcome

11/15/2010 1:19:34 PM

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"I think I'd rather someone see a brief, semi-distorted image of my naked ass than run their hands all over me and my downtown bonanza."

11/15/2010 1:20:08 PM

I especially like the fact that the new body scanners are completely useless for detecting anything inside the body, so just wait for somebody to try to sneak C4 onto a plane by hiding it in their ass or swallowing it. Mandatory cavity searches for everyone!

11/15/2010 1:20:39 PM

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"There wouldn't be any difference. Frankly, we're one attempted Amtrak bombing from having TSA at every public bus and train terminal in the country."

True but until that happens I'd rather take a train than deal with airports. Too bad our long distance train system sucks in this country

11/15/2010 1:21:28 PM

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"FIGHT THE POWER"

You're the last person I expected to line up behind gubbament power, but so long as it's designed to catch Arabs i guess

11/15/2010 1:21:53 PM

^^^And they have a hard time detecting things behind the body as well. So, if you aren't made to turn 360* they're completely ineffective. But then again, the metal detectors don't pick up every trace of metal either, it's only designed to alert on something the size of a knife or larger.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:22 PM. Reason : ^^^]

11/15/2010 1:22:29 PM

^^^^so you want them to do that too?

because im sure they will.

so if they are gonna trample some of your "rights" the might as well trample all of them and leave you cowering naked in the corner

coo.

^^i just dont want no drama on my flight, and id rather everybody get felt up than have people be "randomly" selected for searches

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM. Reason : d]

11/15/2010 1:22:34 PM

So this will cut down on the racial profiling, yeah?

I'm a little more concerned about the health affects...also, has anyone seen what the pictures look like?

11/15/2010 1:25:25 PM

oh man, i didn't even think about trains. i wonder if it's too late to cancel my plane tickets

11/15/2010 1:25:28 PM

Maybe you're comfortable engaging in heavy petting with TSA goons, but not everybody is.

11/15/2010 1:25:52 PM

I won't be satisfied until I can get a free prostate exam with a business class ticket.

11/15/2010 1:26:22 PM

^^^ Where you guys heading?

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM. Reason : a]

11/15/2010 1:26:50 PM

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"has anyone seen what the pictures look like?"

They're all over the internet, just do a quick google search.



May damage DNA: http://www.infowars.com/full-body-scanners-used-on-air-passengers-may-damage-human-dna/

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2010 1:27:24 PM

11/15/2010 1:29:12 PM

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"I'm a little more concerned about the health affects...also, has anyone seen what the pictures look like? "

yea no kidding, thats why I hope the fatties opt for the full body search

^^haha marilyn manson?

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"Maybe you're comfortable engaging in heavy petting with TSA goons, but not everybody is."

i doubt there anymore happy about performing this than you are. I prefer to be professional and...stay classy about things.

ces't la vie

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM. Reason : j]

11/15/2010 1:29:44 PM

we're heading to boston to see omgyouresexy and MrsCake

oh yeah, and halfqntmsentirefamily

11/15/2010 1:30:27 PM

ew i hate small boobs that hang to the side at a 45 degree angle

11/15/2010 1:32:25 PM

funny thing is....


about 1.5 years ago, we had one of these scanners at work. After messing around with the thing for a few hours, my buddies and I thought it was cool as shit. But we also agreed that this would NEVER be used in the airport because of privacy concerns.

11/15/2010 1:33:20 PM

yeah, those scans are pretty revealing.

11/15/2010 1:33:49 PM

I ride around Houston with dat plaaaaastic

11/15/2010 1:35:22 PM

Those are completely normal looking boobs, BHS.

11/15/2010 1:35:45 PM

omg. this blows for the holidays choices choices i need more info on the pat down.

11/15/2010 1:37:06 PM

like hell

i been lucky then

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:37 PM. Reason : h]

11/15/2010 1:37:11 PM

^It looks like the weirdness is just from the pose she's standing in. I seriously doubt they go like that all the time.

11/15/2010 1:38:38 PM

im gonna facebook her and ask


i like how you can tell the pussy aint fat too

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 1:39 PM. Reason : f]

11/15/2010 1:39:05 PM

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"omg. this blows for the holidays choices choices i need more info on the pat down."

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"The TSA memo instructs the gropers to continue up the inside of the thigh until they "meet resistance" (genitals). This touch is used on the entire body and not with the backs of their hands as previously."

11/15/2010 1:39:09 PM